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Topic: Genesis Tour Critique
Posted By: Chris S
Subject: Genesis Tour Critique
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 04:34
Hi
 
Why is there so few reports on the Genesis shows. No I will not become a premium Genesis member to find out. Was just hoping all the Genesis fans outthere would have enlightened us somewhat. Forget era's!!! Any feedback please.


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Posted By: Harold Demure
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 05:04
Hi, I was on the yesterdays concert in Katowice.
My general impression is very positive, even thought they didn't play a lot of prog rock stuff - there were more songs like Land Of Confusion, I Can't Dance etc. But sill I think that the performance of the whole band was excellent. And Phil Collins proved to be not only a great vocalist, but also a very nice comedian and showman. In spite of his age, he's still in great form. They also showed great musical skills - Collins with his solo on drums, Rutherford in the solo on Firth of Fifth, Banks eg. in organ solo of the same song.
Haven't ever seen such a pompous show, too. Some animations were absolutely brilliant, IMO the best one was in Home By The Sea. It really brought a new light on this song with this horrifying figure from the famous Munch's picture "The Scream" - an excellent idea to display it during this song.

Apart from that, in this concert there was something special, precisely - the weather. It was so awful that the first words of Phil Collins were: "f**king rain"(he used the polish word for rain, of course ). But the rain and the terrible storm instead of spoiling the concert, added a lot of magic to it's atmosphere. It really didn't bother so much that everyone was soaked to the skin. And something unusual happened wihin the last second of Land Of Confusion. - an enourmous lightning tore the whole sky as if it was planned by organizers.

And one more thing - it seemede that the band put a lot of effort in the concert and that they reall enjoyed the show, too, and that's not only my personal opinion.

So generally it was worth going to this concert, and it was the best I've ever seen (apart from VDGG, maybe). The only disadvantage is the repertoire, alhough you can't have everything.

PS. Sorry for all language mistakes and that post is so chaotic and that I am blabbing so much, but I tend to be a hell of a chatterbox.

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Posted By: Spyro
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 05:27
Sounds like a cool set list, gee i`m sorry I missed out  LOL


Posted By: Harold Demure
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 05:33
IMO both "eras" of Genesis are full of valuable music. Of course, the 70s are better than 80s and 90s, but Genesis were for me gods both as prog-rockers and pop-rockers. I don't know wh you guys think of all this post Hackett stuff like rubbish...

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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 05:45
Originally posted by Harold Demure Harold Demure wrote:

Hi, I was on the yesterdays concert in Katowice.
They also showed great musical skills - Rutherford in the solo on Firth of Fifth



whoa, can't believe rutherford attempted playing that

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 07:46
Thanks for that review Harold.

I was starting to wonder how that tour was going. I didn't buy a ticket. They were far too expensive for the UK shows, and as I suspected they are not playing much prog stuff. I would pay money to see Genesis doing predominantly post Duke material, but not £170 for a cheap seat.


Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 07:48
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I would pay money to see Genesis doing predominantly post Duke material, but not £170 for a cheap seat.


170 quid for a CHEAP seat? and to think that i complained about 80 euros
for the local show here in hamburg. just what are the promoters thinking?

just buy the live DVD that is bound to be released, it will probably amount
to almost the same thing...

PS: from what i had heard, the show was stunning!

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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 13:21
I've seen some of the performances that were put on YouTube- they sound great, imho. I'm seeing the Dusseldorf gig on 27th June in a UK cinema, and will give my thoughts.
 
The setlist is very good, imho, there are only a few turkeys here (Invisible Touch and I Can't Dance, I'm looking at you)- on another board though some were grumbling (in all seriousness) about them not playing 'Get 'Em Out By Friday' or 'Can Utility And The Coastliners'. There's just no pleasing some people...


Posted By: steveg1958
Date Posted: June 24 2007 at 14:09

Slaski Stadium  - Katowice, Poland 21/06/07

The rain was falling from the sky from the time we arrived at the venue, but we had waited 15 years and 7 months for this event. We travelled 1200 miles from the UK and nothing but nothing was going to spoil it.
 
We had VIP tickets so was better off than those fans who had no choice but to stand in  the rain and get wet, although the views we had was a blanket of colours from umbrellas and plastic rain covers.
 
The band came on stage around 8.30pm although someone might correct me on this time I had no time piece.
 
From start to the very end the sound quality, the lighting, the rear screen effects, and even the lightning all added to the varied mixture of tracks that Genesis covered.
 
Phil Collins is and has always been a perfectionist, and this was obvious, the poor guy was dripping wet but still he gave us a performance to remember.
 
Anyone who is yet to see this tour is in for a real treat.


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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: June 24 2007 at 20:30

As much as I don't like the new stuff, I'd still like to see them.



Posted By: puma
Date Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:26
I'm going to catch them this autumn either in Boston or Baltimore, depending if I'm at school or home. I'm really looking forward to this, I enjoy all types of good music, especially anything with Tony Banks!


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:27
I really dont see why you would want to see them without Gabriel, I mean they have some great songs afte PG, but the shows are probably nothing to compare. My dad saw them though in 80', so I'll ask him and report here.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 25 2007 at 05:13
Originally posted by steveg1958 steveg1958 wrote:

Slaski Stadium  - Katowice, Poland 21/06/07


The rain was falling from the sky from the time we arrived at the venue, but we had waited 15 years and 7 months for this event. We travelled 1200 miles from the UK and nothing but nothing was going to spoil it.

 

We had VIP tickets so was better off than those fans who had no choice but to stand in  the rain and get wet, although the views we had was a blanket of colours from umbrellas and plastic rain covers.

 

The band came on stage around 8.30pm although someone might correct me on this time I had no time piece.

 

From start to the very end the sound quality, the lighting, the rear screen effects, and even the lightning all added to the varied mixture of tracks that Genesis covered.

 

Phil Collins is and has always been a perfectionist, and this was obvious, the poor guy was dripping wet but still he gave us a performance to remember.

 

Anyone who is yet to see this tour is in for a real treat.


Can you remember what 'pre Abacab' songs they played?


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 25 2007 at 05:16
Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I would pay money to see Genesis doing predominantly post Duke material, but not £170 for a cheap seat.


170 quid for a CHEAP seat? and to think that i complained about 80 euros
for the local show here in hamburg. just what are the promoters thinking?

just buy the live DVD that is bound to be released, it will probably amount
to almost the same thing...

PS: from what i had heard, the show was stunning!


At Twickenham Rugby Ground, the most expensive tickets were around £500 when they went on sale. This was for the beautiful peoples zone at the front. The rest of the plebs were expected to pay between £170 and £300 for a ticket. Cheaper tickets may have become available from some agencies, but I couldn't find them, and I think it sold out pretty quick.



Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 25 2007 at 16:41
Holy hell...  it looks like they've played Supper's Ready at the most recent show...  IN ITS ENTIRETY!

Check it out, guys Big%20smile

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQ - Genesis 2007 - Supper's Ready


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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 25 2007 at 18:41
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:


Can you remember what 'pre Abacab' songs they played?
 
This is the setlist posted about the Helsinki gig I would be suprised if this has changed much:
 
Behind the Lines (instrumental intro)~Duke's End~Turn It On Again
No Son Of Mine
Land of Confusion
In The Cage~The Cinema Show (instr.)~Duke's Travels (instr.)~Afterglow
Hold on My Heart
Home by the Sea~Second Home By The Sea
Follow You Follow Me
Firth of Fifth (instr.)~I Know What I Like
Mama
Ripples
Throwing It All Away
Domino
Drum Duet~Los Endos

Encores:
Tonight Tonight Tonight (vocal part)~Invisible Touch
I Can't Dance
Carpet Crawlers
 
All in all more songs that are pop but in total time it tilts to the prog side.
And I am pretty sure Daryl Struemer played the solo for Firth of Fifth. Wink
 


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Posted By: steveg1958
Date Posted: June 25 2007 at 18:59
That set list looks about right from the Slaski (Poland ) gig although I was a little pickled from the Vodka!

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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: June 25 2007 at 19:01
Yeah, I did write about the Finnish gig http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38945 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38945 . Seems that yo uhad something just as good there :)

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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: June 26 2007 at 15:42
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Holy hell...  it looks like they've played Supper's Ready at the most recent show...  IN ITS ENTIRETY!

Check it out, guys Big%20smile

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQ - Genesis 2007 - Supper's Ready
 
LOL
 
WTF ??!?!!??
 
You're cruel, dude !!!


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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: June 26 2007 at 15:48
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Holy hell...  it looks like they've played Supper's Ready at the most recent show...  IN ITS ENTIRETY!

Check it out, guys Big%20smile

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQ - Genesis 2007 - Supper's Ready
Die. Along with Rick Roll and the rest of 4chan.


Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 10:08
Originally posted by Harold Demure Harold Demure wrote:

Hi, I was on the yesterdays concert in Katowice.
My general impression is very positive, even thought they didn't play a lot of prog rock stuff - there were more songs like Land Of Confusion, I Can't Dance etc. But sill I think that the performance of the whole band was excellent. And Phil Collins proved to be not only a great vocalist, but also a very nice comedian and showman. In spite of his age, he's still in great form. They also showed great musical skills - Collins with his solo on drums, Rutherford in the solo on Firth of Fifth, Banks eg. in organ solo of the same song.
Haven't ever seen such a pompous show, too. Some animations were absolutely brilliant, IMO the best one was in Home By The Sea. It really brought a new light on this song with this horrifying figure from the famous Munch's picture "The Scream" - an excellent idea to display it during this song.

