Genesis vs. Yes
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Topic: Genesis vs. Yes
Posted By: proghairfunk
Subject: Genesis vs. Yes
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:45
| In light of the recent "changing of the guard" with sebtp passing ctte on the pa top albums, I ask: Should it have? Or is ctte the true champion. As for my opinion, i believe both are 5 star albums, but that ctte has something that sebtp does not. Comments please. |
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 10:49
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One of these polls springs up every time that happens... To tell the truth, I don't think either belong anywhere near the prog top 50, especially not SEBTP (CTTE does come somewhat close). But I won't vote because this thread is redundant (I'll admit it, I started my own once, way back when... but I've learned since then -- or maybe the two weeks in prison with mad axe murderers reformed me...) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 11:20
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Selling England By The Pound is one of the best Prog albums ever. So that getas my vote. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:08
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I don't know how an album like SEBTP can carry 5 stars and compared to.CTTE
With songs like ''I know what i like'', ''more fool me'' or the disastrous ''battle of Epping..''
with the riidiculous part ''picnic... picnic'' , its 'half of the album that stinks.
The other half is great, but a half doesn't make 5 stars
This is not liking an album, it's pure idolatry or fanaticism
 by Genesis fans. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:09
No it isn't. I strongly object to your view! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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febus wrote:Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:11
Close To The Edge 
Selling England by the Pound .5
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Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:12
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SEBTP for me, but it's tight
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:14
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Selling England by the Pound, no contest.
CTTE is brilliant as well, but not nearly as great as SEBTP. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! http://www.last.fm/music/Exerior" rel="nofollow - EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway! |
Posted By: Alius
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:18
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Close To The Edge 100/100
Selling England By The Pound 95/100
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:19
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Selling England By The Pound. E ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:21
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:22
| Not being a Yes fan, I did listen to the album. Not my favorite. Selling gets my vote. |
Posted By: Nowhere Man
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:30
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SEBTP is good, but I couldn't really get into it like I could with CTTE.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:35
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Selling England by the Pound ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:42
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This poll means no more than: 'Which of these two is your favourite band?' And here we go again! Some people cannot stand Jon Anderson's voice. Others will think Howe is a more imaginative guitarist than Hackett. Yet others will prefer Tony Banks' keyboard solos to Rick Wakeman's. There may even be some blessed souls who think "More fool me" tips the balance in favour of Genesis! Well I REFUSE to vote.  In my opinion both of these are gorgeous albums. I simply don't see the point of questionnaires like: "Who's greater - Bach or Handel?" I've got no problem loving both - and quite a few others besides!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:50
I agree.
But Its not a genesis versus Yes Poll. Not for me anyway. I voted SEBTP, but Yes are my prefered band. If it had come up against Relayer I would have voted for that. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:51
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SEBTP ****1/2 CTTE **** SEBTP because it holds a special, personal place in my heart....aaaah!  -------------  Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 12:57
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I think I have to go with Close to The Edge here -------------   |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 13:20
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While Selling England is a great album, Close to the edge is the perfection made music so, no competition here...
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:07
By which criteria? Don't forget that SELLING ENGLAND contains AT LEAST 15 minutes more music than CTTE! 
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Posted By: seamus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:09
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:13
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By which criteria? Don't forget that SELLING ENGLAND contains AT LEAST 15 minutes more music than CTTE! 
we woould get rid if these extra 15mns with ''i know what i like'' ''more fool me'' and ''the battle'' ,would have been a great album
Quantity doesn't mean quality!
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:24
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Close to the Edge BY FAR.
