has Steve Howe been Ripped Off?
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Topic: has Steve Howe been Ripped Off?
Posted By: fragile43k
Subject: has Steve Howe been Ripped Off?
Date Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:27
| Has Steve Howe been Ripped Off? It seems that the guitar section in Echolyn's "Memoirs From Between" is a little too similiar to Steve Howe's "worm" section" in "Starship Trooper". Just listen to them both, they are amazingly similiar--even the build up with the drumming. Has anyone noticed this. "Suffucating the Bloom" is still a great album despite this fact. |
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:46
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I don't know about that, but allegedly Mariah Carey once borrowed twenty quid off him and never paid him back. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 03 2005 at 17:02
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i've always thought that heart of the sunrise was similar to 21st century schizoid man. well some of the riffs. ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: January 03 2005 at 17:19
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Okay, I just checked out Memoirs and I can see the Wurm influence there, but it's a far cry from a rip off. The slow ascending, swell effect is pretty common in prog and classical. I'd think it's just a part of composition, not plagiarism. I believe Howe, among others, is an influence on Brett Kull. Check out Cactapus on STB and then listen to Allan Holdsworth's Home from Metal Fatigue. The chording style is very similar, however, I think Mr. Kull throws these bits in to celebrate the influences, bot steal from them. Echolyn also has a large amount of Gentle Giant's signatures throughout their music. And yes, Suffocating the Bloom is an outstanding record. |
Posted By: fragile43k
Date Posted: January 03 2005 at 20:22
| danbo, when I realized this similarity I was watching Yes' dvd "Yes Symphonic". At the end of the Dvd when the credits are rolling the piano playing and drumming build into "Worm" (a slightly different version from the album). Watch the DVD, the similarity is much more close than it is on the album. |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 05:55
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Steal one idea and it's a rip-off. Steal two or more and it's a tribute... ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 07:32
Steal more than three, then call your band 'Pallas' Memo to self - must stop hating Pallas! -------------  Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
sigod wrote:Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 07:37
great result against The Villa yesterday, though. -------------   |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 07:38
------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 11:09
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I'll have to get that DVD. Maybe we could get maani to interview Brett Kull and ask about the similarity. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 15:38
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dont get me started on the biggest ripper offer blaggers off all... led zeppelin openly admit to lots of uncredited borowing. ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 17:55
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All right who would steal Steve Howe and why would they want him (have you seen what he looks like lately)? Did anyone notify the rest of the band? -------------  "What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |