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Topic: How do you prefer your tests?
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: How do you prefer your tests?
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 11:40
If you take a non-math test, how would you like your test to be like?

_The Fill in the bubbles of Multiple Choice and True/False questions?
_The one where you fill in a blank with a phrase, word,  number, vocabulary term, etc?
_The one where you answer with a sentence or two, explaning something
_The one where you have to write several sentences and even paragraphs.
_A mixture of these.





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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 12:09
The first choice. It's difficult to guess right in an essay.


Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 12:12
I always found essays easiest because I could ramble and ramble and gradually remind myself of what my conclusion should be. When I'm just ticking boxes I get impulsive.

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 12:12
Essays. You can't get tricked by semantics or by misreading with an essay. It's also the best chance to show the professor that you understand the material even if you can't quite answer the question fully; multiple choice and fill in the blank don't allow any flexibility like that.

Also you can bullsh*t with an essay, with the others you're just playing odds.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 12:20

As a lawyer, I  always liked the oral tests, if you didn't knew the "B" issue, you could talk about "A" and "C", that normally fooled the teacher and you got a great grade anyway. Wink

In this case, very long reponses, because you can go further.
 
For my thesis I wrote a 1,800 pages essay, I'm 100% sure that none of the juries dared to read it completely, so I was very calmed because I knew I was better informed than any of them.
 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 12:35
Probably essays, especially if I'm into the subject they're testing me about. That way, you can really show what you know, and also that you can put your knowledge into words in an articulate, logical manner.

Here in Italy there is a heavy emphasis on oral testing, which can be very stressful for some people. I've never actually had any problems with that, though - as long as I knew the subject, of course...Wink


Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 18:44
Tests with long and short responses, but never too long. But my opinion may change as I've not finished highschool yet.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 19:21
Multiple-Choice / True-False please... that way I always have the right answer among the choices and I can be reminded what I know but don't remember, also I can always eliminate or guess and have a minimum chance 1/4 to be right, while if i don't know the answer to an essay question I'm really screwed.


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 19:40
Essays suck.  

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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 19:44
Multiple Choice, although 1 words are easy with memorization.
 
I hate essays. They're always way to vague. "Discuss how this question made you feel. At least 5 paragraphs."
 
I had one essay where I couldn't remember anything, so I just did a 3 paragraph discussion about how Hitler could have won WW2.
 
Yeah, it was in Science. What of it?


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 21:00
I finished my formal education nearly 30 years ago when multiple choice questions were not the norm. But I have employed an awful lot of people whose educational achievements have been assessed by the first three options in this poll and it drives me to despair. I can understand that from a students point of view all you want to do is pass the test in the easiest way, and schools, colleges and universities are looking to pass as many people as possible to make their stats look good, but in the real world those “skills” are meaningless.
 
Life isn't multiple-choice, you can't just fill in the blanks and short answers do not demonstrate any measure of understanding.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 22:16
Where is the "none" option?!?!


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 00:42
Essays allow a more hollistic approach to your knowledge of a given subject. Multiple choice strips you of any critical thinking skills you might have at your disposal.

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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 00:53
I'm fine with any. If you have all 4, it shows a very thorough comprehension of the material. Of course, I'd hate an essay for something like science, but it's great for history or English. I'm good with an even amount of all 4 throughout the year.

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 01:02
What is this essay nonsense! Confused If I want to know the material, I'll know it, but I don't want to write a bunch of words about crap I may or may not enjoy if I don't have to! Tests are practically worthless; all you ever get out of a class that betters you is what you want to get out of it through lecture and discussion. A test is just to get a grade, not to somehow make you know the material better. So, I choose multiple choice.

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Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 01:02
I'm better with certain information, and not so much critical thinking/essay writing, but I'd prefer no tests.  I learn best by experiencing things and doing things, not by cramming for tests and reading something and coming up with ideas.


Posted By: Novalis
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 01:12
I used to say multi choice was the best, but now I hate them.
They are designed to confuse...


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 01:53
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

What is this essay nonsense! Confused If I want to know the material, I'll know it, but I don't want to write a bunch of words about crap I may or may not enjoy if I don't have to! Tests are practically worthless; all you ever get out of a class that betters you is what you want to get out of it through lecture and discussion. A test is just to get a grade, not to somehow make you know the material better. So, I choose multiple choice.
 
That's how we end up with U.S. kids getting to high school without so much as basic arithmetic skills or the ability to point out the Pacific Ocean on a map. The curriculum is taught but nobody tests them to determine whether they have the basic skill sets to move on.  You have to have some standard by which you measure knowledge.  Do you really want a surgeon operating on you who has not been tested in basic anaomy and physiology? I think not. Wacko 


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:01
^ No, they have the crap tested out of them. But they forget it all after cramming because they don't care and because geography doesn't relate to the lives of dumb blonds going into nursing. Those are the kind of people that can't find the Pacific Ocean on a map. They can get paid a reasonable amount of money themselves and marry their rich lawyer who can tell them where the Pacific Ocean is if they ever need to know.

Tests are necessary because the students have to have grades somehow, but they're practically worthless in high school. The BAR exam...now that's a good kind of test.


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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:20
multiple choices, or short answers. i don't like writting whole bunch of crap that could be said with only a few simple words

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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:21
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

^ No, they have the crap tested out of them. But they forget it all after cramming because they don't care and because geography doesn't relate to the lives of dumb blonds going into nursing. Those are the kind of people that can't find the Pacific Ocean on a map. They can get paid a reasonable amount of money themselves and marry their rich lawyer who can tell them where the Pacific Ocean is if they ever need to know.

Tests are necessary because the students have to have grades somehow, but they're practically worthless in high school. The BAR exam...now that's a good kind of test.
 
1. Your comment about nursing is a baseless, rude generalization.
2. If you don't like tests you had better avoid school.


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:21
^ interestingly we don't have multiple choice tests in high school ... at least not from 3rd grade on. Intuitively I'd say that multiple choice tests are a very, very poor method of testing knowledge ... but they're cheap and take less time to evaluate for the teacher. A simple matter of priorities!

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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:27
The least amount of answers the better, unless you have to write it out...

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:28
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

^ No, they have the crap tested out of them. But they forget it all after cramming because they don't care and because geography doesn't relate to the lives of dumb blonds going into nursing. Those are the kind of people that can't find the Pacific Ocean on a map. They can get paid a reasonable amount of money themselves and marry their rich lawyer who can tell them where the Pacific Ocean is if they ever need to know.

Tests are necessary because the students have to have grades somehow, but they're practically worthless in high school. The BAR exam...now that's a good kind of test.
 
1. Your comment about nursing is a baseless, rude generalization.
2. If you don't like tests you had better avoid school.


1. Of course it is, but if you had as many dumb blonds from your school go into nursing, you'd think the same way. In fact, I said nothing about nursing as a profession other than it doesn't require a hefty knowledge of geography (does it?). If anything, I was generalizing the dumb blonds who go into nursing (because they think its an easy, cushy job).
2. Who likes tests? Confused No one goes to school to take tests, they go to school to get an education. Tests are an unfortunate consequence.


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:35
I don't think that nursing is an easy or "cushy" job ... 

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:37
I wouldn't know, but it seems to be the default option for a lot of the heavy-drinking bimbos in my graduating class....

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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:49

I like mine short and easy.Wink

I'm glad my I passed my PT board exam 3 years ago. 600 items all in multiple choices.



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:53
Mabuhay, MM! It's been awhile since you've been here.

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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:54
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I wouldn't know, but it seems to be the default option for a lot of the heavy-drinking bimbos in my graduating class....
 
 
Guess when it becomes an unattractive option to them...about the time of their first test.


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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 02:57

Hello Stoney. Guess what I felt when I saw your thread about depression:

A. Concerned

B. Worried

C. Both A and B

Pencils down.
Pass yor papers, finished or not.Wink


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 06:18
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

I like mine short and easy.Wink

I'm glad my I passed my PT board exam 3 years ago. 600 items all in multiple choices.

You have exams in Porcupine Tree??!!! Shocked 600 questions!! That beats the 10 Genesis questions on MasterMind.
 
I've just realised this Poll is a multiple choice and my previous answer was an essay.Confused
 
Stoney, I'd keep you thoughts to yourself next time you go into hostpital to have your tonsils out, that dumb blond heavy drinking bimbo nurse might just get the operating table the wrong way around. Ouch
 
And don't ask her to prick your boil. Shocked LOL
 
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 09:40
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

I like mine short and easy.Wink

I'm glad my I passed my PT board exam 3 years ago. 600 items all in multiple choices.

You have exams in Porcupine Tree??!!! Shocked 600 questions!! That beats the 10 Genesis questions on MasterMind.
 
I've just realised this Poll is a multiple choice and my previous answer was an essay.Confused
 
Stoney, I'd keep you thoughts to yourself next time you go into hostpital to have your tonsils out, that dumb blond heavy drinking bimbo nurse might just get the operating table the wrong way around. Ouch
 
And don't ask her to prick your boil. Shocked LOL
 
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Physical Therapy that is.LOL


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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 09:53
Oh no..... please..... I still have another long year and a half to end the bloody school.... and tests suck balls.... I have one tomorrow, it's with double mark... and yet math!!!! Dead

In this moment I just hope to not drop out the year.......... ... ...

Edit: btw, I choose the easiest choice: True of false / Multiple options Wink


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 04:35
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Stoney, I'd keep you thoughts to yourself next time you go into hostpital to have your tonsils out, that dumb blond heavy drinking bimbo nurse might just get the operating table the wrong way around. Ouch
 
And don't ask her to prick your boil. Shocked LOL
 
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If it has yet to be noted, I am a nurse.
 
And I look much more like the figure on the right than the figure on the left.
 
And Stonebeard, please be aware that classroom tests are butterfly kisses compared to the tests my clients take on a daily basis. And they are frequently pass/fail. 
 


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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 04:42
No, I think Stony boy was talking about regular nurses not RN's.  I go to a community college with one of the best nursing schools(at least it's what I've heard.). The serious nursing students all want to be an RN, the "heavy-drinking bimbos" either drop out or becomes those nurses who have no actual responsibilities, they're pretty much receptionists.


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 04:47
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

I like mine short and easy.Wink

I'm glad my I passed my PT board exam 3 years ago. 600 items all in multiple choices.

 
 
 
That's a lot of questions for your boards.  NCLEX here has a min. 75 max. 269.  Do your boards have primarily concrete knowledge or a bunch of prioritizing and delegation questions?
 
Any plans on coming to work in the states?  I could use a nice fat referral bonus?Thumbs%20Up J/K, I think overseas referral bonuses are limitted to recruiters.  But I will say this, I really appreciate our PT's for getting the patients moving when I'm buried in paperwork.  Never let anybody marginalize the job you do.


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 04:58
Originally posted by king of Siam king of Siam wrote:

No, I think Stony boy was talking about regular nurses not RN's.  I go to a community college with one of the best nursing schools(at least it's what I've heard.). The serious nursing students all want to be an RN, the "heavy-drinking bimbos" either drop out or becomes those nurses who have no actual responsibilities, they're pretty much receptionists.
 
You are referring to 'Nursing Assistants', sometimes called 'Patient Care Techs' or probably a bunch of other terms depending on where you go (and with the international contingent on this site, I'm sure it is quite variable). And believe me, I depend on them and they work very hard.  There are obviously exceptions to any rule, but a health care setting is one of the harder places to avoid responsibility.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what Community College would that be?


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