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Topic: Jazz Rock Fusion Albums of 2007
Posted By: Dick Heath
Subject: Jazz Rock Fusion Albums of 2007
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 12:17
A good year for (straight) jazz rock fusion, so what IYHO is the best of the best?
One 2006 release, which didn't take off until earlier this year.


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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 12:31

woa, that's a lot of stuff.  I haven't listened to much new fusion, but I quite like Hellborg's Art Metal (the only recording of his that I've heard).



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 12:40
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

woa, that's a lot of stuff.  I haven't listened to much new fusion, but I quite like Hellborg's Art Metal (the only recording of his that I've heard).

 
Limited to albums which have charted in the specialist jazz press/media. If you go to Abstractlogix's site, for instance, and you could easily double that number, just with releases from N America  and I've omitted a couple of German albums, several French, a couple of Austrian, Japanese? etc.. Could have broaden to nu.fusion, e.g. Eivind Aarset (Sonic Codex) or EST (Live In Hamburg), Supersister..... For jazz fusion fans of various hues, a good year!


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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 12:48
Wow....what is your opinion of all these, Dick? Are they all worth getting?

I've only heard Art Metal, I see some big names on there though that I have heard plenty of, just not the new albums.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 13:11
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Wow....what is your opinion of all these, Dick? Are they all worth getting?

I've only heard Art Metal, I see some big names on there though that I have heard plenty of, just not the new albums.
I'll admit there's three I haven't heard , but I've read independent reviews stating that others think the respective albums are excellent, e.g Stanley Clarke, Corea/Fleck, Vital Information - and so on my pending order list (in fact just ordered the Stanley Clarke, at a stupidly cheap price at Amazon. UK in last 10 minutes). Every other one I've either had as promos or purchased, and  all have given pleasure. Personally I can't differentiate between the Machacek/Sipe/Garrison and the Hellborg as the best for me. The Hornsby/DeJohnette/McBride was a very good surprise, for an acoustic set by Bruce Hornsby. T Latvitz's  album is also largely acoustic, apart from Jerry Goodman's violin on 3 tracks and the occasional electric bass from John Patitucci. Jean Luc Ponty's is a sort of return to form but IMHO not one of his top 5, straight jazz rock albums - but worth it for his pushing Holdsworth on one track. Machacek's [sic] is perhaps the most musical complex, wrt to complex rhythms employed. Theo Travis is demonstrating himself to be one of the best 'woodwind' players (sax and flute) around in the UK, with his new solo album and stepping in Elton Dean's shoes in Soft Machine Legacy.  There was considerable praise for Hectic Watermelon's first album earlier this year on this site - and perhaps this is one of  three albums listed that is in the newer American jazz rock style: also Gary Willis's , Uncle Moes Space Ranch's (use of drum'n'bass, sampling/turntablism etc.). Tal Wilkenfield is the 18 years Aussie lady currently touring with Jeff Beck, but on her solo album has the most excellent  Wayne Krantz on guitar (check his own site for some excellent melodic jazz rock improv) - and Iranian born guitarist Ahmad Mansour has produced a live album, listed in the poll,  which strongly reminds me of  Wayne Krantz. Hiromi is great alone but here  has Fuze on board playing guitar, which is even better. Finally really enjoyed Alan Pasqua's album over the last few weeks - great old fashioned (?) Fender Rhodes playing, plus the presence of avant fusion guitarist  Nels Cline, in the territory of late 70's Miles Davis or Ian Carr's Nucleus, but still sounding fresh and new. (Pasqua and Holdsworth at London's Queen Elizabeth Hall in May was my favourite gig in 2007, plus their DVD Live At Yoshi's my favourite DVD - least favourite gig: Metheny/Mehldau at Birmingham Symphony Hall in June).
 
One I left out, Afsar Sirkis & Inner Noise The Song Within, (Sirkis is an Israeli drummer based in London), featured an English church organ of the sort that can be heard in many Anglican churchs (and therefore nothing like those monster pipe organs  Wakeman occasionally plays), and gave this jazz fusion quite an unusual sound.


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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 13:13
I'd love to see which album gets the most votes, since I haven't heard any of these yet, although I've bought copies (which I'm guarding jealously!) of TIME CONTROL, STEAM and DOUBLE TALK.


Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 13:37
Some good fusion came out this year (most notably)...
 
Medeski Scofield Martin Wood- Out Louder (MMW are great, but with Scofield this is insane!
Mclaughlin Pastorius Williams- Trio of Doom (nothing like this will ever happen again)
I saw Mclaughlin and the 4th Dimension but I havent heard the bootleg, but judging by my concert experience I am sure its awesome.


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 05:26

Can I read from the lack of response here to a semi-serious poll, that  too many locals who profess to liking jazz rock fusion, are stuck on retro jazz fusion of the 70's and not keeping up with the dynamics of new 21st century acts and performances? Thereby miss one helluva lot of excellent PROGRESSING music?

 
Or what?


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 08:38
Hadrian Feraud.  The next Jaco???


