Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
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Topic: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Subject: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 14:14
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42:04 minutes of sheer brilliance - why didn't anybody tell me that this piece of music - Starts like THE ENID....Fantastic, this has got to be one of the best PROG EPICS, Love at first listening or what........ |
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 15:21
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i like it, just i hardly ever listen to it cos it takes up 42 minutes! i prefer the individual pieces that are on live at budokan. 6DOIT disc 1 is incredible tho. one of my faveseditID>frenchie ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Spanky
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 15:55
| As a whole, Six Degrees is my favorite Dream Theater album. Even though it's really only six songs, they are all awesome. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 16:23
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Try this:
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 16:24
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harsh but fair RL ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 16:31
Just wanted to help out with the Inner Turbulence! ------------- |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 16:36
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Question - will DSOTM blow me away like DT just have ??? - Personal taste is a strange thing, I mean how can anbody not like fresh butter melting onto hot golden brown chips smothered in vinegar and tomato ketchup beween fresh white bread !!!! ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 07 2005 at 16:46
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[QUOTE=Swinton MCR]Question - will DSOTM blow me away like DT just have ??? - Personal taste is a strange thing, I mean how can anbody not like fresh butter melting onto hot golden brown chips smothered in vinegar and tomato ketchup beween fresh white brea ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 08 2005 at 05:33
| The orchestral bit is dire! It sounds like something from a Disney film! Good album though. |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 08 2005 at 06:34
 ------------------------------>>>>> doing a RUSH for the bog !!!!!!!!!!!  ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 08 2005 at 06:45
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Velvetclown wrote:Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 08 2005 at 07:55
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 08 2005 at 09:24
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holy crap! that pic is classic! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 08 2005 at 21:23
| 6DOIT is an amazing album in my opinion! "The Glass Prison" is currently one of my favourite Dream Theater songs. And the title track itself (although not as good as SFAM), is absolutely brilliant. |
Posted By: joniox
Date Posted: January 09 2005 at 15:21
| I don't know why, but the first CD sucks to me in SDOIT. I'm kind of weird Dream Theater fan: I own most of the albums I think, but I only like Awake, Train of Thought and 2nd half of SDOIT. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 09 2005 at 15:34
| The first track on CD1 of six degrees basically IS train of thought. In fact isn't part II of it on the Train of Thought album? |
Posted By: joniox
Date Posted: January 09 2005 at 15:42
Probably. I don't even bother to check out.  |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: January 09 2005 at 17:34
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The Glass Prison represents the first three steps in the 12 steps program. This Dying Soul on ToT represents steps four and five. The mirror on Awake is also about Mike's problems with alcohol, hence the lyrical and musical references the la ------------- We Lost the Skyline............  |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 09 2005 at 19:45
| When did Mike have alcohol problems? |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 09 2005 at 22:31
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My 2 cents, 6DOIT is a masterpiece, probably my favorite DT album at the moment. I think that Misunderstood has good lyrics. Overall I would give it a 9.5/10. ------------- 
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Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 03:15
You think Dark Side Of The Moon is average and this album is amazing? 
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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 05:47
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Yes - DT - 6 Degrees just blew me away - first time listening and consequently has impressed me more and more - I love the drumming the power and the startling guitar/synth virtuosity, all of which are absent from DSOTM - Obviously, but you can still sit t ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 05:52
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Hey whatever floats your boat mate...bit of a curiosity to me though. Back when I first got into prog Dream Theater used to impress me too with their 'virtuosity'. Would you stop with those Emperor's clothes comments? That's just plain arrogance. |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 05:57
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You've obviously never tried to play drums, I have and can only marvel at Portnoy's skill.... He's up there with Peart, White, Bruford and the very best Jazz drummers too.... ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:02
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How surprising, another arrogant comment. Portnoy is a good drummer, flashy, but I've heard plenty that are a lot better. Stop thinking you know everything! |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:04
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The Emperors Clothes story applies to DSOTM - How many people have said they liked it because they didn't want to be ridiculed ?? Tales from Topographic Oceans has the opposite effect - Nobody would admit to liking such a "boring" piece of music |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:08
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have you ever sat behind a drum kit ?? If not then I have and Portnoy is astonishingly skilful, I see where your at now "Flashy" - You like Floyd / simplicity - Hate complexity and skill = Fair enough - you are different from me, accept it but d |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:17
| In my opinion, Mike Portnoy is the greatest drummer alive. We all have different opinions. |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:18
| Argh you're just being silly. I don't play the drums, but I know plenty about them (judging from your list of names, more than you do). There are many drummers that impress me far more than Portnoy, from a technical standpoint, as well as creativity and fe |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:31
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Obviously ! - If I want feeling I'd listen to Hackett , Gilmours not bad...But Floyd fans always have him as best...Why ??? And until you try to Drum, you cannot judge drummers, you can like one more than another, I like Howe/Hackett more than |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:36
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Why do people think Hackett is the best? Because they personally like his style, and it has feeling to them, regardless of what others think. Same with Gilmour. Pretty simple really. |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 06:41
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[QUOTE=Swinton MCR] Obviously ! - If I want feeling I'd listen to Hackett , Gilmours not bad...But Floyd fans always have him as best...Why ??? And until you try to Drum, you cannot judge drummers, you can like one more than another, I like Ho |
Posted By: Giacas
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:34
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To be honest, does it really matter how complex a piece of music is? If you like it, just leave it at that and enjoy it. Skill can be an big aid in writing songs, of course. But some of the nicest pieces of music are extremely simple but give a gre |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:36
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6DOIT has it all ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Giacas
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:37
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maybe, personally i prefer SFAM, but there you go. ------------- Look at how they flock to him From an aisle of open sores He knows that the taste is such is such to die for |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:47
well everyone prefers SFAM!!! but 6DOIT is still immense ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Giacas
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:50
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lol im sure not everyone prefers it.... or am i? ------------- Look at how they flock to him From an aisle of open sores He knows that the taste is such is such to die for |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 19:25
| Comparing DSOTM to any Dream Theater album is ridiculous. Dark Side was made at a completely different time in music history, and instead of getting right in your face and dazzling you with incredible musicianship, it's more of a lo-fi, laid back, su |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 19:27
hehe you said bashing each other ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 00:10
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Exhibit A that prog fans are not smarter than the rest of the world.
