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Topic: Vortex (band)
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Vortex (band)
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:11
Here's the track list from the double-CD set which contains both of the albums.  I did not include the bonus tracks in the poll.

CD 1 - Vortex - 49:52
1. Haroun'thasckouack (10:40)
2. Ahsquoumboum (6:55)
3. Delicieuse Creature (14:32)
4. Abominable Creature (1:10)
5. C'est Cool, Raoul (11:43) (Bonus)
6. Prolego 1 (5:01) (Bonus)

CD 2 - Les Cycles de Thanatos - 50:48
1. God is Good for You, John (4:28)
2. Prolegomenes (11:43)
3. Les Cycles de Thanatos (25:16)
4. 4. Hipopotalamus Negrus (5:46) (Bonus)
5. Ivanoe (4:35) (Bonus)

I vote for "Prolegomenes".


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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:25
I haven't heard of Vortex ?  Embarrassed


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:55
"Vortex"? By which band? If you asked me what my favourite track from "Vortex" is I'd assume you are talking about Amon Düül 2, and I'd be torn between "Das Gestern ist das Heute von Morgen" and "Die 7 fetten Jahr'".

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 13:02
The band from France called http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2745 - Vortex which released two albums: Vortex and Les Cycles de Thanatos.

Can listen to some of the music here: http://www.letriton.com/LABEL/CD06.html - http://www.letriton.com/LABEL/CD06.html


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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 13:03
Me too, the AMON DUUL 2 album came to mind first , but looking at the titles, doesn't seem we are talking about RENATE here.!!!!!Ermm


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 13:12
I love Amon Duul II myself, but didn't think to label this Vortex, the band.  Guess I'll edit the title to make it clear.  Good "avant" band, but obviously not very popular.

../album.asp?id=13734 - Vortex 1975 4.00
Excellent%20addition%20to%20any%20prog%20music%20collection
(2 ratings)
Studio Album
../album.asp?id=13735 - Les Cycles De Thanatos 1979 4.75
Essential:%20a%20masterpiece%20of%20progressive%20music
(3 ratings)
Studio Album



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 13:31
They sound very interesting. A bit like early Magma. I think I'll have to try and get that album. I won' vote yet since I have to listen to the tracks in full length first.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 14:04
Well-heard... I was intermittently writing something about that (multi-tasking) when I checked back to see if anyone had responded. 

Taken from Avestin's Vortex bio at this site:

"Vortex is highly recommended to people who like fusion, 20th century classical music (by composers such as those mentioned above), chamber rock and even Canterbury (for their first album).
A true gem of progressive music."

But Vortex should appeal to Zeuhl-heads as well (those into early MAGMA and DUN - Eros).  For instance, the Vortex album's "Haroun'thasckouack" has a strong early Magma vibe, and the next song, "Ahsquomboum" has quite the DUNish qualities.

Good jazzy avant music (RIO, Canterbury, Zeuhl, and so-called modern classical).




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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 14:51
Early Magma is a poor reference point; I think Dun is much closer to their sound.  The second album is orgasmic, and the second track is my favorite.  

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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 16:01
I haven't heard their self-titled, but Les Cycles de Thanatos wasn't really that interesting, in my opinion. I won't vote, but I'll give Les Cycles... another listen, to see if I see the light.


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:07
I was obsessed with their Les Cycles de Thanatos album about a year ago [right through my French period]. Unfortunately I still have not listened to their first album, need to purchase the double disc set sometime soon, as I don't like my chances of tracking down an original vinyl.

I think when regarding the title track, parallels could be made to a light Univers Zero or Art Zoyd. After the Jazzy start to the album takes up a sombre chamber rock feel.




Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 22:53
Dun and Univers Zero were the two bands that I immediately made comparisons with, certainly, when I got these albums.

I prefer the second album, but the first is good too.  I, also, was obsessed with the Les Cycles... album.  I've been hoping to find many more albums that are similar to it. 

ZNR's "Traite de Mecanique Populaire" is one of my latest chamber progressive music album acquisitions (not rock -- though considered Avant Prog by many -- a very good album).

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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 22:59
Ah, what great albums, those two are! Fell for it at first listen, the double cd release is very much worth getting!
Voted for the title track of the second cd with Prolegomenes being second close.
I find it to be truly wonderful. Good of you to expose them, Logan!
 
 


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 01:06
And thank you for exposing them to me, since I discovered them thanks to your addition and bio. I've found many a gem through scouring through the archives

I fell for it at first listen too (though It was many months before I heard the debut).

PS Phileas, I'm surprised you say that because you once wrote http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35069&KW=BEST+PROG%2Frelated+ALBUM+1979&PN=1 - HERE "My vote goes to Art Zoyd's Musique pour l'Odyssée, but Hérésie by Univers Zéro is a splendid album aswell. Eskaton's 4 Visions is also good. Western Culture by Henry Cow should have been in the poll too, a very good album. Last but not least, I'd like to mention Les Cycles du Thanatos by Vortex, an excellent French Avant-Prog album."

Opinions can change, of course.  Incidentally, everything in your list above is much loved by me.


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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 01:37

great  band, highly influenced by Magma IMO.

 
I specially enjoy Deliceuse Creature and Haroun thasckoack.
 
One of my favourite French bands


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 04:27
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

They sound very interesting. A bit like early Magma. I think I'll have to try and get that album. I won' vote yet since I have to listen to the tracks in full length first.
 
Vortex is a fabulous band, and you can score both albums in one release relatively cheaply too.
 
In Zeuhl music behind magma, I rate Vortex and Eskaton as second best.
 
Reviews coming up in, the next weeks.


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 05:43
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Dun and Univers Zero were the two bands that I immediately made comparisons with, certainly, when I got these albums.

I prefer the second album, but the first is good too.  I, also, was obsessed with the Les Cycles... album.  I've been hoping to find many more albums that are similar to it. 

ZNR's "Traite de Mecanique Populaire" is one of my latest chamber progressive music album acquisitions (not rock -- though considered Avant Prog by many -- a very good album).


I love both albums and all their tracks, including the bonus ones. (C'est Cool Raol and Prolego 1 is two of the best bonus tracks I've ever heard). Don't know what to vote for. Probably one of these: Les Cycles..., Haroun' Thasckouack or Prolegomenes .
http://www.answers.com/topic/yog-sothoth-1984-album-by-yog-sothoth?cat=entertainment -
Yog Sothoth 's selftitled album from '84, sounds like a combination of  Vortex' two releases.  (Maybe a bit less 'rock' in their avant/jazz mix). Highly reccomendable!

I also associate italian band http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7062 - Dedalus ' debut with Vortex, but I guess objectically its really not all that similar. You probably know them already, too.
 


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 17:35
Thanks Rocktopus, I'm only familiar with Dedalus debut album, and it's great!  Learned about them after getting into Picchio dal Pozzo and Area. Or was it first when there was a topic about albums with clocks over faces? Hmm, whatever...

As for Yog Sothoth, I've never heard anything by the band.  Thanks, I'll try to find some music samples.  So answers.com put them under POP artists, but they're labeled avant-garde and jazz on another page (no explanations needed, I see how they work).  According to answers.com, there are two French bands named after Lovecraft's creation.

As for Vortex' debut, I think it's great too -- I couldn't choose a favourite track off it.
This is a rare poll where the number of responses well-outweigh the number of votes.  Good.

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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 14:50
Back from the dead...
 
Got to be tracks 1 or 2 from their second. Simply astonishing! Actually we are lucky to even hear their debut. Was rumoured not to exist for donkeys! I got my vinyl copy ten years back by mistake from an Italian second-hand shop when I thought I was scoring Les Cycles. Got it home and noticed the catalogue number was different and was doin' my bollocks thinkin' I just spent 30 quid on some dodgy French glam-rock troupe with the same name.
 
Probably the rarest record in my collection!  Next to my Nik Kershaw shaped picture disc.
 


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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:04
Sleeves are here:
 
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21284&PN=10 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21284&PN=10


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:34
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


PS Phileas, I'm surprised you say that because you once wrote http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35069&KW=BEST+PROG%2Frelated+ALBUM+1979&PN=1 - HERE "My vote goes to Art Zoyd's Musique pour l'Odyssée, but Hérésie by Univers Zéro is a splendid album aswell. Eskaton's 4 Visions is also good. Western Culture by Henry Cow should have been in the poll too, a very good album. Last but not least, I'd like to mention Les Cycles du Thanatos by Vortex, an excellent French Avant-Prog album."

Opinions can change, of course.  Incidentally, everything in your list above is much loved by me.


It's good alright, but I find it a tad overrated. The funny thing is that I don't remember ever liking it as much as I seem to have done when writing the post you quote... Confused
I guess I was out of adjectives or something, either that or the album just died on me a bit with further listens. It's great when listening carefully, but it doesn't grab my attention very easily.

How does it compare to their self-titled?


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 15:38
Yukorin, welcome back, and thanks for sharing that.  Incidentally, your Les Cyles... review is one of my favourite reviews at this site (and not just because I like the album so much).

Phileas, I remembered that post of yours because I was so impressed with your choices. Speaking for myself, only: I've often rated something highly in posts when I haven't adequately listened to the music so as to have a well-developed opinion of it.  Or I'm influenced by others ratings and that temporarily clouds my judgment.  I'm sure I've mentioned albums as excellent because I've heard a  sample that I like and have read positive reviews by people whose musical tastes I tend to share, but am not that familiar with the album or artist in question.  Heck, there are a few albums I consider excellent that I haven't even heard yet. LOL

As to your question: I prefer the second album, but greatly enjoy the first.  I'd say that the first is more Zeuhlish and is more energetic (rocks more, I might say).  I think many people would find it to be the more exciting and vibrant album.  It doesn't require the same patience.  I imagine that most Progheads would find the title track of Les Cycles very tedious. Of course you're not most Progheads taste-wise.





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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 03:35
 
Thanks for the kind words man! I also enjoy reading your posts a lot (yes folks, it's a Love-in).
 
Wish I could spend more time here but it is impossible. (Long Japanese summer, the latest fashion is hot-pants, well you get the picture...)
 


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:07
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Phileas, I remembered that post of yours because I was so impressed with your choices. Speaking for myself, only: I've often rated something highly in posts when I haven't adequately listened to the music so as to have a well-developed opinion of it.  Or I'm influenced by others ratings and that temporarily clouds my judgment.  I'm sure I've mentioned albums as excellent because I've heard a  sample that I like and have read positive reviews by people whose musical tastes I tend to share, but am not that familiar with the album or artist in question.  Heck, there are a few albums I consider excellent that I haven't even heard yet. LOL


I fall victim to this too, quite often. LOL

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

As to your question: I prefer the second album, but greatly enjoy the first.  I'd say that the first is more Zeuhlish and is more energetic (rocks more, I might say).  I think many people would find it to be the more exciting and vibrant album.  It doesn't require the same patience.  I imagine that most Progheads would find the title track of Les Cycles very tedious. Of course you're not most Progheads taste-wise.


Sounds good to me, I'll see if I can get hold of the release with both albums. Smile



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