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Topic: Blackmore´s Night and Christmas Carols
Posted By: WaywardSon
Subject: Blackmore´s Night and Christmas Carols
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 16:20
I just read that Blackmore´s Night plans to release an album of Christmas Carols!
Ritchie Blackmore says that as a child he would go around from doorstep to doorstep singing carols, now he says he can make more money by making an album of carols!
The album is to be called "Winter Carols"
 
I personally think he has gone too far! What an enormous waste of talent.
It was bad enough seeing him prance around in tights and boots!
What a waste...in fact what an absolute loon!!
 
 



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Posted By: XTChuck
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 17:16
He may as well go ahead and make a Christmas record.  He's had his head up his you-know-what for many years now when it comes to music.  Blackmore's Night is nothing more than a novelty act as far as I'm concerned.  Candice Night is a no-talent and Blackmore's talent has completely gone to waste. Dead
 
It's almost too weird to laugh at.....


Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 17:18
I disagree. We ignore our traditions at our peril. Making innovative, progressive music is fine, but there has to be a place for material from an earlier generation to be performed or else it dies.

After all, many great prog acts have drawn heavily on music from the past (ELP, Trace Mannfred Mann's Earthband to name a few) and turned it into prog by giving it a new approach.

Blackmore's album may not be prog, but if he does a good job of it, I won't complain.


Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 17:46
Blackmore's Night is great. And if Ritchie likes what he is doing, how can anyone be so selfish to say that he is wasting his talent?

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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 18:19
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Blackmore's Night is great. And if Ritchie likes what he is doing, how can anyone be so selfish to say that he is wasting his talent?
 
A lot of people share my view. Shadow of the moon was a great album but lately his output is rather commercial and monotonous.
He has cut off his nose to spite his face.
I like some Blackmore´s Night (in fact I´m a big Blackmore fan), but what he will be remembered for is his fantastic guitar work in the seventies.


Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 18:30
Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

but what he will be remembered for is his fantastic guitar work in the seventies.
 
Indeed, and so it doesn't matter at all what he's doing right know. Even if he'd rejoin Deep Purple (and I'm sure he won't), it will always be compared to what he did in the seventies. So let him do what he likes.


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Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 18:52
Sure, he can do what he likes, I can´t exactly stop him<img  but I think he still has it in him to release a classic rock album.
I just find it a bit sad that they would release an album of Christmas Carols(That would be more expected from Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey, in fact I think they have done a Mariah Carey cover on one of their albums)
I´ve got nothing against Blackmore´s Night BTW , some of the songs I´ve heard are excellent.


Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 00:53
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There are plenty of Prog acts that have released Christmas albums. The Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, Mostly Autumn and Trans-Siberian Orchestra, all of which I really enjoy listening to at Christmas, so why shouldn't Blackmore's Night do the same?

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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 01:01
Originally posted by Forgotten Son Forgotten Son wrote:

postamble()

There are plenty of Prog acts that have released Christmas albums. The Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, Mostly Autumn and Trans-Siberian Orchestra, all of which I really enjoy listening to at Christmas, so why shouldn't Blackmore's Night do the same?
 
Here hereClap Ritchie Blackmore is no "spring chicken". So why should he not indulge himself in what he likes doing best, with "Blackmore's Night." I still think he is one of Rock music's greatest guitarist but the man is simply not as interested in producing the heavy riffs as he did back in the 70's and 80's. Good on him for being up front with his Christmas project - whether we agree or disagree.


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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 02:24
Mr.Blackmore has achieved more than most musicians in his life, he has worked with many legendary musicians, made some classic albums, led his own supergroup, lived the rock'n'roll lifestyle unscathed - he deserves to do what he likes and explore things he wants to - if he wants to make an album of Christmas Carols good luck to him!!Clap
 
 
 


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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpää
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 03:04
Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

I just read that Blackmore´s Night plans to release an album of Christmas Carols!
 
Fits the artistic line of their first album. Dead


Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 11:09
Has anyone seen the 'olde mill inn' video? just makes things worse. Still Music like deep purple and rainbow isnt my kind of thing so i can just laugh 


Posted By: rainbow111
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 11:33
I enjoy Blackmore's Night, quite a bit! I also can relate to the story of caroling at doors at Christmas time...I'd love to hear Candice put a spin on some of these songs...she's quite the talented singer (and quite the cutie too)
I don't care how bad you think she sings, try looking at her and not say something...Big smile


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Taking love the only way
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Making love and taking time to let it grow


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 11:52
Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

 
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

 
Blackmore's Night is great. And if Ritchie likes what he is doing, how can anyone be so selfish to say that he is wasting his talent?
 
