Out Of Focus
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Topic: Out Of Focus
Posted By: avestin
Subject: Out Of Focus
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:04
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Out Of Focus Munich originating band. Do you like this early 70's sound with the jazz rock influences? Althuogh the vocals are not the strong side of this band, to say the least, their music more than makes up for it. I was listening to their albums yesterday and though why not make a mention of them in a thread, but since I already recommended them in the I Recommend thread, why not make a poll that for a change will not invlolve a certain prog-metal band.... So for those who know and love them, which album is your personal favourite? which one makes you lean back with satisfaction and help you escape from everyday hassle? I really like Wake Up (which was my second album by them), with its raw sound and weird lyrics like God save the queen cried Jesus and See how a white negro flies. But I find the s/t album to be even better and Four letter Monday Afternoon really shines. I have yet to hear the other two, thuogh. Those who know me, know I am not a person who likes choosing and voting, but in this case I can make an non-obligating choice. Four Letter Monday Afternoon Go here for more info on this band: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1082 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1082 ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:10
I'm listening to their self titled album at the momment  I love this band. I have their first 2 albums and these guys can rock and jazz even at the same time! Every time I hear those 2 albums I become more and more convinced that they really need to bet more attention. Hopefully this poll would do it. Oh yeah, my favorite from the 2 I've listened is definetly their Self titled album. One of my favorite bands at the momment.  Hightly recommended! ------------- 
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:14
I have gotten around to listening to their first three albums, finally gave their first two a proper listen. But I would have to agree that Four Letter Monday afternoon is the most complete and satisfying release. But my opinion may change with furher listens. Also I have no squabbles with the vocals I actually quite enjoy them  they are not stunning in any way but I find them pleasent.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:15
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Hey Chamberry, I knew you'd come  EDIT: I suspected you'd pop in as well, Adam ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:27
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Who can miss a poll about a tremendous band? I know I can't. Special thanks goes to Visitor13 for getting me into the band -------------
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:33
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Oh, yeah, thanks to glass house (Tony) for introducing me to Out Of Focus. Tony, come on in here. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:40
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Can you think of some similar bands to OOF? bands that someone that likes OOF will like as well?
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:44
| The first band that comes to mind is the German band Dennis. There is a bit of a difference but I couldn't help but recommend this fantastic band since we are talking about German fusion. I think it is the incorparation of the flutes which made me think of them. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:46
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Never heard of them. And they are not in PA. You need to suggest them in the New bands suggestion section
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:50
Yes I will do sometime, they are somewhat of Krautrock (jazz-fusion) supergroup consisting members from Tomorrow's Gift, Thirsty Moon, Kravetz and Xhol. Very good I can recommend them to anyone. Unforunately there seems to a lot of bands from the German underground forgotten about 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:52
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Yeah. Some collabs and members are trying to rectify this situation. From the bands mentioned, I only heard Xhol (Xhol Caravan right?) and heard of Thirsty Moon. Xhol Caravan as I remember was more leaning towards psych but had their share of fusion. What are the others like? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:02
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Unforunately the only one I am confident with at the moment is Xhol (which yes is Xhol Caravan), so I will not comment on the others but you will find Thirsty Moon and Tomorrows Gift on the archive here: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1039 - www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1039 http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1085 - www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1085 I rather enjoy Xhol music, my favourite being there last offering Motherf**kers G.M.B.H & Co. KG which has a very Krautrock/bluesy sound to it. There other albums tend towards the Jazzy side with touches of psych (as you said) and I find less joy in these albums. Yes I know Philippe is working on this and I hope to be able to of help in this department as well. I'm happy to now see both Metabolismus and Zweistein on here. So there is progress being made. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:02
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Krautrock supergroup? Nice Are there any site that you know of that has samples of that band? -------------
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:05
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Do you know where we can find a bio for Tomorrows Gift? I hate to see a band without a bio.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:14
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Assaf I can put something together later on today? I know a little bit of history behind the band from doing some research. Chamberry, I don't know of any sample as such.. well in the legitimiate view of things 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:17
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The only Xhol I heard is Electrip for which I wrote a review, althuogh I am not too proud of it: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=76944 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=76944 ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:18
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Black Velvet wrote:Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:23
I see what you mean...-------------
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:26
Could you send me a PM concerning you policy against illegitimate sources of sample? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:28
| Ok this information might be a little more helpful. I just rember jean-jacques Kravetz (one of people in Dennis) would happen to be the Keyboardish for Frumpy - All Will Be Changed (1970). This should be something a little more farmilar with. He was also one of the musicians on the famous '8 Days in April - The Hamburg Scene' album alongside Inga Rumpf who if I remember correctly is the singer for that Frumpy album. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:30
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Frumpy, yes that is more familiar and even in PA: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2432 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2432 ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:35
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What do you think of Annexus Quam? I am currently listening to Osmose, which is a very nice psych and spacey like, somewhat stoned music, krautrock and very fitting my mood right now. How is their other one ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5702 - Beziehungen ? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 22:45
| I like them, but I have not grown a love for the band a this stage. As you said it is a nice album to relax to. But I really need to give it a little more attention. With regards to Beziehungen, I have been trying to find this for a while now. It defintately seems to be the hard to find of the two and also the harder listen. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:01
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Annexus Quam's Osmose is one of a handful of truly great Krautrock classics, notice the year of recording, pretty early on! If one likes OOF one might look to Agitation Free, Guru Guru, Jane, Dzyan, Aera, Missus Beastly, Secret Oyster, Thirsty Moon, Embryo and Burnin Red Ivanhoe, maybe Supersister, Wigwam or Krokodil, too! |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:07
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Hey Bryan, nice to see you.
