Van der Graaf Generator line-up in 2007 tour
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Topic: Van der Graaf Generator line-up in 2007 tour
Posted By: Lizard_King
Subject: Van der Graaf Generator line-up in 2007 tour
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 13:14
everybody knows about this... but I just can't imagine how they will look live in concerts without David Jackson as trio: Hammill, Banton and Evans. In such line-up they are going to tour in 2007, yes? do you think the performance in general wont suffer becouse of that?
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 13:33
Jaxon isn't showing up in the reunion, so what else than Hammill, Banton and Evans are we to talk off?
oh, maybe Gordon too, he's in good relations with Hammill.
but maybe the material won't be of a violin specific role.
Jaxon not rejoicing is a sad news, overall, but I myself only expect Van Der Graaf Generator to keep sounding again.
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Posted By: proger
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 14:44
But why Jaxon wont going to the tour?
for its very sad because I know that I will not be able to see them fure sure, they will never come to israel...
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Posted By: The Acolyte
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 15:55
first of all, i would like to say hi to all the members and congratulate you for this great site, i just joined today and hope to contribute and receive a lot of information about this absolutely fabulous genre.
I think that the Jackson's absence is dramatic to the truly sound of VDGG...however, anyone who has the chance to go to their shows must do it! I am from Colombia, so you know...i don't have the slightest chance to see anybody...
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Posted By: eitandaniel
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 18:42
sure it won't be the same, as each of them contribute something unique to their sound, the thing is, what if we have preconcieved ideas about what we WANT them to sound like, well.. it sounds almost like a request to hear your favourite reocds played live- where is the adventure in that?
just as jazz musicians can play with others and bring different magic in different configurations, who says this particular line-up won't do its own thing? shall we keep our eyes closed and ears wide open says i....
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 19:49
Maybe they'll hook up with another great player. I cerainly wouldn't mind VdGG with Mel Collins, for example.
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Posted By: sm sm
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 20:08
rileydog22 wrote:
Maybe they'll hook up with another great player. I cerainly wouldn't mind VdGG with Mel Collins, for example. |
Exactly, perhaps Eddie Jobson or Mark Wood.
If there was a personality class with David and the other members, better to have the other 3 getting along and doing more touring/releasing recordings, than doing nothing.
I will check this site regularly to see if the are playing a vicinity nearby where I live, so I don't am able to get tickets before they sell out
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Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 07:32
I have got my ticket for the Liverpool gig
I am sure Banton will compensate with his keyboards
I saw them when they last played and they were outstanding!
I will let you know how it went on.
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Posted By: Lizard_King
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 09:58
the main point was that I can't imagine VdGG without saxophone and flute! Its like Jethro Tull without flute... As I understood no one wil repalce Jackson.
"Banton will compensate with his keyboards"? do you realy think so???
i'm going to try to see them in Poloand, because they wont tour in my country... but thats the fact that I'm afraid of and I dont wont to be very disappointed after that:)
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 10:05
I really don't think that VDGG would be touring if they weren't confident of putting on a great show, yes their sound will be different due to the lack of sax but that should make everything more interesting.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 11:27
proger wrote:
But why Jaxon wont going to the tour?
for its very sad because I know that I will not be able to see them fure sure, they will never come to israel... |
neither to Argentina
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 12:38
Lizard_King wrote:
the main point was that I can't imagine VdGG without saxophone and flute! Its like Jethro Tull without flute...
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Remember The Aerosol Grey Machine?
el bЖthy wrote:
proger wrote:
But why Jaxon wont going to the tour?
for its very sad because I know that I will not be able to see them fure sure, they will never come to israel... |
neither to Argentina
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...yes... 
*begins to think of emigration to Poland...*
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Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 13:30
"Aerosol" did have flute.. Chap called Jeff Peach.
"Quiet Zone" had no flutes or sax and was a fantastic album.
I will let you folk know how it went on , and also what their new songs are like.
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Posted By: elpprogster
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 14:23
Are VDGG "going ELP?"
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 14:37
Frippertron wrote:
"Aerosol" did have flute.. Chap called Jeff Peach. -- This fact is very well known. The album was mentioned as an example of how does VdGG sound without Jackson. Compare also with "Gog".
"Quiet Zone" had no flutes or sax and was a fantastic album. -- It has a sax on it. But this VdG is different, this one has a violin.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 14:39
elpprogster wrote:
Are VDGG "going ELP?"  |
Hopefully, they aren't (speaking of music).
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Posted By: Lizard_King
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 15:00
Fassbinder wrote:
Frippertron wrote:
"Aerosol" did have flute.. Chap called Jeff Peach. -- This fact is very well known. The album was mentioned as an example of how does VdGG sound without Jackson. Compare also with "Gog".
"Quiet Zone" had no flutes or sax and was a fantastic album. -- It has a sax on it. But this VdG is different, this one has a violin.
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I don't say that Jackson is irreplaceable, I say that sax and flut is.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 15:06
That's the point -- the debut album doesn't sound like an album with a sax (as the "classic" VdGG albums do).
