Unnecessary, Long drawn out Noise...
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Topic: Unnecessary, Long drawn out Noise...
Posted By: -Radioswim-
Subject: Unnecessary, Long drawn out Noise...
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 09:23
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I'm sure you all have those utterly boring moments of long drawn out sessions of "noise" that you just wish a band would take out of a song, becuase it feels "Unnecessary".
I think The Mars Volta take the cake for me, That 3 and a half minute session of birds chirping and that strange whining sound, sounds cool for like a minute, then it just annoys me, and I end up skipping to where the music starts to slow down, speed up, then the trumpet comes in. That part is brilliantly done, but is that first 3.5 minutes of "noises" necessary? Couldn't it have just been 1 minute? I think it still would have been just as effective. (I am talking of the Song "Maranda the Ghost just isn't holy anymore: Vade Mecum") Also, there is an entire song of ... seemingly non-collaborative sounds. I mean the song doesn't even START to make sense until the last 40 seconds or so of the song. I am speeking of the song entitled "Cassandra Gemini: Famine Pulse" I swear there is some brilliant sessions and moments in Frances the Mute, but all in all there is just tons of "filler" that just doesn't seem neccesary. I don't remember de-loused having all that filler.  Anyways, is there any songs/albums that you guys think has too much "filler", or pointless "noise" sessions that just didn't need to be in the song/album. If so! I'd love to hear about it! I love to critique music.  Edit- I'm sorry I just have to add something, cause I keep hearing all this great stuff about the "last tracks of the album" being soooo brilliant, songs entitled "Cassandra Gemini", but its some of the most boring stuff TMV have ever written, is there like a different release that I missed out on? I bought the album like the first week it was out. AM I MISSING OUT?@?!?! I've always noticed that my frances the mute album doesnt seem "Whole" Here is my track listing for it, tell me if I have something wrong with it 01 - Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: A. Sarcophagi/B. Umbilical Syllables/C. Facilis Descenus Averni/D. Con Safo 13:02 02 - The Widow 5:50 03 - L'Via L'Viaquez 12:21 04 - Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Vade Mecum 13:09 05 - Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Pour Another Icepick 4:45 06 - Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Pisacis (Phra-Men-Ma) 6:40 07 - Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Con Safo 2:55 08 - Cassandra Geminni: Tarantism 7:41 09 - Cassandra Geminni: Plant A Nail In The Navel Stream 4:59 10 - Cassandra Geminni: Faminepulse 3:48 11 - Cassandra Geminni: Multiple Spouse Wounds 0:46 12 - Cassandra Geminni: Sarcophagi 0:54
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 09:25
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Possibly Moonchild will get a mention? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 09:37
| ItCotCK???? Moonchild? KING CRIMSON? moonchild? |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 09:45
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I find The Mars Volta a hard band to get to grips with. The melodies are often hard to find- there does seem to be a lot of self-indulgence on their albums, but yes, some very fine moments of musicianship too. I was thrown by that tracklisting as well though...
The band I feel fits this category for me personally was Henry Cow- I had 'Leg End' and simply couldn't bear it, I felt it even more strongly about their live side on the 'Greasy Truckers- Live At Dingwalls' album.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 09:46
No mention of Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue yet! I guess The T must be asleep....
p.s. Personally I love DAWCT...but then I like noise anyway  ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 09:54
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Title track from How To Measure A Planet from The Gathering is drawn out twaddle.
And what about the 20+ minute "silence" in the Devil Doll album / track The Girl Who Was ... Death  ...the rest of it is excellent, though!------------- "Without prog, life would be a mistake." ...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:08
| Actually, your right, I don't get that album, I just don't get it, how was it voted top Prog album of 2006? Amputechture was a much more complete sounding album |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:12
There were A LOT 2006 albums better than those two...  ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
-Radioswim- wrote:Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:13
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Genesis - The Waiting Room
Hit the skip button.... ------------- 
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:16
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If the artist or band chose to include such sections on their albums then they're necessary. ;P just not necessarily good the sounds on Frances have got strange textures and variations, I think it's interesting enough. and excuse me for asking, but... where's the noise on Dowsing Anemone or in Moonchild? all I can hear are very calm, minimal variations - or in "___ On Limpid Form"'s case, the only reason why the album can be considered metal at all. =P ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: Lofcaudio
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:25
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King Crimson is guilty of this, though it may not necessarily be "noise", but it sure seems like a waste of time to me. Obviously, Moonchild is the first to come to mind, but Talking Drum also fits the bill. The first few minutes of Talking Drum are...what? Maybe animals can hear what is going on, but my ears sure don't hear much of anything.
