Mindflow-Complex Prog Metal
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Topic: Mindflow-Complex Prog Metal
Posted By: WaywardSon
Subject: Mindflow-Complex Prog Metal
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 09:03
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After reading the two 5 star reveiws on this site I was curious to see why their latest album, "Mind Over Body" was rated so highly.
It is an album that takes a few listens and is definitely a grower. As I was listening for the third time, I thought this is really on a par with SFAM.
I posted a link where you can download the entire album (in the legal mp3 thread)
What are your thoughts on Mindflow? Are they the next big prog metal band?
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 09:44
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I ordered Mind Over Body album and hopefully will be receiving it in about two weeks time. It is special edition release - digi-pack with 24 pages booklet and 28 pages book of comics (?) or something like that... Interesting... ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 11:19
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26187&PN=6 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26187&PN=6
2 Complete Albums at Mindflows Official Website, including Mind Over Body.
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eugene wrote:Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 14:32
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Mindflow are an incredible band,and are one of the few that play Dream Theater type prog metal without being totally derivative.Their new album Mind Over Body is very good but I strobgly urge you to check out their album "Just the Two of Us...Me and Them",it's an amazing album.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 14:38
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Just downloaded "Just the two of us.." so I will give it the headphone test later on.
I find it a bit strange that all their albums are available for download on their official site. Maybe it will be for a limited time only.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 13:14
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I am listening to MindFlow 2000 now and, to my regret, all I hear is very ordinary and derivative standard good quality prog-metal. Usual high instrumental skills and good arrangements but nothing remotely new or fresh. This is definitely for DT/Symphony X fans, it also reminds me some other bands which names I can't recall at the moment. The good thing is that I already have a buyer for this CD.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 13:25
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^^^^
Which album did you get?
Maybe you should give it a few listens. I have "Mind Over Body" which is brilliant and very original.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 17:00
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It was "Just The Two of US Me and Them" - I'll give it another spin or two - for sure...
Mind Over Body will be next, no high hopes though - I mean they are skilled musicians but this kind of music is most probably not my cup of tea.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 23:40
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Has anyone else heard of this brilliant band? (Before this thread dies and is forgotten) |
Posted By: Swanhild
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 21:42
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The fact that the band is from Brazil left me curious - no Brazilian prog metal band till now suceeded in captivating me. I downloaded 2nd dawn and liked it at the first listen. Sure they have some DT flavour (and tunes, too ;-) ), but there is more to their music than just that. I am not so sure the vocal sounds like Labrie as is stated in some of the reviews; for me it seems a bit distinct from Labrie, maybe more Alder-oriented; anyway he has a nice voice for prog-metal. I will download more songs from their page in some days (do need to format my computer before) and then I will be able to say more.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 08:15
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2nd Dawn is from their debut album. Their new album is much more complex. Honestly, I think their new album is better than SFAM by Dream Theater.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 09:06
^ not even close. I just listened to it, and they're ripping off Pain of Salvation (Remedy Lane, anyone?) most of the time ... apart from the first track, where they're ripping off Dream Theater . Also, although the musicians are all doing a terrific job and the production is great, the singer could sing much more clearly, and the lyrics are sub par (IMO).It's a good album - but nowhere near masterpieces like SFAM or Remedy Lane. I would only recommend it to people who can tolerate the "derivativeness". ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 10:05
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Hmmm
I agree with you about his pronounciation but I think he his a much better vocalist overall than La Brie.
After roughly twenty listens I think itīs better than SFAM because there seems to be more going on musically, more time changes etc
Donīt get me wrong I love SFAM too, but this is one of those albums that gets better after every listen.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 10:13
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^ I only listened to the Mindflow album once, and of course the more complex the music, the more there is to discover with subsequent listens. But the album is much more patchy than SFAM - it lacks the "cohesion". And there's no Home or Dance of Eternity ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 10:17
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^^^^
Give "Mind Over body" a few listens on headphones Mike, the first time I heard it I thought it was just average, then on the 3rd listen I saw the light!
