Dream Theater "Systematic Chaos" Revealed
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Topic: Dream Theater "Systematic Chaos" Revealed
Posted By: LionHeart03
Subject: Dream Theater "Systematic Chaos" Revealed
Date Posted: April 04 2007 at 21:52
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Wow nice cover of the album
 Im so excited! cant wait for the album!   Progressive metal pioneers Dream Theater have revealed the cover artwork for their new album, "Systematic Chaos", due in June via Roadrunner Records. Check it out at http://www.mendolaart.com/webout/63/2373-main.jpg - this location .
"This album's got all of the elements we've become known for," reveals drummer Mike Portnoy, who co-produced the CD with guitarist John Petrucci (Paul Northfield engineered and mixed the effort). "The focus on musicianship, the skull-crushing riffs, the big progressive epics and the heart-wrenching melodies. We've got one of the strongest and most devoted fan bases in the world, and they should certainly be happy with the new material." The disc sports seven new songs, one of which runs 25 minutes. "Systematic Chaos" track listing, according to http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=69850 - Blabbermouth.net :
01. In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 1 (9:00) Dream Theater had spent its entire career on Elektra and Atlantic, an arrangement that ended with the 2005 studio album "Octavarium". According to Billboard.com, The group has sold 2.1 million CDs in the United States since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking data in 1991. (Info from http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ - http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ ) |
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 04 2007 at 21:59
Wow, only 2.1 million records since 1991. 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 04 2007 at 22:27
that cant be right, I remember reading it where more ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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stonebeard wrote:Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 00:01
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I can't believe Hugh Syme created such an ugly cover. I'd say he's
losing his touch, but the recent work he did for Rush is fantastic. But I suppose don't judge a book by its cover applies here. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: theBox
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 02:49
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I think that the cover art is Fantastic! I have given up on dream
theater since.....well since "images and words" actually but the 25
minute epic on octavarium was a turn in the right direction....we can
only hope!!!
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 03:11
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the cover reminds me of recent Crimson covers a bit ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 04:28
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I'm not a DT fan at all but I like the cover, except for that little crest thing, that looks really lame, it's basically the same as the dead kennedys' one.
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Posted By: mcxwell
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 04:49
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don't really like the cover. (what are big ants doing in the city??) hmm, is this going to be a concept album? ------------- There is no Best, just DIfferent.. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 06:50
| ugly cover and split epic...I'm already sceptic |
Posted By: evenless
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 07:59
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Systematic Chaos?
Funny, that's exactly how I would describe DT's music.  ------------- Evenless |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 08:23
The split epic worked fine for Pink Floyd ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 08:43
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Excellent cover, great looking album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 10:19
As well as the The Flower Kings! -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 10:29
| I quite like the cover art. I hope it's not TOO heavy, but otherwise this looks pretty promising. I'll check it out for sure. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 10:30
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Who cares about the cover,the music is all that matters!!!! -------------  |
Posted By: Yito
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 11:25
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The name Systematic Chaos sound like a Megadeth album and the cover looks like a Marillion album. ------------- Psalm 96 1 Sing to the LORD a new song; sing to the LORD, all the earth. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 11:29
For me a good album cover is like the icing on the cake ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 12:18
Ok, just preordered the album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 13:37
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The cover is, well, ugly.
Damn
 The music will probably pwn though ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: LionHeart03
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:05
Well i think the cover is awesome it reminds me of Pink Floyd's Animals cover and i know its going to be a great Dream Theater album! Cant wait for June!!!!! 
