RIP Pip Pyle
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Topic: RIP Pip Pyle
Posted By: Sean Trane
Subject: RIP Pip Pyle
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 07:24
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Happened this night around two! From "natural causes" apparently
Dropping like flies lately!!!
   Bye Pip
And thanks for everything ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 08:59
 He was far too young. 
------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 09:03
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Oh, no! Very sad news indeed.... Now listening to those great Hatfield and National Health albums will never feel the same.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 09:05
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RIP. Great muscian from a great band. One of Canterbury's heros. -------------  
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 09:29
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Amyric Leroy: ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 09:37
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RIP
His work with Hatfield, National Health and Absolute Zero was truly impressive. Great drummer indeed. I'll miss him deeply! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! http://www.last.fm/music/Exerior" rel="nofollow - EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 10:39
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He was the composer of some of the best Canterbury songs. |
RIP Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 10:39
 That's seriously depressing...RIP ------------- 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 11:04
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what... this is a horrible surprise...so sad ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Agemo
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 12:17
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Unbelievable.. I saw the Hatfield concert on saturday at the Zomer Jazz Fiets Tour in Feerwerd (near Groningen). This is very sad... ------------- Dona Nobis Pacem |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 12:47
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I've never heard of him, but my regards go out to fellow musicians. Now I am inspired to find these bands' recordings and hear them. You see? Something can come from death. When I hear his music, I am sure I will understand why you mourn him. RIP.  ------------- The Holy Trinity of Symphonic Progressive Rock 
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 12:48
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Sad News... R.I.P. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 12:49
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R.I.P. Sad year indeed |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 12:56
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I always been impressed by his playing with Hatfield and the north...what a shame...
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 13:20
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Only 56 years old. Sad loss. And I was so hoping for another Absolute Zero album...
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 13:41
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A superb drummer and a talented composer - a sad loss indeed. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: ViolinCyndee
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 13:44
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I am also extremely saddened by this news. Pip was a FINE musician....Amazing!
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 13:58
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RIP It seems a plague came to decimate the Canterburians... first Elton Dean, then Pip Pyle.. ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 14:19
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The great JAM in the sky is getting better... ------------- "He's a man of the past and one of the present" PETER HAMMILL |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 14:45
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Very sad. I've just known and loved his playing for a year or two. Loved Pip Pyle's drumming from first listen. I'll play all the National Health and Hatfield and the North albums I own tomorrow. Halfway Between Heaven and Earth and Tenemos Roads are two of my alltime favorite tracks. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: CandyAppleRed
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 15:11
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I only know him from the National Health albums, but I will play Phlakaton in his memory - the greatest phonetic drum solo ever recorded!
RIP mate, way too young.
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Posted By: eloii
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 16:29
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he was one of my favourite drummers. R.I.P. |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 16:43
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How sad. Only know a little of his work from Hatfield & the North but he impressed. No age to go, either.
RIP
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 16:49
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One of the best drummers ever. Very sad news ! ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 17:15
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Wow. This is really sad news and very shocking too. He will be greatly missed. I have the Absolute zero album and I still haven't played it. Now I have more reason to play it. R.I.P. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 17:17
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 17:27
isn't that the truth... grabs the Hatfield debut and puts in player.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Ghost Rider wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 17:38
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Terrible news and especially at his age!
One of my favorite drummers, and one of the most talented. He will be missed. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 19:02
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Oh my god! This has upset me. I saw Hatfield and the North last year and although I didn't meet him myself (I met Richard Sinclair and Phil Miller was stood nearby), I will greatly remember him from this gig especially. The gig was amazing and a huge surprise. At the time of attendance, I hadn't heard much Hatfields, but the gig just blew me away, amazing! Pip Pyle you will be missed. So young too. My own father reaches 60 soon, so it's such a shame he died at only 56. Requiscat in pace Pip Pyle. -------------   
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 19:06
 !!Pip was an amazingly excellent drummer. Hatfield and the North, National Health, Absolute Zero..... This greatly saddens me. RIP Mr. Pyle. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 20:02
| So... does anyone know what the cause of death was? Was he terminally ill? |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 20:13
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This saddens me.
Shaving is Boring
RIP Pip.
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 21:01
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Has anyone bothered to check the authenticity of this report? I have been all over the Net - including the BBC news, CNN and others - and not one news source is reporting this story.
Can anyone actually confirm it?