 
A lot of people share my view. Shadow of the moon was a great album but lately his output is rather commercial and monotonous.
He has cut off his nose to spite his face.
I like some Blackmore´s Night (in fact I´m a big Blackmore fan), but what he will be remembered for is his fantastic guitar work in the seventies.
 
 
I am torn between both of your stance.
 
People need to get over Blackmore's past. He does not owe anyone anything anymore, especially noyt the industry.
 
So Ritchie does exactly what he wants , fine for him and he's got a delicious babe to sink his teeth (and more) into. I read somewhere that he is really living out a fantasy as best as he can.
 
 
But let's face it, if the first two or three albums were acceptable, the formula has grown quite thin, and Candice, whose talents are pretty thin (on stage anyway, I will not judge otherwise), is now becoming increasingly irritating. she is not a good singer, just passable. And the show is actually held/run by Candice's mother who acts as their manager.
 
Fortunately no-one is forcing me to listen to their stuff.
 
 
But I think it is time Ritchie stopped before BN is becoming ridiculous.


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 12:02
Men.. Just because a woman looks nice, that can compensate for a lack of talent!Angry And then you get angry when a woman listens to 'cute' male artists...Unhappy

That said, I agree with Hugues about Ritchie having the right to do whatever he pleases, after decades spent dealing with the record industry. However, it's also true that the music BN produce is really not the best example of the genre, and that Candice's voice is far from the best I've heard. After having heard a couple of their songs, I just wasn't interested in finding out more -  mind you, not because it's not DP or Rainbow, jbut ust because it's rather cheesy music, done much better by others.


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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 12:03
Well, yes, what I've heard of Blackmore's Night isn't terrible- far from it- it's just a bit 'hey nonny nonny' for my taste. I think it's a bit surprising that some people find his image change THAT startling- this is a man that used to play 'Greensleeves' and 'English Country Garden' in his lengthy guitar slots, and even did a song called 'Sixteenth Century Greensleeves'.  Heck, his favourite band is Jethro Tull and has been for years, I believe. I will agree that the whole image is a bit dodgy- particularly something I read where people in medieval clothing get in cheaper- and the mother managing (I've read a horror story about her ripping up a Deep Purple fan's signed album with everyone's signature bar Blackmore's...) is like Spinal Tap, but he's doing what he wants, I guess.
 
Interestingly, I once saw a bizarre interview where Blackmore claimed he formed Blackmore's Night because Frank Sinatra didn't know who he was!!ConfusedLOL


Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 12:29
Salmacis - My father(a Sinatra fan<img ) who is well into his seventies, loved "Shadow of the moon" as did I. Then I bought him "Under a violet moon" for his birthday and he said "It´s just a repeat of the first one".
 
Has anyone heard Ritchie´s son play guitar? I think he has already released 2 albums and some of the songs are really impressive.
Jurgen Blackmore, really worth checking out.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 03:51
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Men.. Just because a woman looks nice, that can compensate for a lack of talent!Angry And then you get angry when a woman listens to 'cute' male artists...Unhappy

 
That's what I tried to say to Anthony about Mostly Autumn 's Heather Findlay. But he avoided the subject Wink
 
Actually I find that the same cheap and cheesy "noney-noney" stuff  is reigning on BN and MA albums .
 
I find both group just barely worthy of inclusion in prog folk , really!!! They should be both in prog-related.


Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 04:02
Indeed! Only dried up loser progsters record Christmas albums! Never catch one of my boys doin' that!

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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 04:07
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Men.. Just because a woman looks nice, that can compensate for a lack of talent!Angry And then you get angry when a woman listens to 'cute' male artists...Unhappy

 
That's what I tried to say to Anthony about Mostly Autumn 's Heather Findlay. But he avoided the subject Wink
 
*cough* You're not reading a word I write, do you? then I'll explain it to you one more time:
Yes, I DO love Heather, but that's not the reason why I'm a M.A. fan. The first tracks I've ever heard from there were INSTRUMENTALS, and so I thought they were an instrumental band, I didn't know Heather was a singer. And what I do with instrumental tracks, I focus on the guitar player and if he's good, I give the band a try. So, I became M.A.-fan, because I liked, and still like, what Bryan Josh does, and not just because Heather is a hot lady.
And no, good looks cannot compensate for lack of talent, but that doesn't automatically mean that a good looking lady doesn't have any talent, or that someone becomes a fan because of a hot frontlady without listening to the music.
 
 
Back to Blackmore's Night now...


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Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 04:09
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Indeed! Only dried up loser progsters record Christmas albums! Never catch one of my boys doin' that!
 
I guess you meant that sarcastic, as Jethro Tull also recorded a Christmas album.


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Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love
(Introitus - The hand that feeds you)


Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 04:15
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Indeed! Only dried up loser progsters record Christmas albums! Never catch one of my boys doin' that!
 
I guess you meant that sarcastic, as Jethro Tull also recorded a Christmas album.
 