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:34
I'm right with you Progtologist, but you and I both know by now that many people on this site are not content unless they can take people's creativity and express displeasure with it. If someone creates something from nothing and dares to call it art, to many people that is only a way to open themselves up to being dismissed or worse, ridiculed. It makes them feel important, as if their opinion is so refined and high-brow that if they haven't been appointed supreme critic of all, by gum, they should be. To them, most people should not even try to create. This most often is not a conscience choice. It is how society works anymore and many people are conditioned to have these types of reactions. In a world of political correctness where many people try and put a shiny veneer on all things, life is still about survival of the fittest. If you are not the best, you lose. There are so many meaningless threads on PA to back this up. Which album/band/musician is better. The constant need to determine "the best." But you know what, in real life, I don't have to choose. I can listen to Pink Floyd one minute and Yes the next and be totally content. Maybe one is better than the other, but I can enjoy them both and not have to label one as "bad" and one as "good." Just live your life, take in what is around you and concentrate on things that are actually important. The release of this album cover artwork should not determine whether your life just got better or worse. Some person or people came up with the concept and created something that wasn't there yesterday. I say good for them. I single no one out with these feelings. It just seems fairly rampant around here on too many subjects. If the music disappoints you, by all means pass that along in a constructive manner. You paid for it (I hope) and are entitled. But please temper your feelings about artwork or album titles or individuals in their attempt to 1)create something for you to enjoy and 2)make a living while doing it. (I now step off my soapbox) ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:45
I was thinking the same, though maybe a bit more like a cross with Animals/Blackfield II. Nice artwork all the same, cant wait for the album to come out! ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:12
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[QUOTE=mcxwell](what are big ants doing in the city??)
QUOTE] Why are there two guys, on on fire, shaking hands on WYWH????? Why Is there a woman with a fox head on Foxtrot???? Why is there a flying pig on Animals??? Why is the earth falling apart on fragile????  Get used to prog rock art work my friend! It almost never makes perfect sense when you look at it alone! ------------- 
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Posted By: giantenemycrab
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 19:28
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You all are aware that there is already a "Systematic Chaos" thread, right? Looking forward to this and Kamelot's new work. |
Posted By: eriksalkeld
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:24
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I don't like the album's name nor the cover, specially the third ant on the floor, it just doesn't look good, some shading is missing imo. This cover is lame. I just wish this album is better than octavarium that one's maybe there worst album (but not really a bad one).
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:34
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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 20:15
I thought the same things. The colors are somewhat similar to the ones on Animals, and the pillars on DTs cover remind me on the factory pipes on Animals. Can't wait to hear the music! ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 22:47
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The only thing that I didn´t like very much was the length of the album
because usually albums that run for almost 80 minutes tend to be a
little too much. Not that it is too much music, but it is more
difficult to keep being interesting till the end. Anyway I hope it fits for my taste, since there are some that I like very much and others that I don´t like that much. |
Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 01:12
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The strange thing would be that the album didnt's cloks at 80 min. Dream Theater always make "full albums". ------------- We were always be much human than we whish to be. |
Posted By: lighthouse
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 06:17
Probably the best cover art Dream Theater have ever had , its not Eloy "Oceans" or Yes "Classic Yes" what this cover is about is just what the title of the CD conjures up I think we are in for a special Dream Theater effort here folks ! .. the cover art has the "vibe" about it 
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Posted By: AcostaFulano
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 22:32
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I like the cover.... Kinda reminds me of "I ROBOT" by alan parsons... I don't know why the title of the album ALSO reminds me to that album Anyone thinks the same? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 22:36
that's good news..... have often wondered if the 'CD format' for todays albums hurts them in the end. There are those who might say that 35 to 40 minutes of highly crafted music is better than trying to stretch finite musical ideas into 77 or 80 minutes. Especially for a band who aren't exactly new and flush with great, untapped ideas. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 22:37
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Did anybody else notice that the album cover has changed slightly? The
words "Systematic Chaos" are now in red... not really a noteworthy
change, but I thought I'd note it anyways :P. It's up on their MySpace
page if anybody wants to see it (http://www.myspace.com/dreamtheater) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/"> 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 08 2007 at 12:02
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80 minutes off good music > 40 minutes of good music Problem is, Octavarium would probably have benefited with at least "Never Enough" getting chopped off. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: April 08 2007 at 14:35
Not exactly the name reminds me of I Robot, but the cover seems to be a Storm Thorgerson's work (I Robot, Animals, and many more...)