Pink Floyd with the Psychadelic Breakfast and Seamus.
Rush with the Vapor Trails album. (Ha!)
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Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:28
Agreed...
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:39
 Asking for trouble, huh?-------------
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:48
Actually its first three minutes are rather boring and annoying, but when the instruments build in in the last two minutes it becomes an interesting instrumental piece. I particularly love the way the drum pattern shifts from 12/8 to 4/4 at 4'45". What about Pink Floyd's Careful with that axe Eugene or Quicksilver? Or - even worse - The Grand Vizier's Garden Party and Sysyphus? I agree on the lat 9 minutes of KC's Moonchild being less than forgettable, but also some more recent effort of theirs like THRAK's title track or Industry really put my patience to the test. ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: tdbark
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 11:34
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When I bought the cassette version of PF's "Pulse", I found that side two of cassette two had the three encores followed by barnyard noises for the last twenty minutes or so of tape space..... They could have included outtakes or bonus material, but no... ducks and geese and sheep................. ------------- Twenty men crossing a bridge into a village, are twenty men crossing twenty bridges into twenty villages. Wallace Stevens |
Posted By: Balthe
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:39
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Camel - The Hour Candle comes to mind, with its final 17 minutes of ocean sounds. Marillion - This Strange Engine else features 16 minutes of absolutely nothing, ending with Hogarth laughing. I must admit my disappoint was huge, expecting a 30-minute epic, and getting just a 15-minute one :P
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 13:47
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Well, Godspeed you! Black Emperor does a lot of strange noises in some of their songs (Eas hastings, Providence, Static, Antennas to Heaven), and most of these parts i used to skip. Until one day. All the noise just clicked, and i began to think that the noise-parts were so atmospheric that i actually began thinking that they were as good as the "music" itself. It's just so dark and atmospheric, that it really draws you in and, despite nog being "music" makes you feel. Not very good, though, so if you're a very happy person, i can see how you could think that it's unnecessary noise.. So how about the Mars Volta.. no, i can't really say that i like their sonic experiments as much, no. It's much too computerized and sterile compared to, for example, Gy!be and it doesn't really make me think about much else than computers and mixing tables. I do, however, consider Cassandra Gemini a noiseless song, and the only noise on FTM for me is between the songs preceeding it. ------------- 
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:01
I like "unnecessary long drawn out noise"  It adds an element of mind boggling to it while you try to figure out what is actually going on. Ambient noise is one of the things I look for when buying albums. For instance I happen to love Frances the Mute. It is beautiful to my ears, and I can't exactly explain why. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:20
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I like my "noise" in Frances The Mute, it really adds to the concept of the album and the feel of it as a whole.
------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 15:13
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Ok, time to say The Truth... have you noticed that The T and The Truth have the same first letters? It's obvious.... I just noticed but I think is a logical cosmical coincidence...
Well, of course The Mars Volta have a couple sections we could remove without damaging the songs (actually improving some of them)... a very good band, could be even better... I cannot talk about post-rock here because, even though they have minutes and minutes and minutes of same stuff all over again, usually they are harmonic and not noisy....(now interesting or boring is another matter)... What else, what else...too many modern bands rely on noise too much, but it's ok if it's not done till death...BUT...
...of course, the kings of the unnecesary, long drawn NOISE, my candidates for the Guiness record of "longest "musical" section that doesn't change a bit" , 14 minutes of pure glory, _on a limpid form, the peak of the "repetition art".... KD. No one even comes close.... and they are so good at this, in the last song of the album (the next one after the legendary 4th song) they almost accomplish the feat of doing it for the second time in a row! So they are my candidates for this award....