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 00:31
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We are dumb all over !!! ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 09:45
| There is no "best" when it's comes to music. It all comes down to personal opinion. |
Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 10:52
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"Dumb all over. Yes We Are.....Nerds on the left, Nerds on the right" |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 14:50
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Six Degrees track itself has everything - from The Enid symphonic start to the rush like guitar riffs - to the Classical guitar and synth of 1970's Yes - Yep a truly amazing piece of music !!! ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 14:52
 ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 16:08
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What he said. |
Posted By: St Hubbins
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 08:40
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Dream Theater are a stunning group of musicians and 6 Degrees fits perfectly into their portfolio. ------------- Here lies David St Hubbins and why not.... |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 24 2005 at 19:18
| We're gonna get on just fine. |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 25 2005 at 09:16
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I love "6DoIT". I've always thought that Disc 1 was basically a combination of avantgarde rock and harsh heavy metal tendencies in a prog metal context. The latter would be assumed more thoroughly in their following record, while the form |
Posted By: frosty
Date Posted: January 25 2005 at 10:47
| I prefer the second disc, just my personal preference |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: January 25 2005 at 12:06
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The start of Disc II - I love it - very "The Enid" is any more DT like this CD, I've got scenes from a memory which has a fantastic opening 20 minutes but then goes a bit downhill. I've not listened to Images and words apart from the first track |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: January 25 2005 at 12:31
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Yeah, it is meant to do that, though it is a bit weird, you should check out the rest of that album, it's excellent, metropolis pt.1 and learning to live are particularly good ------------- We Lost the Skyline............ |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 25 2005 at 14:20
I read about it in the FAQ; it said something like it represents how suddenly death can come or something. I think they just cocked up the recording and made up an excuse 
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 25 2005 at 18:59
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Probably that, lol, but that did have me wondering until I heard them do it on a live recording. As for "6DOIT", this is amazing. I always thought this album was considered crap, so to see so many people who like it is really cool.
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Posted By: Whoa Is Me
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 11:26
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Six degrees of inner turbulence ... preety good ... but i prefer Metropolis Prt2 - Scenes form a memory ace  ------------- I too once thought the radio played, Let's act like children while we sleep paralyzed |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 11:30
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It's weird - I listened to MPt2 and the Opening 20-25 minutes is Mind-blowing, but - it loses it for the rest - it just doesn't quite match the start, still great but not fantastic ! - However SDOIT is just Mindblowing period! ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 18:32
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 20:23
I guess tha tthe abrupt ending signals Hamlet's death: you see, |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 00:01
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[QUOTE=Cesar Inca] I guess tha tthe abrupt ending signals Hamlet's death: you see, the lyrics are inspired by Hamlet's determination to undertake a course of action to avenge his father's murder ("I'll take seven lives for one and then my only father's |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 03:20
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"The Spirit Carries On" In my opinion. |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:51
Have to agree that The Spirit Carries On has good words. -------------
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 19:14
| Good. |
Posted By: liquidtenor
Date Posted: February 05 2005 at 23:05
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When I first got SDOIT, I wasn't crazy about the first disc but loved the 2nd. I was just listening to disc 1 a couple of days ago and was enjoying it quite a bitit's grown on me. I just love listening to DT music, listening to it evolve. Petrucci |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 03:19
| "the Glass Prison"... 6DOIT disc 1 track 1... is one of my fave DT tracks. |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 09:18
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Disc II is their best effort that I have heard so far - but I have just listened to "A Change of Seasons" - and that is classy too.... ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Gabito
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 10:09
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I was addicted to this album when I got it... Truly amazing... The disc one is a step in the evolve of Train of Thought as I see... But is the second disc suite what blows my mind out... And still does! Regards ------------- it doesn't matter in which stripe you shot a zebra, it will die anyway |
Posted By: Rex Reid
Date Posted: April 16 2005 at 12:44
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6DoiT is amazing as far as I am concerned. Another Dream Theater classic.
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 16 2005 at 13:40
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 19:58
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Learning to Live, bitches. Learning to Live, bitches. I repeat Learning to Live. It's also my favorite DT song of all time. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 27 2005 at 06:50
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I agree that cd 2 of 6DOIT is a truly fantastic piece iof music. I prefer it even to Chaange of Seasons, it shows a true develpment. Cd1 was harder for me, but eventually I began to love the first 5 degrees, Glass Prison wonderful stuff !!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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