Anyone can confirm if Storm did the cover artwork? -------------  "After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't" |
Posted By: thefalafelking
Date Posted: April 11 2007 at 05:25
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Steven Wilson guests on this album
www.swhq.co.uk ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ozrictesticles/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/artists/ozrictesticles.gif - |
Posted By: Unix
Date Posted: April 14 2007 at 01:26
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DREAM THEATER's upcoming release Systematic Chaos will be released on Tuesday June 5th (date may vary in different countries) and will be available in two formats: Regular Edition CD:  and a Special Edition CD and DVD:  The Special Edition DVD will include: --- the entire album mixed in 5.1 surround sound --- "Chaos in Progress - The Making of Systematic Chaos" (a 90-minute documentary directed by Mike Portnoy) The CD's track listing for both editions is: 1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1 (9:00) 2. Forsaken (5:36) 3. Constant Motion (6:55) 4. The Dark Eternal Night (8:51) 5. Repentance (10:43) 6. Prophets Of War (6:01) 7. The Ministry of Lost Souls (14:57) 8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2 (16:38) The band will shoot a video next week for the first single off the album, "Constant Motion". ------------- |
Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: April 14 2007 at 01:53
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^ Interesting news. I'll get the special edition, I just hope the album's good enough to justify the purchase. I'm pessimistic, based on the slow-but-steady decline I see post-SFAM, but I'm trying to keep my hopes up. Then again, I almost always find long making-of documentaries very interesting, even if the music involved isn't exactly the best the band has done. ------------- 
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Posted By: giantenemycrab
Date Posted: April 14 2007 at 12:28
| Any guesses on the difference in prices? |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 15 2007 at 16:04
The artwork has alot to do witht he album. I core tenant of the progressive rock movement was linking all aspects of art together into a cohesive whole. The visual is an important aspect of the art and a high concern for it was shown both in the elaborate stage shows and album covers. The artists obviously put considerable effort into choosing and designing appropriate cover art. So shouldn't it be something that we dedicate a proportional level of scrutiny to? Obviously the art in no way effects the music on the album, but the album is comprised more of the music contained in it. "Just live your life, take in what is around you and concentrate on things that are actually important. The release of this album cover artwork should not determine whether your life just got better or worse. Some person or people came up with the concept and created something that wasn't there yesterday. I say good for them." If you really believed that then why are you posting a rather lengthy response. Why are you even a member of this board if you think that the discussion here is a distraction from more important things? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 15 2007 at 16:12
Right on - if the cover art didnt matter then bands wouldnt spend so much money on it. For that matter all albums could just come with just the band's name and the title of the album on it.
I'm with Equality - I've never read so much rubbish in all my life!
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: April 15 2007 at 16:12
| I actually find the album much more interesting now that I saw the cover. It looks great. I wish there was a bigger picture though. |
Posted By: Bupie
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 06:02
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I do LOVE the SE cover. I put it as my new computer screensaver right away. It seems that they are still working on it, though (the DT logo now appears on one or three- depends on versions- of the lights). Notice the nine ants to figure the band's ninth album, I guess.
But I am not very objective because I have always been a big fan of Hugh Syme artcovers (even if Arena's Immortal is a little bit weird).
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 20:58
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i like the cover art. from what i've heard it's going to be a great album. |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 22:36
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Right on - if the cover art didnt matter then bands wouldnt spend so much money on it. For that matter all albums could just come with just the band's name and the title of the album on it.
I'm with Equality - I've never read so much rubbish in all my life!
Tony, Close to the Edge did all right with just the band's name and the album title on it. I'm not saying the artwork is not important. It's just that everything that comes down the pipe is ridiculed by someone on here. You don't do it, I don't do it. But it depresses me when it is done. If that's rubbish, so be it. Every negative thread that gets started gets a post saying negative threads are bad. Not so negative posts? ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |