herbie hancock-for prog?
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Topic: herbie hancock-for prog?
Posted By: sperantza
Subject: herbie hancock-for prog?
Date Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:10
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filled with a sense of soft-tended prog? ------------- jethro_31 |
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:11
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:15
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Who's Sperantza? The new DallasBryan (sorry DB How about a new discussion area? "Noobs With Nothing Interesting To Ask Or Say"
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..) or the new Wallace...
Posted By: Captain Fudge
Date Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:22
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HE'S MY BEST FRIEND, AND IF ANY OF YOU PICK ON HIM EVER AGAIN, I'LL LEAVE -------------  Teenage sucks hard -- Emo sucks even harder Epic. Simply epic. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:24
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C'mon Fudge..pack it in!! ------------- |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 05:55
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well, it's a quite old topic but I saw it newly! I vote in favor of Herbie! has produced 3 of the best fusion albums I've ever listened! (Sextant, Head Hunters, Man Child) maybe there's even more... after all, Al Di Meola is also here! Why not herbie? (this way, we'll have one more black person in progarchives!!) ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 05:57
| No, but there are some Miles Davis albums that should be... |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 06:07
Disco-funk-jazz. What I hate most. The next step is Whitney Houston. ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 08:46
| And the step after is an equally nonsensical comparison. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 09:20
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Thelma Houston - these ladies are related - did a stormer with Scott Henderson (Tribal Tech are here Johnny) on Tore Down House.
But too little of Hancock's repertoise/discography is jazz rock even jazz funk to be relevant. |
rockandrail wrote:Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 09:26
One of my favorite Henderson albums - great mix of humor, Fusion and Blues. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 09:49
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I think that the Mwandishi albums should be included, but as Mwandishi (Herbie Hancock). After all, Chick Corea was only involved in jazz/rock for about the same length of time as Hancock, but nobody has a problem with Return to Forever being included. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 12:32
Tell me when Herbie Hancock is permitted in,thats when I say farewell  Get a grip !!!! ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:02
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Then you obviously don't know much about Herbie Hancock's music. His Mwandishi period was some of the most creative music ever made, and his Sextant-Headhunters-Thrust-Manchild albums fit comfortably into the fusion genre. Even Future Shock was very progressive, in the literal sense of the word -- much more musically experimental than dozens of the artistically bankrupt neo-prog and prog metal crap that gets praised so much in there. |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:10
i'll stick to the neo-prog and prog metal crap you can have herbie  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:17
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Then you obviously don't know much about Herbie Even Future Shock was very progressive, in the Evidently he was too creative early on and not british enough to be included. He produced as much good progressive/fusion as the whole Cacklebury scene so thats grounds for obvious omission. 
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:31
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"not British enough" ????? say wot ?? ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:35
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His albums "headunters" or "Thrust" are classic fusion albums. During these recordings in solo, Hancock delivered true, "authentic" progressive music (If I admit the term in its most generous sense) ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:45
Agreed ... he would be a good addition. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 14:25
Herbie Hancock made his share of anodyne jazz funk, but anybody who judges his entire output on some slightly dodgy 80s hits should also dismiss Gabriel era Genesis on the basis of Invisible Touch, or Yes on the basis of The Big Generator. As much as I like Future Shock and Headhunters I wouldn't necessarily say they have a place in the archive, but the Mwandishi albums are as prog as jazz fusion ever got - electric keyboards, complex time signatures, adventurous synth work (on Crossings and Sextant) and imaginative arrangements. If you haven't heard those albums, shut the  up and beg, borrow or steal them as soon as possible.------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 16:41
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Not heard much outside of 'Headhunters' but on the basis of that I'd say no to be honest- to me it was more funk tinged than anything prog, and if we were including him we'd definitely have to bring in Miles' fusion stuff, maybe even people like Funkadelic, who ploughed a similar furrow to this. However, I accept that's the only album I really know. |
Posted By: S Lang
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 04:30
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Hancock is a versatile musician, he can play in any style. His deeper, jazzy works are legendary, his "Headhunters" period is more accessable and better known. "Rockit"??? Well, that was embarassing. OK, I'd say no to his inclusion at this point - at least not until after Miles Davis becomes "tolerated" here. Secondly, I have the feeling that he wouldn't pass an audience with Zappa. For some reason, Hancock appears to lack character. Great musician, but something is missing. George Duke may not have been as successful as Hancock, but he displays warmth in his music. Much rather him. |