If Genesis was represented by Foxtrot or Nursery Cryme things would be a lot more difficult.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:28
exactly..... every song on Close to the Edge was a classic. Still in rotation in concert set lists and in peoples players 35 years later. If Suppers Ready had been fit into SEBTP in place of weaker material... this could have been a draw. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 14:39
I happen to agree with you as I find these songs weak. However, I feel that both of these albums could do with some serious editing. Close to the Edge has too much "noodling' for me (the songs would have worked better had they been tighter).. Ultimately, these albums are tied for me. Both are good albums, but neither album would make my top fifty favourites -- despite loving individual songs off these albums.. ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Fight Club
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 15:43
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Close to the Edge ------------- 
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 15:50
| I voted Selling England. Although there getting close as Close to the Edge is rising in my favorite list. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:12
| Selling England by the Pound |
Posted By: trilogy58
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:21
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When I was in high school, the school radio station came on each evening from 7 to 10. Dave Sattler, DJ, played And You And I one night. My musical life changed. Ever since that Thursday night, CTTE has been the standard bearer for prog. Hands down. Thanks Dave! ------------- Music is serious business. Enjoy it! |
Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:23
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SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND.
surely CTTE is more difficult, but more boring too..... jon anderson voice´s sometimes creeping me out.... and the lyrics.. SEBTP by far, CTTE contains some weak poetry..... For me, in conclution, SEBTP is more enjoyable than CTTE ------------- you and whose army? |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:26
Iv've always been baffled why people rate SEBTP so highly
CTTE is far superior in every department.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:27
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Let's get a few things straight. 1. There is absolutely no "noodling" on CLOSE TO THE EDGE. It's a compact masterpiece. Every note counts. 2. Of course quality is more important than quantity. But many people (all those in voted in favour of the album!) seem to believe that SELLING contains more highlights than EDGE. 3. "I know what I like" is a delightful ditty, and "Epping Forest" may lack the epic quality of "Firth of Fifth" but it is a hugely entertaining mini-opera! Voila, I have spoken. 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:30
| I prefer CTTE, slightly. However, I still reserve the right to listen to both albums whenever I want. |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:46
| Selling England, all the way. Although, I think that Foxtrot should be #1, and would prefer SEBTP to CTTE. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 19:42
I guess you don't have the extendamix version. ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 21:36
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SEBTP has too many flaws ie, More Fool Me, Gabriels vox, boring keyboard solo's & an attempt at a pop song.
Whereas CTTE is flawless from beginning to end
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 01:21
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Close to the Edge is a 3.5 - 4 star album at best Selling England by the Pound is almost a 5 star album ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 09:40
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Close to the edge ! ------------- 
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 12:06
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SEBTP for me. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:33
Since I arrived, these two albums have traded places like 10 times... and each one of those times we had a poll exactly like this one! ... But I'm not the one to reject the chance to say it again.... That's more likt it...CTTE is magnificent but a little cold for me... SEBTP, though not the best Genesis album, has the best Genesis song, Firth of Fifth, with the instrumental part of all instrumental parts...only for that, so long CTTE!! ------------- 
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Posted By: Kill Fede
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 12:19
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I'm still dancing with the moonlit knight
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 22:24
| I love to break ties! Let's do it once more XD. CTTE |
Posted By: Allu
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 15:22
I prefer Close to the Edge, but then again... somehow I also prefer Nursery Cryme to Selling England By The Pound 
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 16:16
| SEBTP. CTTE is not unpleasant, but it doesn't have anything very impressive, except for the keyboard solo on Siberian Khatru. Yes probably consists of the better musicians, but there are only select few moments on Yes's albums that actually make me realize this. For example, Bill Bruford is most likely better than Phil Collins, but I didn't know that from listening to CTTE, where he drums like he's reading music. |
Posted By: stechell
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 16:38
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Mmmm, SEBTP great album, great band, but CTTE gorgeous album and best band ever...CTTE
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Posted By: blaughida
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 18:15
Indeed, CTTE is certainly not unpleasant, but it fails to particularly move or interest me. SEBTP's uninteresting moments include an individual song, which makes this weakness stand out, but overall the album holds my interest far more than CTTE. I find a good deal of CTTE rather boring, though it may be technically brilliant, and I definitely prefer the album that has many wonderful moments with a much smaller number of lows to that. |
Posted By: schlaack
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 20:24
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Close to the Edge, definitely! I'd have more trouble choosing between Foxtrot and Close to the Edge, but I've just never really liked Selling England by the Pound. |