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Posted By: ViolinCyndee
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 21:51
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It was posted on the Gong website: http://www.planetgong.co.uk/ - http://www.planetgong.co.uk/
So I am sure they'd know firsthand... ------------- http://cdbaby.com/cd/cyndeeleerule www.cyndeeleerule.com |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 22:13
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Very sad news - such a wonderful musician who will never be forgotten. RIP -------------  "Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 22:38
| Pierre Moerlen last year, now Pip Pyle - another great drummer moves to the realm of afterlife before his 60s. Like someone said bafore me, the jam in Heaven is getting better. Picture a quintet with two drummers (Pyle and Moerlen), plus saxophonist Elton Dean, bassist Jaco Pastorius and flutist Sacha van Geest. Pure jazz-art-rock!! |
Posted By: SlipperFink
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 03:12
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Loved this guys playing. A great jazz-hippie. RIP Pip. Were gonna miss ya. SM. ------------- Modesty is an ornament, but one goes further without it. Old German Proverb |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 05:12
Well Pyle was no McCartney! Couldn't find a link either , but if you check Progressive Ears, there is a thread with more details in their forum
The FMPM organizers have received confirmation.
Hatfield were supposed to be playing at the ProgQuebec-organized festival in Montreal sept 15 & 16. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 06:33
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Saw him live at Hatfield's first gig with the new lineup. Incredible talent. RIP, Mr Pyle, you will be enormously missed. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 07:54
Also mentioned on Calyx. http://calyx.club.fr/index.html - http://calyx.club.fr/index.html
He died with his boots on, just after a great Hatfield gig, but he died much too soon. Listening to Of Queues and Cures just now - Binoculars is a total classic. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: SidSmith
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 10:31
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Pip was a lovely bloke and a great drummer. I saw him many times through his long career. Here's a few words I wrote about him on http://sidsmith.blogspot.com/2006/08/pip-pyle-1950-2006.html - my blog.
------------- Sid Smith http://www.dgmlive.com - http://www.dgmlive.com http://sidsmith.blogspot.com/ - http://sidsmith.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 12:01
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A lovely tribute, Sid. I'm considering writing a sound poem based on "Phlakaton" in honour of Pip, which I'll perform at my next gig (whenever that is). |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 23:41
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Awful, awful news, I just checked my email and read the Canterbury scene Yahoo posts. Another great, gone ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 23:51
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Ouch RIP Pip, I was just getting into his projects, a truly outstanding musician... what a sad loss
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 00:13
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I know that the Gong site and a couple of other sites have been reporting this. But it is now more than 36 hours since it was first alleged, and still not a single news source - not CNN, not The New York Times, not even BBC or The London Times, which one would assume would know by now - has had a single word on this.
Are we all absolutely certain this is not some sort of cruel hoax?
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 00:20
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Maani, all his projects are pretty underground bands and maybe the major news sources overlooked it. I really don't think the official Gong site woud joke like that.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 03:30
No official announcement or confirmation, so I hope the stories are wrong... but I suspect not.  Another fine musician goes -------------  Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 04:02
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The Jazz Bulletin Board has the same news, and anyway the Gong homepage
wouldn't joke about that. R.I.P. Pip Pyle; who would have thought you
would be next when you wrote your tribute to Pierre Moerlen last year?
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 07:16
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Maani, I don't think he was (unfortunately) a large enough presence on the more popular music scene, so I doubt it'll get picked up by the bigger news reporters. Having said that, I think maybe the BBC would have mentioned him, but only in passing. But anyhow, I don't believe it to be a hoax. I am sure in the next few days, we will know more, especially with the upcoming Montréal gigs, which will probably be cancelled (any news on this? I know Bern was looking forward to seeing them). -------------
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 10:37
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that's no fake I think - really sad to hear this
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 10:48
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There have already been changes announced for the Gong Unconventional Festival in Amsterdam in November. There will now also be a tribute to Pip Pyle, in addition to the already planned tribute to Pierre Moerlen. Two great drummers gone within 16 months, and both from the Gong family. A sad loss indeed.
------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 11:40
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Geck0:
Underground or not, when a musician who had just appeared in concert dies in his hotel room, that is news, and is bound to be picked up. As well, music critics and others who regularly write about music - and I am thinking particularly about Jon Pareles at The New York Times, who is as familiar with Gong as he is with The Beatles - would also have picked this up. Again, I'm not saying it didn't happen. But the complete lack of any official confirmation seems highly suspicious.
Peace.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 12:27
Maani,I agree with Gecko. You need to experience how European media deals with anything other than mainstream pop/rock to understand that if,for example, someone relatively "famous" like Bill Bruford died it wouldnt be mentioned on the News never mind a giant of Canterbury like Pip Pyle. Seriously. |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 12:40
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^ If Britney Spears died, they'd pick that up though! ------------- sig |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 13:09
Indeed...but at the end of the day you have to ask yourself this: for every single person that is familiar with Pip Pyle how many more have heard of Britney...1000x ? 10000x ? Unfortunately the cult of celebrity wins over the true artist every time. Note: this is not intended as a slight to the memory of Pip Pyle merely despair at "how things are". One musician is worth a million Britneys.. |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 13:25
I often repeat that sentence to myself, and not only when someone dies.
RIP Pip. ------------- sig |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 14:02
I wonder if you'd say the same thing if she were your daughter... Then again, if she were your daughter, you probably would've raised her properly and made sure that she became a prog drummer.  |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 14:12
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...or a virtuoso mellotorn player! ------------- sig |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 14:26
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Rest In Peace Pip Pyle. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 14:35
Nah,I'd have gone for the quick buck.....  The point is that musicians like Pip pay their dues and hope to get success.They serve an apprenticeship after years of practice and dedication.If they make a financial success of their art then that is a bonus. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 14:37
No need to explain that to me... I know what the difference is... and what I prefer.There's no business like show business...   |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 04:49
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Past Bands : Delivery (1966-70), Chicken Shack (1970-71), Gong (1971), Paul Jones Group (1972), All Wet And Dripping (1972), Hatfield and the North 1972-75, 2005-06), Weight**tchers (1975-76), National Health (1977-83), Soft Heap (1978-88), Rapid Eye Movement (1980-81), In Cahoots (1982-2001), Pip Pyle's Equip'Out (1984-95), Patrice Meyer Trio/Quartet (1985-87), Mimi Lorenzini Trio (1987), Faton Cahen Trio (1987-88), John Greaves Band (1990-91), Short Wave (1991-96), Gong/Shapeshifter (1992-93), Hugh Hopper Band (1994), Richard Sinclair/RSVP (1994), Gong (1994-96), Bash (2002-04), Absolute Zero (1999)
Chicken Shack (1970-71) >>> Not to be confused with bassist Andy Pyle , though
Apparently there a condoleance book at:
http://www.pippyle.com/ - http://www.pippyle.com/
and here is a link for Maani
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/article1222794.ece - http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/article1222794.ece
Bye Bye Pip
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 08:01
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Excellent and fitting obituary. Many thanks for that Sean. -------------
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 09:16
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A word from Robert Dansereau who is in the FMPM organization of the festival in Montreal on Sept 15 and 16 where Hatfield was scheduled to play:
I just got word from Leonardo this morning that Hatfield and the North will be coming to Montreal. Phil, Richard and Alex will be accompanied by their friend Mark Fletcher, who substituted occasionnally for Pip. This will be a very emotional show, and we intend to do something to commemorate Pip's memory. Robert ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 15:45
Still no explanation of his early death though... 
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Posted By: flutterby
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 15:25
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'Hatwise Choice' is my favourite album of 2005 and my favourite live album of all times. My second best live is 'Playtime' by National Health. I met Pip after some excellent gigs with In Cahoots n mid 90s at the Vortex Club. He wasn't a banger but a very melodic, intricate drummer, great composer and lyricist with a great sense of humour and far too young to go. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:14
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 21:05
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Rest in peace.
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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 06:38
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Ironically I have just located and bought Hatfield and the North's first album on CD and loaded it onto the walkman. I shall listen to it on my way home this evening. ------------- When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 07 2006 at 15:55
| I'm afraid we're going to be losing many of our favourite musicians from the 1960s and 1970s in the next decade or so... But Pip Pyle was truly special. Apart from anything else, he played a crucial role in two classic prog bands which never recorded a dud album (and that's incredibly rare): the HATFIELDs and NATIONAL HEALTH. Thank you, Pip! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: October 07 2006 at 15:58
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By the way guys, there's a video montage of Pip Pyle's funeral up on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxdIQwCVUu0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxdIQwCVUu0 -------------
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: October 07 2006 at 16:02
Well said! It's true, many of our heroes of old will soon be passing... we should cherish what they have given us. Don't forget his work with early Gong. I love his playing with Hatfield also. ------------- 
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