Apart from that, in this concert there was something special, precisely - the weather. It was so awful that the first words of Phil Collins were: "f**king rain"(he used the polish word for rain, of course ). But the rain and the terrible storm instead of spoiling the concert, added a lot of magic to it's atmosphere. It really didn't bother so much that everyone was soaked to the skin. And something unusual happened wihin the last second of Land Of Confusion. - an enourmous lightning tore the whole sky as if it was planned by organizers.

And one more thing - it seemede that the band put a lot of effort in the concert and that they reall enjoyed the show, too, and that's not only my personal opinion.

So generally it was worth going to this concert, and it was the best I've ever seen (apart from VDGG, maybe). The only disadvantage is the repertoire, alhough you can't have everything.

PS. Sorry for all language mistakes and that post is so chaotic and that I am blabbing so much, but I tend to be a hell of a chatterbox.
Big Genesis fan here of the whole entire career!!!
.I'm glad that you enjoyed the show.


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Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 04:08
Originally posted by Harold Demure Harold Demure wrote:

Hi, I was on the yesterdays concert in Katowice.
My general impression is very positive, even thought they didn't play a lot of prog rock stuff - there were more songs like Land Of Confusion, I Can't Dance etc. But sill I think that the performance of the whole band was excellent. And Phil Collins proved to be not only a great vocalist, but also a very nice comedian and showman. In spite of his age, he's still in great form. They also showed great musical skills - Collins with his solo on drums, Rutherford in the solo on Firth of Fifth, Banks eg. in organ solo of the same song.
Haven't ever seen such a pompous show, too. Some animations were absolutely brilliant, IMO the best one was in Home By The Sea. It really brought a new light on this song with this horrifying figure from the famous Munch's picture "The Scream" - an excellent idea to display it during this song.

Apart from that, in this concert there was something special, precisely - the weather. It was so awful that the first words of Phil Collins were: "f**king rain"(he used the polish word for rain, of course ). But the rain and the terrible storm instead of spoiling the concert, added a lot of magic to it's atmosphere. It really didn't bother so much that everyone was soaked to the skin. And something unusual happened wihin the last second of Land Of Confusion. - an enourmous lightning tore the whole sky as if it was planned by organizers.

And one more thing - it seemede that the band put a lot of effort in the concert and that they reall enjoyed the show, too, and that's not only my personal opinion.

So generally it was worth going to this concert, and it was the best I've ever seen (apart from VDGG, maybe). The only disadvantage is the repertoire, alhough you can't have everything.

PS. Sorry for all language mistakes and that post is so chaotic and that I am blabbing so much, but I tend to be a hell of a chatterbox.
Sounds like even mother nature had some input. Glad to hear the show is underway. Hopefully by the time they get to the U.S. the set playlist will change with some earlier stuff. Getting to see Tony Banks is worth the whole show for me. Rutherford played Firth Of Fifth? Thanks for sharing with us.
 
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 05:01

I went to the Cardiff, um, 'cinema showing' of the Dusseldorf gig yesterday- phenomenal.Clap If you get the opportunity to see them live, do so. The set list was excellent, imho, one of the best the band have come up with in years- heavily weighted towards their lengthier material, and not that many pure pop tunes to speak of. Even those were enjoyable enough in this setting.

There was a very big turnout at the cinema- not many empty seats. The transmission went relatively smoothly, occasional and brief glitches in sound/picture notwithstanding.



Posted By: Wotgorilla
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 10:14
They are doing over 40 shows in Europe and North America, so why don't they add a few more and come over to Japan and Australia?  Based on the reviews thus far, I'd certainly fork out a fair bit to see them if they played here in Melbourne.
 
(The success of this tour will probably make a 5 man reunion with PG and SH less likely. I suspect the current trio may even record a new album next year)


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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 11:13
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Holy hell...  it looks like they've played Supper's Ready at the most recent show...  IN ITS ENTIRETY!

Check it out, guys Big%20smile

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQ - Genesis 2007 - Supper's Ready
 
Hahaha.. i actualy like the 80 Genesis.. Duke ftw ! Heart


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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 12:54
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I went to the Cardiff, um, 'cinema showing' of the Dusseldorf gig yesterday- phenomenal.Clap If you get the opportunity to see them live, do so. The set list was excellent, imho, one of the best the band have come up with in years- heavily weighted towards their lengthier material, and not that many pure pop tunes to speak of. Even those were enjoyable enough in this setting.

There was a very big turnout at the cinema- not many empty seats. The transmission went relatively smoothly, occasional and brief glitches in sound/picture notwithstanding.

 
I too saw the 'Cinema Show'  and agree it was very enjoyable . There was one or two tunes that I could have done without but hey, they provide an opportunity for a toilet break. I wish Rutherford would stick to just playing 'bass' & '12 string' though as his limitations as a 'lead guitarist' were evident. Steurner on the other hand did some great improvs like at the end of 'In The Cage'.
 
The stage set was very impressive !



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