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:23
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SFAM isn't any good though Mike ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:25
Everything is better than SFAM by definition.  ------------- sig |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:31
No, I was just using it as the benchmark of prog metal because of itīs rating status.
Itīs a great album
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:32
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^^^ me and Ivan don't think so, but we are trying to keep the flaming to a minimum  ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:37
I did use headphones ... but then again I only listened to the 128kbps files that you can download from their website. I think I'll buy the album and listen to it properly.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:43
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What would you and Ivan say are the most important prog metal albums, the top 3
Just curious...(Like the CTTE of Prog Metal)
I donīt think itīs flame throwing, weīare all friends here, just talking about music
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:50
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I don't really judge music by its importance, although I surely will listen to things people find "important", just because it is also "popular". But watch out and don't get those two words mixed up. The latest PoS will not influence much quality prog, but it is as popular as few Prog-Metal bands will ever get with ANY album. On the contrary, for instance, Ved Buens Ende's amazing debut is of greater importance than anything else in the Post-Black subgenre, but due to its unique sound that not many will EVER appreciate, knowing that the aesthetics it presents contradicts the majority's values in Prog Metal.
I can't really say what the three most important in prog-metal are, but I suppose one could mention Atheist's sophomore release, Death's Human, Dream Theater's IaW (not that I like it at all, but it influenced many and is important for many bands playing prog-metal relying on heavy technique accents and based around traditional, power or speed metal), something by Queensryche, DEFINITELY Voivod's Dimensional Hatross...
Back on topic, I've never heard Mindflow (in fact, I actually mistakingly recommended them to the PMT a few days ago, thinking we hadn't got them), which of the two albums do I get first? ------------- sig |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:52
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^ simply download both from their website.
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:53
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Downloading two albums from a single band is a crime for a person with 600 MB of free disk space. ------------- sig |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:54
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No, certainly not Greg, I mostly do stuff all in good fun. For me, I'd see it as 2 lists ( one of stuff I'd suggest to others and my own favs) For others: 1. Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane (a very accessible release) 2. Tool - Lateralus (though not my fav. Tool record, it's certainly enjoyed by many) 3. Dream Theater - Awake (my favorite DT record, and I find it easily better than SFAM) My own self-righteous opinion: 1. Opeth - Still Life (the record to own, as I have stated numerous times) 2. Kong - Best of Kong (not considered PM by the team - but I think it is - it's in Prog Related, I've reviewed all their albums but one and wrote a bio on them) 3. Kayo Dot - Dowsing Anemone in Copper Tongue (avant-garde metal that I think was easily the best record of 06) ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 12:01
Thanks for all the info guys
Regarding which Mindflow album to download, "Mind over body" is the best IMHO
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 12:09
No problem Greg. I guess I should really check into Mindflow seeing as that is the thread topic huh. ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 12:14
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Posted By: Swanhild
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 19:48
Aié? Ok, I will download that, thanks. =] But are not Mindflow only about "complexity", are they? ;-)
I do not know if they are all that like Pain of Salvation. Surely not at all like TPE, at least. As for Remedy Lane, I am not very keen at it, and know it less than TPE. Do not think Mindflow is that much like SFAM either, but here also I am not keen at SFAM (though I like DT very much).
That I also could hear. :-) As for the three PM albuns, I would consider albuns that helped to define the genre - and my list might not have, as could be expected, one album from Queensryche, one from FW and one from DT. Prom metal was getting around earlier than that, I think. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 03:20
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^ well, the vocals are really, really similar to what Gildenlöw did on Remedy Lane - not just the lead vocals, also the way the background vocals are constructed, and some of the intonation tricks the singer uses occasionally. It's not a bad thing - it works in the context of the album. But it prevents me from awarding them with really high ratings or proclaiming them as the next big prog band in one line with Dream Theater or Pain of Salvation. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Swanhild
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 06:35
This is fair enough. I can well see that there is still much to their work that is derived - and though that may serve as a beginning, every artist must become original in order to be among the great. |