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 15:58
well, I am going to see them in Poland (the tickets for my chosen venue are not available yet, but I keep thumb on a pulse). Of course I will be missing Jaxon (my number 2 in VDGG) but those of you who saw Peter Hammill live or even on video know that he is awesome playing VDGG material with only his piano. And we are going to see TWO such brilliant musicians with him. If you want to hear studio sound, which is grand nevertheless, just listen to studio albums. VDGG studio sound is impossible to emulate on stage, imagine Jaxon playing flute and sax at the same time and two Peters Hammills singing!!
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 17:29
I think reading between the lines of PH's last newsletter that he got
very pissed off with Jaxon, something to do with jaxon talking to the
press and crappy classic-rock rip off DVDs is what I heard.
I am sure they can fill the void left by jaxon easily. Lets face it,
Hugh Banton doesn't have much to do; he only plays the keyboards with
his hands and bass with his feet. He could easily play sax as well.
I can't wait to see them as a trio and already have tickets for Cambridge, wolverhampton, liverpool, leicester and Barbican.
Long live the generator yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Posted By: Wobbler
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 18:12
I`m going to see the in Kraków in Poland  I also have tickets. I can`t wait... This is my favourite band. If Peter Hammill is singing like he did in Prague (14.11.2006) then it will be my the best gig I have ever been... even without Jaxson
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 21:56
Since VDGG are one of my favorite bands ever I hope they come to Florida. That would be amazing.
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 22:00
The Wizard wrote:
Since VDGG are one of my favorite bands ever I hope they come to Florida. That would be amazing. |
Have they ever been to the U.S.?
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Posted By: Lizard_King
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 05:57
RaphaelT wrote:
well, I am going to see them in Poland (the tickets for my chosen venue are not available yet, but I keep thumb on a pulse). |
You are going to Bydgoscz? That's were I'm goin too, but i'm afraid that there wont be posibility to buy tickets on-line from other country. I'm from Lithuania. If you now anything about this (where, how, when tickets will be available) write me PM, I would be grateful!
Sorry for OT.
RaphaelT wrote:
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course I will be missing Jaxon (my number 2 in VDGG) but those of you
who saw Peter Hammill live or even on video know that he is awesome
playing VDGG material with only his piano. And we are going to see TWO
such brilliant musicians with him. If you want to hear studio sound,
which is grand nevertheless, just listen to studio albums. VDGG studio
sound is impossible to emulate on stage, imagine Jaxon playing flute
and sax at the same time and two Peters Hammills singing!! |
Well, I was watching VdGG Rockpalast video (filmed in Leverkusen, Germany 2005) and if you eliminate Jackson from that show it loses half of its beauty. IMHO.
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Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 08:07
To the chappy who is going to Liverpool.. I will be sat in the front row with my buddy..
I cant wait... They are my favourite prog rock band, and "Pawn Hearts" is just amazing.. Hearing it for the first time in HMV (headphones.. they werent blasting it) was an experience in itself.. Especially with "Lighthouse.."
Yep.. Classic Rock Productions.. Keep well away from...
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 13:08
NutterAlert wrote:
I can't wait to see them as a trio and already have tickets for Cambridge, wolverhampton, liverpool, leicester and Barbican. |
I wish I could afford to go to that many gigs but I have got a front row ticket for the Wolverhampton gig so that should make up for not getting to go to any other gigs. 
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Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 13:12
I wont list the songs they do until the gigs are well and truly over.
Nothing worse than knowing their setlist.
I cant wait until the DVD comes out (please not on Classic Rock Productions though, I couldnt handle bad sound quality, and bad camera angles)
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 19:57
If we aren't gonna see the definitive H to He through Still Life lineup, how about if the band were to reunite the Vital lineup? It may not be the one that cut Pawn Hearts, Godbluff, etc., but it was a fantastic live band. And what better way to showcase Hammill's powerful voice than with a really, really powerful band?
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:19
But Vital line-up requires a violinist in it, at least... (not speaking already of a cello)...
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 21:11
Fassbinder wrote:
But Vital line-up requires a violinist in it, at least... (not speaking already of a cello)... |
That's what I'm saying. Hook up with Graham Smith or Stuart Gordan, Nic Potter, and the Cellist of your choice. Plug in, hit the fuzzbox, and turn it up!
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Posted By: Filoh
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 11:45
Does any Slovak or Czech go in this concert? Im from Slovakia and I dont want to go alone. I want to go in VDGG concert in Krakow(22.04.2007). Where did you buy tickets in this concert?I dont want to buy it late, it would be my nightmare! Thx for answers...
Wobbler- I think so! I was in Prague (14.11.06) and he was phantastic, Stuart Gordon too. He still sings like a GOD.
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Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 09:06
bluetailfly wrote:
Have they ever been to the U.S.? |
Only once, a sold-out concert at New York's 2,000 seat Beacon Theater on October 18, 1976.
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Posted By: Filoh
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 16:57
Is here anybody from Slovakia or Czech Republic who goes to VDGG concert in Krakow? I dont want to go alone and Im affraid that when I decided to go there, tickets will be gone!
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