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Topic: Fred Frith & Projects
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Subject: Fred Frith & Projects
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 23:27
So, which Fred Frith bands or projects do you like the most?

I have yet to hear them all, but so far, the classic Henry Cow is impressive, but Skeleton Crew also are impressing me, more so than Massacre for the moment.


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Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:04

I dig his stuff with Death Ambient

 
 

Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:16
For some strange reason it took me a long time to disgest Henry Cow maybe 2 years to finally 'get it'. I liked their albums, but never saw the 'masterpiece' values in them. Now I adore the band. My two favourites are probably LegEnd and In the Praise of Learning, hard to sparate those two albums.

Closely behind are Art Bears, enjoyed them straight of the hat.

Keep the Dog ??

Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:18
Keep the Dog was another band he was in with Zeena Parks and others... they released one live album, apparently.

It's classed a solo album though...


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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:21
Might a assume the 'apparently' means you are not musically familiar with this project? Should be interest to see what Chris has to say.

Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:22
I somehow liked Unrest the first or second time I heard it.. though it's the only Cow album I own


Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:25
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Might a assume the 'apparently' means you are not musically familiar with this project? Should be interest to see what Chris has to say.

http://www.cloudsandclocks.net/CD_reviews/frith_ktd_E.html -
http://www.cloudsandclocks.net/CD_reviews/frith_ktd_E.html

It should be under Frith's discography on P.A. too.

They were a band, but the live recordings were released under his own name.

Track listing

Disc 1

  1. "Revelation" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Derome - Derome ) / "Bones" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Laswell - Laswell , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Maher - Maher ) – 4:59
  2. "Rock and a Hard Place" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:45
  3. "Hola, On Danse!" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith , http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ferdinand_Richard&action=edit - Richard ) – 2:20
  4. "Foot in Hole" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 7:38
  5. "Fanfare" / "Lizard's Tail" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 4:31
  6. "Suspended" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 2:02
  7. "Quick Sign" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:16
  8. "Propaganda Suite" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 8:37
  9. "Walking Song" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:32
  10. "Some Clouds Do" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 2:57

Disc 2

  1. "The Same Eye" / "Fives" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:37
  2. "No Legs" / "Slow Bones" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 7:13
  3. "That Home We Lived In" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_the_Dog - Keep the Dog ) / "Candy Machine" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:24
  4. "The Trace" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kaiser_%28musician%29 - Kaiser ) – 5:18
  5. "True Love (instrumental version)" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 4:01
  6. "Instant Party" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:07
  7. "Small Mercy II" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:34
  8. "Norrgården Nyvla" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:13
  9. "Year of the Monkey" / "Dark as a Match" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 6:21
  10. "Domaine de Langendreer" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 4:52
Oooh, a yummy tracklisting!



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 02:08
Henry Cow and Skeleton Crew are both amazing.
 
Haven't heard too much art bears, but from what I did they were pretty good.
 
Only heard one FF solo and it was alright.
 
Haven't heard anything else so I won't vote.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 06:55
I saw Skeleton Crew live and picked up Learn To Talk and Speechless which were sold at the show.  I had been introduced to Frith via his work with Eno, but those two albums cemented me as a fan.  Pleasantly surprised to find there was a second SC album when the remaster for Learn To Talk came out combined with The Country of the Blinds. 
 
I have many solo Friths but still haven't delved into any of his other projects, with the exception of the Residents, whom he's guested with.   Also don't forget the two French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson albums where oddly enough, Frith only plays no guitar but serves as the bassist.


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 08:33
Definitely French, Frith, Kaiser & Thompson.

Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 10:46
I missed that off, my mistake, but that project can be classed as other.

Other also incorporates his work with Residents and even his production work for The Muffins.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 18:43
Can't believe I forgot the Muffins.  Mighty tasty, did you bring any?

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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 19:18

1. Henry Cow

2. Art Bears

3. Solo career



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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 19:32
French Frith Kaisar Thompson 

Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 23:42
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I saw Skeleton Crew live and picked up Learn To Talk and Speechless which were sold at the show.  I had been introduced to Frith via his work with Eno, but those two albums cemented me as a fan.  Pleasantly surprised to find there was a second SC album when the remaster for Learn To Talk came out combined with The Country of the Blinds. 
 