...yes...
 
(hangs head in shame)


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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson


Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 04:41


well, IMHO, there are two sides of it...

first of all, i don't like BN, i think is poor folk, and i'm sure Richie did it for Candice... so, no, since the motive wasn't need for expression via music, i don't agree with this project, even less for Christmas Carols...

still, i wouldn't expect anything great from him if he didn't go down that road... i mean, if he had Rainbow or was in Purple, he wouldn't change the history of music like he once did... he would probably release mediocre LPs like Purple do and just tour to perform his classics much like the best tribute band to himself... what i'm trying to say is i don't miss him from the rock map... and since he is commiting the most acceptable crime - submitting to his lady's will - just let the guy do whatever he likes... he's written his own gold pages in the big book of rock music, we will always love him and listen to his immortal rock anthems...


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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 04:57

     
    


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 06:37
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

 
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

 
Men.. Just because a woman looks nice, that can compensate for a lack of talent!Angry And then you get angry when a woman listens to 'cute' male artists...Unhappy

 
That's what I tried to say to Anthony about Mostly Autumn 's Heather Findlay. But he avoided the subject Wink
 
 
*cough* You're not reading a word I write, do you? then I'll explain it to you one more time:  >>> Lucky we do not try to write in Dutch, we would communicate even less correctly.TongueLOL Anthony, notice the winky smiley??? It was a slight pique which did not require your full explanation. I had caught you around the first time! Just wanted to have a quick humorous poke; because Rafaella's post allowed me to do so. Well at least you're not getting mad at me anymoreWink
 
Back to Blackmore's Night now...
 
 
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

 
and the mother managing (I've read a horror story about her ripping up a Deep Purple fan's signed album with everyone's signature bar Blackmore's...) is like Spinal Tap, but he's doing what he wants, I guess.
 
 
 
Actually it is easy to see the plot here. Obviously Ritchie is madly hooked on the blonde and she and her mother know it. And they both know her talents are limited (Ritchie probably knows it too, but he's getting his thingie wet, so he cares only halfway) and they know the project would not survive Ritchie's wake up call.
 
So the dragon mother-in-law is watching out for potential dangers (or other sirens) and loses her temper stupidly when the "Purple Spectre" goes by her. Question of personal insecurity, I guess
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 06:57
who is it?


Posted By: rainbow111
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 12:06
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

 
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

 
Blackmore's Night is great. And if Ritchie likes what he is doing, how can anyone be so selfish to say that he is wasting his talent?
 
 
A lot of people share my view. Shadow of the moon was a great album but lately his output is rather commercial and monotonous.
He has cut off his nose to spite his face.
I like some Blackmore´s Night (in fact I´m a big Blackmore fan), but what he will be remembered for is his fantastic guitar work in the seventies.
 
 
I am torn between both of your stance.
 
People need to get over Blackmore's past. He does not owe anyone anything anymore, especially noyt the industry.
 
So Ritchie does exactly what he wants , fine for him and he's got a delicious babe to sink his teeth (and more) into. I read somewhere that he is really living out a fantasy as best as he can.
 
 
But let's face it, if the first two or three albums were acceptable, the formula has grown quite thin, and Candice, whose talents are pretty thin (on stage anyway, I will not judge otherwise), is now becoming increasingly irritating. she is not a good singer, just passable. And the show is actually held/run by Candice's mother who acts as their manager.
 
Fortunately no-one is forcing me to listen to their stuff.
 
 
But I think it is time Ritchie stopped before BN is becoming ridiculous.
 
Some say he made a fool of himself with Rainbow (the 80's Rainbow)
ex; with a siger like JLT (though don't get me wrong, I really enjoy JLT and Rainbow-I was listening to Power when I wrote this)...


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It's got to be slow
Taking love the only way
It's got to just flow
Making love and taking time to let it grow


Posted By: Hacketeer
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 18:09

 As a big-time Blackmore fan, I could weep! What the hell is he on? I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone who can actually take pleasure from the twee pap he is vomiting forth, but, remember, this man was THE finest British rock guitar player. Ever.

  I can't fathom him at all, why didn't he explore his classical leanings further? Refine the stuff he did in his Rainbow days with Beethoven, Holst etc?
 
 The man (in black) has clearly lost the plot Cry


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 09:05
Well I don't like what he does now but I couldn't say it's really that bad. I do think he
errs too much on the side of twee though, and the Christmas album isn't the right step. There's nothing wrong with going down a folk path, I think he just should have done it without novelty or corniness attached.


Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 13:57
Here is more info on the album, it also shows the cover artwork
 
http://www.deep-purple.net/related-news/ritchie-blackmore.htm - http://www.deep-purple.net/related-news/ritchie-blackmore.htm



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