Of your list I know and heard all but Thirsty moon, which we mentioned earlier here and Burnin Red Ivanhoe - What is it like?
Oh, yeah, how could I have forgotten one of my favourite bands Krokodil, which I hope to add here soon?
A more bluesy type of band, but still very much in the psych field. Their album "An Invisible world revealed will be a revelation to anyone who likes this type of music (and if we mention Revelation, we msut also mention Virus who I hope Sean and I will add next week).
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:14
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Burning Red is the same band as Secret Oyster but earlier in the 70's alittle rougher around the edges and standard fare, guitar, sax, keys. If you are not familar with Secret Oyster Straight to the Krankenhaus is a masterpiece and Thirsty Moon are comparable with them or Missus Beastly or maybe Embryo, Aera or Munju. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:17
Aera . I've heard Humanum est this week and I found it a pretty good album. It does share some similarities with Out of focus. I remembered listening to one song of Humanum est and found similarities with Fly bird fly pt.2, but that doesn't mean is bad nor a copy.Also, I agree completly with what DallasBryan said about Annexus Quam. -------------
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:35
 to both of those bands. I knew Virus was going to be added. But I sort of just assumed Krokodil was on here, so I didn't know they were missing. I have An Invisible World Revealed, which I have been very pleased with.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 03:11
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Now Tomorrow's Gift has a bio:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1085 - www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1085
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 07:04
Well it looks like my lobbying to mailto:M@X - M@X for inclusion of Out Of Focus is finally paying up.
The second album for me
 Assaf, Never Too Late is just as worthy of the other three albums (it was thei better-late-than-never released fourth album from 74)
Rats Roads is just leftovers from Four Letters: not quite as essential
Their eyboardist left to form another excellent band: Sahara  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 09:04
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Munchen and Kobenhavn both had great sax-driven bands in the 70s, surpassing almost any sax work from Canterbury or Paris. Its influences spilt over to adjacent areas Black Forest, Franconia, Austria, Swiss, Alsace, Hamburg, Sweden and Finland. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 10:51
Sahara?
The band who released For All The Clowns in 1975?
I wasn't aware of the connection.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 15:41
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I have all but Rat Roads, and after serious consideration I voted for Monday Afternoon. However all 4 are of highest musical qualities, and there is not much difference in musical standards between them, as one might mistakenly think looking at the poll results.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 19:03
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I was pleased to find (and purchase) Wake Up! re-released by Second Life Records. Too bad there is no booklet and scarce information in it. But at least the quality is good enough for me. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 04:20
Henner Hering is the keyboard player in both bands
 Sunrise is their better album if you ask me, but I am generally in a minority in this regard
Could you see that Subject Esq album appears first in the database? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 04:21
How come there are so many people knowing of this great band and so few reviews??? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 07:26
Some people can only read and cannot write, it's sad but still better than vise versa
 .Seriously, 1 or 2 good reviews from reliable source will do better than 100 from passers-by IMO.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 07:56
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Don't worry Sean. I'm planning to in the near future. I smell a 5 star
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 11:33
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 30 2008 at 22:22
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OUCH!
Did you see that BUMP???
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: May 01 2008 at 10:07
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FOUR LETTER MONDAY AFTERNOON is their best, is to OUT OF FOCUS what THIRD is to SOFT MACHINE and there are a few similarities between the 2 recordings
I like also the first album , which is lighter,no sax yet, nice melodies, but the lyrics ...very outdated....I mean NIXON has gone a long time ago
Never heard of the last one
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