System of a Down
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Topic: System of a Down
Posted By: Stratavarius
Subject: System of a Down
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 22:01
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Just a wishful thought.
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Posted By: Prometheus
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 22:12
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i love system, well...some of it (last two disks were dreadful...) but they have few, if any progressive or avant-garde characteristics. I would pay a lot to hear Serg Tarkian (i believe thats the lead singer's name) in an avant-garde band though... ((but...if we are going to include the Decemberists, and for the reasons stated in their profile, then I'd say System should have a chance...)) ((and yes, i love the Decemberists as well, just don't think they belong in the archives)) ------------- "Tell me why world, unfathomable and good, The beauty of everything is infinite and cruel." --Kayo Dot |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 22:13
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Wrong board for this. Anyway no. They don't resemble prog in the most flexible sense of the word. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Stratavarius
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 22:15
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Well, system of a down definitly does have the talent to become proggish
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Posted By: Matt Dickens
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 23:58
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Potential to become progressive is not progressive in the least bit. The only song I've heard that even has a few elements of prog would be 'Question'. It kind of seems like they become less inspired with each new release. I also can't stand Daron Malakian doing as much singing as he did on the last two.
They definetly do not belong here and I feel that the chances of them ever changing their sound to a more progressive format (or anything besides what they've been regurgitating since the last millenium) are slim to none. ------------- If it ain't broke don't break it. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 00:11
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No. This has been discussed to death, so see why here: forum_posts.asp?TID=6275&KW=system+down - - System of a - Down - close to prog? forum_posts.asp?TID=8630&KW=system+down - - system of a - down? Prog? forum_posts.asp?TID=10140&KW=system+down - - System of The - Down forum_posts.asp?TID=12085&KW=system+down - - System of a - Down forum_posts.asp?TID=13711&KW=system+down - - System of a - Down: Prog? forum_posts.asp?TID=14902&KW=system+down - - System of a - Down for the archive? forum_posts.asp?TID=15529&KW=system+down - - System of a - Down forum_posts.asp?TID=17919&KW=system+down - about - system of a - down forum_posts.asp?TID=19366&KW=system+down - - system of a - down... forum_posts.asp?TID=26402&KW=system+down - - System of a - Down ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 00:45
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The Miracle wrote:Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 02:45
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^I knew we'd discussed this before.
Not even close.  ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 03:00
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SOAD are far more prog than say Metallica.. and there's no other more suitable word to describe their music... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: Hatters
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 05:52
Nice one. That'll shut everyone up. -------------  http://www.last.fm/user/SHatters/?chartstyle=basic10"> 
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Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 06:28
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I think they could fit in nicely with prog related, I mean they're not over the top prog, but they are very creative and experiment alot with different timbres, structures, tempo changes... Their guitarist got the sound he wanted for their last two albums by sticking acoustic guitars on a wall, pointing his guitar amp at them and miking them up!! If I were to personally categorise them as prog related Art Metal. People seem too concerned with setting a genre that is meant to be about breaking genres. It's progressive rock! The name itself is extremely ambiguous, people are trying to define something that shouldn't necessarily be defined. Even though this topic has been done to death, I like that there a poll has been made, even though the results don't further what I believe in. ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 07:32
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Maybe some avat garde elements, but not progressive -------------  |
Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 07:59
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definitely - NO. This is typical heavy metal band for me. I can't find anything prog there. -------------  
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 08:31
SOAD more prog than Metallica?
HOW?
Oh - I see what you're doing....
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Posted By: Lex C
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 10:44
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While I don't think they should be added, I don't believe that they should be completely written off either. System right now stands on a threshold between Prog Metal, and Thrash Metal, while most of their stuff hint's towards Thrash, they do have a few bluesy Jazzy pieces, not to mention Vicinity of Obscenity sounds alot like say hmm Mr. Bungle, I am very much looking forward to their next album (If it happens of Course) to see where they take their sound.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 10:52
I agree that they're not prog ... but there's hardly anything "typical" about them - they're the most "atypical" metal band I know.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 14:12
Agreed  ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 14:17
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Their Bungle influence don't make'em prog. They have some prog, experimental or even avant moments, but that not enough IMO. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! http://www.last.fm/music/Exerior" rel="nofollow - EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway! |
Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 14:19
Sorry but the only SOAD's song I like is Toxicity (I even knwo how to play it on bass...but it isn't too difficult in fact ). For me it's too heavy kind of music, something completely out of prog-rock context  . But I don't like progressive metal too, so probably I'm not the best person to rate them. -------------
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 14:23
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 14:37
Agreed, could be progressive is not enough. For what they are attempting to do they should be progressive, but they just aren't progressing themselves or their music. However, I must admit I've warmed to them slightly since seeing them at Download, but I cannot even accept that they are metal - they are just hard rock. (Doesn't Malakian sing on Question!?) ------------- What? |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 16:39
Not metal???? 
Have you heard the first two albums?
Chop Suey is a partially thrash-based chunk of pure manic metal to my ears - hard rock (in my book) doesn't have that metallic edge or use thrash. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 17:12
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^ their songs are interesting mixes of various genres ... metal being a main ingredient. I can understand if people coming from different genres and not too familiar with metal don't view them as a metal band, they're also rooted in Alt-Rock/Punk/Crossover.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 28 2007 at 17:29
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^ the entire spectrum of metal is broad and alternative metal is even more vague and ill defined, so it is purely a matter of personal opinion as to whether SoaD are metal or not. I still maintain that (with Mezmerise/Hypnotise) they are closer to hard rock than metal. However, whichever they are is completely immaterial, they not be prog.
(I have heard the debut album, but not Toxicity) ------------- What? |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 03:41
I don't know what "Alt-Rock" is supposed to sound like, or "Crossover", but I don't really hear punk in the mix.
Hard Rock to me is Led Zep, Deep Purple et al - and I don't hear that.
...and I definitely don't hear Prog Rock either ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 14:06
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This has been done before,please use the search function to find the relative threads. -------------  |