Paradox Hotel vs A place in the Queue
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Topic: Paradox Hotel vs A place in the Queue
Posted By: el böthy
Subject: Paradox Hotel vs A place in the Queue
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 20:18
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This are the top albums from their genre this year, or at least the highest ranked I for one, dont enjoy the Flower Kings that much, but I must say I find the tangent to be an awesome band, Tillison is a great composer and In Earnest is a very good album, with one of my favorite epics ever, the title track. But, what do you think? Which do you enjoy more? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 20:42
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The album is called 'A Place in the Queue,' by the way. In Earnest is just the name of the first track. My vote goes to The Tangent anyway, though both albums are amazing. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Deadwing008/?chartstyle=Basquiat"> 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 21:07
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Paradox Hotel by a long shot. Now that Roine is gone, The Tangent are about as exciting as an olive oil enema. E ------------- 
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Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 00:02
| Roine Stolt is a great absence in the 'Place in the Queue' album. His substitute isn't a bad guitar player, but Tillison dominates the things here, and I must confess that I don't like keyboards so much... |
Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 06:02
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Paradox Hotel.
I must thank this album because it started my journey through the Flower Kings world.
One of my best 2006 till now. ------------- 
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 07:35
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Tangent - no contest here!
For me their latest is probably better than TFK whole discography. And mind you I like Flower Kings in general. But "Place in a queue" is just much better
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:10
| I haven't had Paradox Hotel for long. It's good but not as good as A Place in the Queue yet. There's nothing to match In Earnest. |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:19
| Paradox hotel by a very small margin. Andy Tillison is a great talent. |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 12:29
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A Place in the Queue is probably my favourite album of 2006, so no contest.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:15
How stupid of me  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Deadwing12 wrote:Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:18
I differ, I think now Tillison can really grow within the band, as he already did with APITQ ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:31
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<<I differ, I think now Tillison can really grow within the band, as he already did with APITQ>> You could be right; but, I simply couldn't get passed his monotoned vocals. I really felt bored and uninspired by it all. E -------------
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Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:52
Damnit, I can't decide...  You've stumped me, Mister Bothy!
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 19:29
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A Place in the Queue is my most listened to album, and Andy Tillison is one of my most prominent musical idols. I'll have to vote for the Queue. It's lyrics are much more interesting than that of the Paradox Hotel. Paradox Hotel is one of my favorite TFK works, but it still doesn't reach the musical ambition of A Place in the Queue. -------------   "Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 00:04
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I think both suffer most from the loss of Zoltan,personally. With the Tangent, I don't mind this guitarist, I just feel he could have been featured more inplace of some of the keyboard solos maybe.I'm going with 'A Place...' ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 04:21
| Paradox Hotel for me. |
Posted By: NeAl MoRsE
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 08:49
| Paradox hotel is a little bit better than a place in the queue.... |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 09:20
Tillison dominates because it is Tillison's band.The first Tangent album was actually meant to be Andy's first solo album but it morphed into something else,went off on a tangent,pun intended.None of the members but Tillison are meant to be permanent.I just had to say that because alot of people are under the misconception that they were a Roine Stolt project,and they aren't. A Place in the Queue for me,I think it is a brilliant album,especially after the disappointing The World That We Drive Through(which isn't terrible,it's just not in the same league as The Tangent's brilliant debut). -------------  |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 14:38
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^Spot-on Progtologist. Tillison has always been the brains and driving force but thankfully, he seems to have very little ego and welcomed input from Stolt and others on the first album. Who knows how it might have turned out without said input but as you and I know, it is indeed "brilliant." The whole thing turned into something other than originally planned, which is hardly unheard of in the fluid universe that is music. And I am sure the resultant outcome is something Tillison and his prog audience are extremely happy with. I would bet he still has a good relationship with Stolt, but part of him is probably pleased that his new band could come up with another winner and that the spotlight would be more on him, be it good or bad, than having the FK crutch that many people felt was used through the first two albums. I voted Tangent, but love Hotel as well. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 14:51
Now that Stolt is gone...I must say that I'm starting to like the Tangent more than before. 
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:28
So you are saying that Stolt detracted from the first two albums? ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 17:24
Well, Queue is my favorite Tangent album (followed by the second one, in fact), but that is also Stolt-less is probably correspondence without causation. On the other hand, I do prefer Tillison as a vocalist and my first impression of the Tangent was something like "This is too FK-like; I miss Po90." That being said, I have lately discovered that I do, in fact, like the Flower Kings! Paradox Hotel is not my favorite, but it has some good tracks ("Bavarian Skies", especially, and that one after it). |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 09:37
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^Your first sentence does not make sense grammatically speaking. Stolt is on the second album. If you don't like his singing on the first two, that I might understand, but I would imagine that those two albums would not be as good without his writing contributions and guitar playing. From what I have heard of PO90 is great. I downloaded their free album off the website and heard some others on internet radio. Who knows if that project will ever get resurrected but it will probably be quite some time if it does. But without Stolt, isn't The Tangent now about the same thing anyway? ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 09:58
That's why I made that point a parenthetical comment. It has so relation to the Stolt discussion; I only mentioned it because it seems that everyone talks about the first and third, and I suppose I felt bad for the second, a great album... Now, I don't really care whether Tillison writes under the name Parallel or 90 Degrees or Tangent. You're right, it's essentially the same. However, the more light and retro sound of The Music That Died Alone was a disappointing change in direction for me not long after Po90's darkest and most modern-sounding work, More Exotic Ways to Die. I respect that most people do not feel that way, and I don't want to argue the point, for there is no point to argue. There is no disputing about tastes, and there is no disputing the fact that Stolt is amazingly talented.  End of discussion. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 11:30
Agreed on most points. The project is Tillison's. Stolt wasn't a creative influence, but his participation in the project along with Jackson's really helped market the project. I quite like a lot of the vocals Stolt did on the first two albums, but I wasn't hurt one bit after his departure. I quite liked The World That We Drive Through, I actually prefer it to the The Music That Died Alone. There are some great songs in "The Winning Game", "Skipping the Distance", and "A Gap In the Night". ------------- "Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 12:16
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I felt bad for the second, a great album... The second was a grower for me, while the first blew my doors off. The second gets panned by some but yes-great album. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 09:13
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Definitely A Place in the Queue. A Place is a lot more solid overall and has two amazing epics (In Earnest and self-titled) and the short songs are all very good as well. Paradox Hotel is still great, but there are some songs that don't do anything to me. Right now, A Place in the Queue is my favorite 06 album, but I got The Dark Third yesterday and that might change. ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjamin_Breeg
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 12:02
Paradox Hotel 
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Posted By: shanocles
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 22:45
hehe. interesting how you put that babydoctor. i think the tangent sound better without stolt ... and yeah i'll go with 'A Place In The Queue'. i like this album a lot, but i'm getting the 'Instant Delivery' DVD/CD so i can be more convinced of paradox hotel (although the lyrics are somewhat to annoying like wall street voodoo). when you hear karmakanic's wheel of life and the solos that Krister is pulling out there you know that they are only gonna end up on a tangent record somewhere/sometime. so don't fear!!! just get the new karmakanic album when it decides it wants to be finished.  ------------- if left is wrong i don't wanna be right...  |