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 15:19
| Yea I agree.... __ On Limpid Form has that really, really repetitive 13 or 14 minutes that lasts until the end of the song that just keeps going, it just seems like noise keeps getting added on top of it as it progresses through the song. It's really disappointing too, I thought the first 4 or 5 minutes weren't too bad.... I think the band has potential though, they just need to use it. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 15:26
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*smacks forehead*
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 15:50
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Merzbow. Haha. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 15:52
Yeah, I wish my version had that "oops moment." It was corrected on later versions of the album , I believe. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:06
Be careful...
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:24
| The mid section of Echoes is Tedious. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:27
Merzbow is good music!  Especially if you are going to bed, it somehow relaxes me. |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:29
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Some parts of Frances the Mute , "Moonchild" King Crimson
begining of "Guinivere" by Rick Wakeman
"Future Days" CAN (amamzing song though, I can tolerate it)
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:29
Best bit.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:33
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^I agree the middle section of Echoes is what makes it one of my favorite PF songs. I enjoy all the ambient parts on Frances The Mute, and enjoy oonchild though to a lesser extent. Dowsing Anemone is a masterpiece in my book But I am a huge fan of avant garde, even pure "noise" music like Merzbow and Wolf Eyes. So if you're one of those who can't live without structure and melody I can understand your dislike for this kind of stuff. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:38
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I prefer long drawn out noise over ridiculous instrumental self-indulgence sometimes. I recently discovered that the band Current 93 used to do different kinds of music than their "apocalyptic folk". It is also surprisingly good. ------------- sig |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:17
Noise was cooler in older stuff, when you had to put in effort to make it. Now, I could create a 20 min noise session in like 5 min with my comp. I'm exaggerating,but still its been cheapened by technology. But to be honest, I prefer music. The only noise I ever really liked (IE, It did not go on for too long and start to annoy me) was in the middle of PK's Totus Nemesis.
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Posted By: Aerandir
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:33
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hehe The mid part of First Light from Shadow Gallery ------------- That which doesn't kill you, postpones the inevitable |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:51
The whole song is a masterpiece, especially the middle. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:54
You have to listen to his 1930 release. Sphere is pop in comparison. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Derraine
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:17
Yes, Frances the Mute has caused quite a lot of musical controversy, with most people seeming to have, in particular, a strong opinion on the ambient sections one way or the other, but for fear of sounding pedantic, I would say that it is wrong to refer to those ambient sections, even if you don't like them, as filler.
In completing Frances the Mute, the Mars Volta had anything but space to fill. We're talking here about an album that's over an hour and a quarter in length, from which a track had to be dropped because there was no room for it (we get the five who grew but not the one that was dead, as it were). If anything, it would have made Mr. Rodriguez-Lopez's job a lot easier if he'd stripped the album down, to complete the concept more succinctly. We can only conclude, therefore, that he makes the listener sit through 3 and-a-half minutes of ambient noise because he fells it is important that the listener sit through 3 and-a-half minutes of ambient noise. Whether the effect moves you or not is another matter. ------------- Witness the man who raves at the wall! |
Posted By: Bt-Tor
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 19:30
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I agree, I think Frances the Mute could have been almost ten minutes shorter. Besides the "filler' I think it has some great moments. Overall a good, but flawed album. I also agree with Moonchild as being a bit excessive in the uninspired improvisation. Despite the atmospheric, almost stygian first three minutes, the reamaing nine minutes are definitely the low point of ITCOTCK, really impeding the flow of the album. |
Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 21:41
| My Vote Goes to "Providence" Track 4 Red...... |
Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:24
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Tool's Disgustipated. I like that it's track 69 though, pretty funny. The part where Maynard is all "This.. is.. necessary..." is freaking great (I love listening to Danny's kick drum during that part). But.... I know what crickets sound like. I don't need the 10 minutes (or whatever) of track space to remind me. Like The Beatles, I appreciate it, but never listen to it. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:27
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Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:42
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I have to completely disagree with this topic. I enjoy the ambient sections of songs a ton. I even listen to music that IS ambient. Music like Bass Communion (Steve Wilson) and such. I find it almost more interesting that a lot of other music. I even like to listen to the ambient stations on Itunes cause they play some good stuff. it sounds very cool through headphones. I dunno, it might just be that my tastes differ from many of yours, but whatever. Actually, i think it is that my tastes differ. Again though, whatever. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:47
 I had the same experience. I started to actually listen to the "noise" in their songs until one day I "got" it. It was a huge turning point for me because up to that point I was only interested in virtuosity and great musicianship, but after listening to GY!BE I found that there's so much more than just listening to the instruments being played. This is one of the reasons why I love GY!BE so much. I wouldn't be listening to more than a half of what I listen to now.------------- 
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 00:28
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zeit largo in 4 mvts by TD ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 01:15
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Yes - Close to the Edge, the first minute is absolutely horrible ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 03:21
Oh I will! |
Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 03:23
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Does "unnecessary, long drawn out noise..." apply to endless repetion and sonic noodling? If so, would anyone agree that some Zappa fits the bill? For instance "The Purple Lagoon"...