I have many solo Friths but still haven't delved into any of his other projects, with the exception of the Residents, whom he's guested with.   Also don't forget the two French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson albums where oddly enough, Frith only plays no guitar but serves as the bassist.


It isn't terribly odd when you consider that he originally joined Henry Cow as a bass player. 


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 23:43
1. Henry Cow
2. Solo
3. Art Bears
4. Aksak Maboul
5. Residents
6. Looping Home Orchestra


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 23:45
Art bears, though I've heard Massacre is very good. I'm a bit tired of Frith at the moment, I think I'll try his projects later.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 00:18
I went with the truly wonderful Henry Cow, but Art Bears is excellent too.

I'm not nearly as familiar with his other work as I should be.


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Just a fanboy passin' through.

Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 09:26
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Might a assume the 'apparently' means you are not musically familiar with this project? Should be interest to see what Chris has to say.

http://www.cloudsandclocks.net/CD_reviews/frith_ktd_E.html -
http://www.cloudsandclocks.net/CD_reviews/frith_ktd_E.html

It should be under Frith's discography on P.A. too.

They were a band, but the live recordings were released under his own name.

Track listing

Disc 1

  1. "Revelation" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Derome - Derome ) / "Bones" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Laswell - Laswell , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Maher - Maher ) – 4:59
  2. "Rock and a Hard Place" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:45
  3. "Hola, On Danse!" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith , http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ferdinand_Richard&action=edit - Richard ) – 2:20
  4. "Foot in Hole" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 7:38
  5. "Fanfare" / "Lizard's Tail" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 4:31
  6. "Suspended" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 2:02
  7. "Quick Sign" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:16
  8. "Propaganda Suite" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 8:37
  9. "Walking Song" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:32
  10. "Some Clouds Do" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 2:57

Disc 2

  1. "The Same Eye" / "Fives" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 5:37
  2. "No Legs" / "Slow Bones" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 7:13
  3. "That Home We Lived In" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_the_Dog - Keep the Dog ) / "Candy Machine" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:24
  4. "The Trace" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kaiser_%28musician%29 - Kaiser ) – 5:18
  5. "True Love (instrumental version)" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 4:01
  6. "Instant Party" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:07
  7. "Small Mercy II" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:34
  8. "Norrgården Nyvla" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 3:13
  9. "Year of the Monkey" / "Dark as a Match" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 6:21
  10. "Domaine de Langendreer" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Frith - Frith ) – 4:52
Oooh, a yummy tracklisting!

 
This got my vote - I posted a review a few months ago.
 
The band was formed by Frith in 1988 to perform selections from his career up to that point, including some unrecorded material from the Henry Cow era as well as his various post HC projects. There's nothing from Art Bears, but  otherwise it pretty much covers all the bases. The recordings were made during a 1991 European tour, but weren't released until a couple of years ago.


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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom



Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 09:31
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I saw Skeleton Crew live and picked up Learn To Talk and Speechless which were sold at the show.  I had been introduced to Frith via his work with Eno, but those two albums cemented me as a fan.  Pleasantly surprised to find there was a second SC album when the remaster for Learn To Talk came out combined with The Country of the Blinds. 
 
I have many solo Friths but still haven't delved into any of his other projects, with the exception of the Residents, whom he's guested with.   Also don't forget the two French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson albums where oddly enough, Frith only plays no guitar but serves as the bassist.


It isn't terribly odd when you consider that he originally joined Henry Cow as a bass player. 
 
No he didn't - he formed Henry Cow with Tim Hodgkinson in 1968 when the two of them improvised on guitar and alto sax, and John Greaves, the original bassist, joined shortly afterwards.
 
Frith played bass and guitar on the last Henry Cow album, Western Culture, because Georgie Born (who replaced Greaves in 1976) had already left. He also played bass, and everything else apart from drums, in Art Bears, and went on to play bass with Zorn's Naked City. He also played some bass in Keep the Dog and Skeleton Crew.


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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom



Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 21:09
I've also read he played bass with Residents too.

Also remember he played Viola on Little Red Robin Hood Hit the Road, from Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom.


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