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Topic: Last tendencies in metal
Posted By: markosherrera
Subject: Last tendencies in metal
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 19:54
tHATS ARE BANDS THAT DEFIES CLASSIFICATIONS,BECAUSE I find these bands in a very differents classification,please make some comments



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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 20:38
I would say that all these bands have been classified in one way or another. They are either Extreme Metal or Progressive Metal, though some are Extreme Progressive Metal.
 
You are correct in saying that they are in different classifications because most of them are cross-overs in one form or another that have blended one form of Metal, (primarily Black Metal or Death Metal) with Electronic or Industrial music.
 
For some it was successful, for others it was an unmitigated mistake.


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 21:18
I daresay that Neurosis single-handedly invented "post-metal".


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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 02:32
Out of the choices, I pick Ulver.


Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 04:31
Ulver for me too.


Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 14:23
Out of those, Neurosis, then Jesu


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 14:25
Devin Townsend- his music is unique and amazing. Every album he has brings something different to the table. 

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 23:14
Out of those......hm, I say Fear Factory.


Posted By: Keithapparatus
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 23:41
I'm not really a fan of those artists.  I guess I'm really picky about my taste in metal.


Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 12:35
Hard to pick...

but I really love it when indie kids try to claim that Jesu isn't a metal band.  They're like 'pshh.. that's not metal, I wouldn't listen to it if it were metal...'  Even when you point to the Godflesh/Napalm Death connections, they won't admit it.


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 19:06

Ulver redefines themselves with every album.

Easy choice,really.


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 19:07
More than half of the bands in this poll are in the archives,so I am moving this to Prog Polls.

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 19:24
The "last" tendencies in Metal is unfortunately noisier, grimier, gorier, grossier, worser (sic). When you have to strain to hear or make out the actual riff(s) there is something not quite right. 

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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 22:13
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

The "last" tendencies in Metal is unfortunately noisier, grimier, gorier, grossier, worser (sic). When you have to strain to hear or make out the actual riff(s) there is something not quite right. 


Usually it's not about riffs and licks like traditional metal, but rather focuses on layering and atmosphere.  The goal is to create a mood, not to dazzle with complicated riffery. 


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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 23:14
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

I would say that all these bands have been classified in one way or another. They are either Extreme Metal or Progressive Metal, though some are Extreme Progressive Metal.
 

You are correct in saying that they are in different classifications because most of them are cross-overs in one form or another that have blended one form of Metal, (primarily Black Metal or Death Metal) with Electronic or Industrial music.

 

For some it was successful, for others it was an unmitigated mistake.

For me a mistake!!!

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 06 2007 at 13:30
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

The "last" tendencies in Metal is unfortunately noisier, grimier, gorier, grossier, worser (sic). When you have to strain to hear or make out the actual riff(s) there is something not quite right. 


Usually it's not about riffs and licks like traditional metal, but rather focuses on layering and atmosphere.  The goal is to create a mood, not to dazzle with complicated riffery. 

That sounds like a critique I once read about classical music - that it sounded like a song was about to start, but then didn't .
I like riffs. Atmosphere for me sounds like it takes 15 minutes to get to something vaguely resembling a melody. Or something you hear as background music in a horror movie.


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Posted By: PorcupineDreams
Date Posted: June 06 2007 at 14:43

I voted Voivod, but where's Amorphis, Opeth, and Dark Tranquility?



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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 18:17
Originally posted by PorcupineDreams PorcupineDreams wrote:

I voted Voivod, but where's Amorphis, Opeth, and Dark Tranquility?


They saw Voivod and submitted Big%20smile


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Posted By: Selkie
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 15:04
I would have chosen Ulver, but only a few of their early albums have anything to do with metal, it feels kind of inappropriate.

That leaves Neurosis, they were incredibly influential. 


Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 17:02
Ulver would be my pick, but their metal albums do very little for me, whereas I find their recent direction fascinating. As Selkie pointed out, it feels inappropriate to pick them when this seems to be a poll about metal.

I suppose it's Neurosis then, although I've only heard one of their albums.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 17:30

^ ^^ the poll says nothing about being limiting current releases or about being Progressive Metal - if you like Ulver, then pick Ulver I say.

Blood Inside is a Metal album, it's electronic, experimental and progressive but still metal (and its even got guitars!)



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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 23:55
Maybe its cause I dont own the right albums, but I cant see any metal in UlverConfused

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 16:22
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Maybe its cause I dont own the right albums, but I cant see any metal in UlverConfused
that is an explanation. Wink


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Posted By: Draconean
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 05:52
Voivod

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Posted By: Eerichtho
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 06:03
The experimental Ulver


Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 16:23
Ulver by knock-outApprove!!!


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 20:54
Ulver is amazing.


Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 12:37
Jesu, followed closely by Ulver.

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Posted By: P.H.P.
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 14:58
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

The "last" tendencies in Metal is unfortunately noisier, grimier, gorier, grossier, worser (sic). When you have to strain to hear or make out the actual riff(s) there is something not quite right. 


I agree with you in that, I think new metal direction tends to be unconsistant and predominantely like you said...




Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 20 2007 at 00:42
Out of these, Cult of Luna


Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 10:12
Blut aus nord
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 12:31
I'm not really fan of those bands, maybe Voivod tells me anything, the rest i know some of their works, but not appeal to me very much. So Voivod is my vote.


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 17:42
Cult of Luna is delicious, they are part of the new eclectic form of post metalm, very definable!
 
I still need some Ulver.


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 17:44
Devin Townsend by a country mile

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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 19:26
There are some really nice names here, I'll just choose my current, Ulver.


Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 11:34
I`m not an expert, but... 
 
ULVER sounds good!...


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Posted By: Tylosand Ektorp
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 17:32
Devin's lucky, he's got two entrys! I picked Strapping Young Lad because of their intelligent ferocity and occasional sense of humor but primarily that's the band I've played the most of in the last month. My second choice is Voivod. Those guys have a lot of variety and weren't afraid to take chances.

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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 17:43
Fear Factory; they have some catchy stuff


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 02:30
   neither
 
   Isis
 
  ring any bell?



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