Or how about some John McLaughlin? I recently watched a DVD of John, Paco Delucia, and Larry Coreall in which they played solos over a two chord vamp for God only knows how long. I was nodding off.
Or how about Todd Rundgren? Can anyone beat an ending to death like that guy? Don't get me wrong. I love Todd. I've seen him in concert 7 times (with and without Utopia), but crap, that guy could beat an ending to death!
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Posted By: SigzLV596
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:36
| About an hour of fantomas's Delirium Corida, including the last 20 where all it is is static. |
Posted By: moebius
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 10:19
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Have you ever listened "music for children" by John Zorn???
I dare you to not press the skip button.
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Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:10
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OK...didn't read all 3 pages....not sure if Nektar was mentioned.....
I only know 2 tracks by them..."The 9 Lifeless Daughters of the Sun," which I like quite a bit, and "Warp Oversight" which just sounds like random noises to me....what am I missing there....? ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:17
I LOVE that part...It sounds like chaos at first, but it is really intricate and composed upon further listens, then the bring in those "ahhhhhhs" just to let everyone know they know exactly what they are doing.... ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:51
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I've only heard Frances the Mute a couple of times and didn't actually notice all these filler/ambient/noise parts. But I like AMM, Musica Elettronica Viva, Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music... ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:48
Well, Agalloch's Ashes Against The Grain has one track that is 6:00 minutes of pure static noise....very good... -------------
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 16:40
I'm sorry, but even though I like KD a lot (even Amaranth the Peddler), and I'm getting more avant-garde (I actually like Henry Cow now), the end of ___On Limpid Form is BORING. I enjoy the first part very much, but about halfway to 3/4 of the way through the song I can't take the repetition anymore (I don't like repetition) and skip to the end or Amaranth.
I find some of the answers here very interesting...CWTAE is one of Floyd's best songs.
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 18:57
Damn!! you just read my mind!!!!!
A lot of those avant-Garde prog bands are very useless in humble my opinion, They are just making noise !!!------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 19:02
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 20:20
You can get more avant-garde, but if you don't have a soft spot for minimalism you won't enjoy it. I honestly don't like negative threads like this one, but I just can't help but be amazed as to what people say in this kind of threads. -------------
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 23:31
| i do try my best to appreciate or respect an individual song/track or album for what it is as it is presented. But guess i've also had moments of "they could've removed 3 tracks" or "that song cldve been shorter to be more effective" etc etc etc......... |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 06:18
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 11:12
Yep. I appreciate their unique manner and their out-of-the-row attitude, but I'd like to hear some music, if you won't mind. That's why I still can't get the genre fully |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 11:49
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I suppose there are bound to be people who don't want songs to be longer than three minutes. And people who want a verse-chorus-verse structure. And people who like to whistle a happy tune. And then there are those who prefer not to limit what the possibilities can be, who have removed their blinkers. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 12:15
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I've just edited MARS VOLTA's "Frances the Mute" (the song) from these pointless noises which annoy me.I've made a 4'45" track from a 14+ one. I think next time I should edit the whole album and recieve 5 minutes of song from a 70-min long album.
