Mellencamp vs Springsteen
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Topic: Mellencamp vs Springsteen
Posted By: WaywardSon
Subject: Mellencamp vs Springsteen
Date Posted: July 21 2006 at 17:54
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Before anyone jumps on this thread saying they are both Hillbillys or Rednecks, I have to tell you that you are dead wrong (Read some of the lyrics)
Anyway my vote goes to Mellencamp, his albums "The Lonesome Jubilee" and "Scarecrow" contain some brilliant song writing. Many people think of him as the guy who did "Jack and Diane" or "Hurts so good", but if you listen to some of the stuff he was doing in the late eighties and nineties itīs a far cry from that.
Actually when I was a teenager I thought Mellencamp was not only a great song writer but was the epitome of the cool American!
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 21 2006 at 21:38
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Hillbilly's and rednecks?Springsteen is from friggin New Jersey!!!!!!!!!
Both are very talented songwriters and musicians,and I enjoy their music but I have to go with The Boss.We saw him live on his Born in the USA tour and he just tore the stage up...for 4 hours.Plus the E Street Band are a very talented bunch of musicians. -------------  |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 01:28
both not songwriters I like. their music is way too mainstream.
mitigating circumstances for Springsteen, because he is a fan of Peter
Hammill 
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 02:32
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The Progtologist said-" Both are very talented songwriters and musicians"
springsteen is a tuneless, talentless hack with a Dylan obsession. Only his ability too wave the American
 flag has kept him going. If springsteen COULD SING, WRITE MUSIC, or PLAY GUITAR, perhaps we would take him more seriously. His blazoned performences do not fool real music fans, only propel them. There is a very fine line between popularity and quality." Springy" likes to play this ground. Mellencamp is genuine, but insipid. His flag waving is from the heart redneck. Mellencamp is country gone pop - perhaps the first. Bush voters aside. I wouldn't give Mellencamp much room. ------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan ringed by ants and musing over man. |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 03:17
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Springsteen any day of the year, moth or day. He is, in my opinion the best American rocker ever. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 04:56
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Although Mellencamp is a Springsteen inspired artist , I like his stuff better overall. Voice and arrangement -wise >>> Scarecrow was simply excellent andbetter than any Sprindsteen album
On the pure songwriting , Springsteen might be better >> his songs have may times reatrranged succesfully >> none the least by Manfred Mann's earth Band ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 06:32
Completely disagree, I have Springsteenīs album "Tunnel of Love" and there is some great song writing on there. Also, why bring Bush into the discussion? Mellencamp isnīt a Bush supporter, Reagan may have used "Pink Houses" for his campaign but that doesnīt make Mellencamp a Bush supporter.
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Witchwoodhermit wrote:Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 07:13
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 07:36
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No-one can say springsteen can't write if they ever heard Born to Run. It simply makes you want to jump in the car and just drive 'til you get close to the edge of the world (nice one..), haha... |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 07:37
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Bruce Springsteen!
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Posted By: Thyme Traveler
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 19:49
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What was the question ? Who is the most annoying ? Can we add Don Henley to the list of choices and then I'll vote all of the above ! ------------- Fire up the flux capacitor ! We're taking this Delorean through all four dimensions. What is the future of prog ? Genesis reunion ? I'm not telling!That could upset the thyme/space continuum. |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 19:54
If I said what I really thought, I'm afraid I'd make too many enemies .------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2006 at 19:56
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Springsteen - fraud Mellencamp - the real deal ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: July 24 2006 at 01:09
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Mellancamp. Springsteen is overrated and pretentious, and recently too political for my tastes. |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: July 24 2006 at 01:13
^I would give that too Frank Zappa, The Doors, Allman Brothers, Nirvana, Tom Petty, Aerosmith, Guns and Roses, Mr Bungle. Those bands merit the award for best American rock outfit/rocker more than Bruce Springteen.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 11:34
| Bruce Springsteen by far. |
Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:53
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:31
Really?? Come on out, all you Hammill fans! It shows Springsteen has some hidden depths
 I have albums of neither of them (Mellencamp / Springsteen), and I can't judge Mellencamp on the hit singles I know, but I listened to some Springsteen music, also other stuff than the hits, and I think Springsteen is very talented indeed, both in writing melodies as well as in writing very poetic lyrics. I also went to one of his concerts, and I must say: it was the liveliest concert I ever saw.
They're both a bit outside my musical spectre, but I admire Springsteen for his talent and his stage presence. And since tonight... for his taste
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 17:40
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So, you're actually discussing if syphilis is preferable to leprosy? -------------  
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 17:45
Grow up.
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 07:42
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 10:06
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 10:31
Well... I'm not really keen on either (I suppose I'm too European for that...  ), but I would not compare either to syphilis or leprosy. I wouldn't do that even if DT were in question.... |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:00
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Springsteen continues to push himself to grow as an artist and musician. His lyrics on "The Ghost of Tom Joad" are some of the most poignant and heart-wrenching ever created and his storytelling ability is abundantly masterful throughout his catalogue of work. He is unique in every sense of the word. Mellencamp has created some memorable tunes in his day but he has long since ceased to be an evolving artist of note in the USA. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 00:38
Absolute rubbish! Sorry, but one has to see this man in concert. If you have ever experienced a live Springsteen show, no way could these words ever be honestly uttered. I saw him on the Born In The USA tour and the man leaves it all out on the stage. Besides, anybody who can pen a song as brilliant as "Born To Run" is anything but a talentless hack. That's like saying Michael Jordan was a mediocre basketball player. E ------------- 
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Posted By: Rushman
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 11:19
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It's a shame so many eyes have been blinded by their prog-snobbery, should have expected it on this site.
I'd have to side with The Boss on this one, especially his 70s output. I've seen him multiple times, and he puts on a hell of a show. I don't care for his politics either, but the music and lyrics are top notch. Not everything has to be in 11/8 time with virtuoso playing ability and sci-fi related lyrics.
It's straight ahead rock-n-roll, but good straight ahead rock-n-roll.
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Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 13:15
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I don't like either, but Springsteen annoys me more, so I guess Mellencamp. ------------- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- Evelyn Beatrice Hall |
Posted By: gong
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 13:20
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BORN TO RUN |