It depends on what you like in music. I like melodies and emotionality. I can't find both in such an experimental stuff like Avant Prog/Avant Rock. Hence it'll never be a major genre for me to stuck on. Sad but true |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 13:41
 Frances the Mute contains a lot of random and boring noise, but that's not an excuse to rearrange the music how you like, just because you happen to dislike some of it. It's very arrogant and disrespectful to the artists. |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 15:20
I agree with him. I like The mars Volta a lot, and do think that France is very self indulgent, but I won't do that. I might fast forward the song s that I don't like, but i won't edit or make a my own version of the songs. Believe me in a few years you will want to listen the whole album the way it is. trust me. ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 16:18
Agree... DD repeats the same sh*t on SACRILEGIUM and Red Sparowes did the same in "The Sixth Extinction Crept Up Slowly, Like Sunlight Through the Shutters, as We Looked Back in Regret"... almost five minutes of silence that kills a great album-... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 16:20
I don't agree that it's disrespectful to the artist. Music is supposed to be enjoyable for the listener, and if you find the music most enjoyable in a version you edited together, then that's perfectly fine. Don't try to pass it off as your own work, but editing a piece for personal use is perfectly fine. It's the same as programming a CD player to skip certain songs, only it happens within the pieces. ------------- |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 16:29
I've made an edit version, but saved it in another folder. The full version left in "The Widow(single)" folder, don't worry much guys 
I like VOLTA's debut concise style, and that's it. Considering minutes of silence - recently freed RADIOHEAD's "Motion Picture Soundtrack" and MARILLION's "This Strange Engine" (from my MP3 archives) from this silence |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 16:34
True. I never could accept minimalism very much; I like spacey music, although my development of tinnitus has diminished that, but I have difficulty seeing the same riff repeated 50 times as anything more than just laziness.
But then we wouldn't be able to know who has bad taste! ;-)
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 19:07
Why is listening to what he wants to arrogant? And it's a lot more respectful to the artists if he listens to those 5 minutes than if he listens to nothing by them ------------- 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 23:47
Indeed. The same thing happened in the Prog Sins thread... I really should stop and just let things be. I mean, I won't change the opinions of others just by complaining... Or can I?  -------------
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 04:16
I agree totally. If I only like certain tracks on an album, I don't feel it's disrespectful to the artist to skip the the ones you don't like. And if I only want to listen to the first three minutes of Moonchild, what's wrong with that? ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 09:40
Ah yeah...thanks for reminding me...another would-be victim of edition... 
I've already got the "Edits" folder - few TMV tracks, few DT tracks, even few GYBE ones. Now it's time to cut Classics! 
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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 09:52
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Well, I'll admit to editing out certain language from some songs to allow radio airplay. You must protect the kids who may be listening if you want to play some tracks in radio prime time on community radio. It's the rules!
Edited or beeped out, either way it is not as the artist intended but gets the artist some airplay that might just lead to another sale or two to help fill the royalty jar. ------------- "Without prog, life would be a mistake." ...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 13:45
How about umagumma. It does need a lot editing especially the studio cd don't you think?  ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 15:43
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Guess no one else finds Nektar's "Warp Oversight" noisy? ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 16:13
Moonchild is what i like to call
some really interesting original music
that i'm loveing at the moment -------------  
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 16:36
| Blane from Egg's debut. Its a tone generator solo. I like it a lot but some might find it to be noise. |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: March 31 2007 at 08:25
Without a doubt! Also, Walter Carlos on his 'Clockwork Orange' soundtrack album. The first side is the same type of 'Moonchild' gibberish (maybe inspired by Moonchild?)...
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: March 31 2007 at 12:00
| King Crimson |
Posted By: coleio
Date Posted: March 31 2007 at 12:32
The end of 'Blood Mountain' by Mastodon, the last track is about 22 minutes long, it consists of about 5 minutes of music followed by complete silence except in the last 20 seconds where Josh Homme delivers an attempt at a humourous message... not cool.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 31 2007 at 13:58
Nope. My favorite PF album as it is  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: April 02 2007 at 17:10
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Can only be Genesis, Tony Blair and my post vindaloo flatulence in church on Sunday morning (Sorry padre).
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Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: April 03 2007 at 05:36
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That's when my love for the mars volta dissipated, when I had completely exhausted de-loused and I realised after about the 5th listen when I put my fanboyism aside that frances sucked and had about half an hour worth of boring noise. And moonchild on ITCOTCK is bollocks, that's not music it's just art w**k, I don't really care if it's before it's time because it's not good at any time. ------------- 
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 03 2007 at 05:40
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: April 03 2007 at 12:32
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