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 12:59
I vote for "other". This one gets my vote:

And here is the reason why. Just look at these clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flr8ykZ0tQc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flr8ykZ0tQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goImugXFz9c&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goImugXFz9c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVR2JFPZhMs&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVR2JFPZhMs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lHffmK96lQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lHffmK96lQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related

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Posted By: SFranke
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 14:04
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Can I read from the lack of response here to a semi-serious poll, that  too many locals who profess to liking jazz rock fusion, are stuck on retro jazz fusion of the 70's and not keeping up with the dynamics of new 21st century acts and performances? Thereby miss one helluva lot of excellent PROGRESSING music?

 
Or what?
Speaking for myself, I rely heavily on PA when choosing the next album I purchase. I love 70s fusion and most of the albums I've listened to are from the 70s. This is due to the abundance of reviews and recommendations on fusion from this time and the fact that albums from that time are very affordable (Amazon.com's 4-for-3 promotion allows one to purchase 4 classics for $30 or less, for example).

I would love to learn more about the current field of fusion. I listen to Planet X, Béla Fleck & the Flecktones, and others, and I purchased Art Metal based on your recommendation, Mr Heath (I've not yet heard it, as I've about 90(!) albums to listen to first. The samples on the label's site floored me, though.). But without the reviews or discussion, I'm more wary of the risk involved in taking a chance on an album.

I've heard grumblings about the fact that Close to the Edge has 700+ reviews, or the most reviewed album of the week is usually something from the first half of the 70s, and I'm inclined to agree with that displeasure. It seems that just as I am apprehensive when making a blind buy, so are others of reviewing an album in which their own opinion might stand out. Check out how many of the raters of, say, DT's Systematic Chaos or of any of the top 6 albums go on to review other albums. Meanwhile, Art Metal has but one review, but at least the review is from an expert. The comparison is not fair, I realize, but from someone who is new to progressive rock and fusion, the disparity suggests that Art Metal is unknown and not celebrated for a reason. I should talk, though, as I've not reviewed any albums.

I was unaware Stanley Clarke released an album this year, but thanks to your list and the Amazon.com samples, I probably will check it out one day. So thank you for keeping the PA community abreast of the world of fusion. It's too bad that you've no peer around these parts.


Posted By: Urs Blank
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 17:54

I don't know most of these albums, but from the few I have listen to I choose Trio Of Doom. Pastorius is really groovin', and McLaughlin is excellent, as usual!



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 18:05
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Can I read from the lack of response here to a semi-serious poll, that  too many locals who profess to liking jazz rock fusion, are stuck on retro jazz fusion of the 70's and not keeping up with the dynamics of new 21st century acts and performances? Thereby miss one helluva lot of excellent PROGRESSING music?

 
Or what?


pretty much   LOL

on the other hand, Dick, you've given us some new music to look for Clap





Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 18:40
I'm aware of about half of those releases, though I've yet to hear any of them Embarrassed.
 
Not strictly speaking fusion, but I would recommend Glow by Dhaffer Youssef and Wolfgang Muthspiel. I've also been picking up on a lot of the Thrill Jockey artists like Chicago Underground Duo/Trio/Quartet and Isotope 217, who are in the same general orbit as Tortoise but much more jazz oriented; cornet player Rob Mazurek, guitarist Jeff Parker and drummer Chad Taylor are mainstays of that scene and are all excellent players.
 
I've got one album by Hadouk which I found a bit disappointing, especially as I rate Didier malherbe so highly, but I might give them another chance.


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 20 2007 at 00:59
Of that list, I"ve only heard three. Embarrassed
 
Of those three, Uncle Moe's Space Ranch and Hectic Watermelon standout. (with the thrid being Trio Of Doom)
 
I won't cast an offical vote though.


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 20 2007 at 06:05
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I vote for "other". This one gets my vote:

And here is the reason why. Just look at these clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flr8ykZ0tQc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flr8ykZ0tQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goImugXFz9c&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goImugXFz9c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVR2JFPZhMs&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVR2JFPZhMs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lHffmK96lQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lHffmK96lQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related
 
Is that the Hadouk album that oneof France's top jazz prizes this year?


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 20 2007 at 06:21
Originally posted by SFranke SFranke wrote:


I was unaware Stanley Clarke released an album this year, but thanks to your list and the Amazon.com samples, I probably will check it out one day. So thank you for keeping the PA community abreast of the world of fusion. It's too bad that you've no peer around these parts.
 
Thanks for your comments - as one of the older members here (goodness I became a grandddad on Tuesday!!!Confused), I do feel some responsibility to encourage a progressive community to do  more progressing with some of their music LOL.
 
Personally I believe jazz rock and  the broader area of jazz fusion, have managed to develop/progress very well over the last 15 years with some stunning albums - but admittedly not at the output rate of stunning albums released originally in the early 70's. The introduction of nu.jazz and nu.jazz  over the last decade has enlivened the scene, as well as those musicians still evolving the more traditional forms of jazz fusion that appeared in the late 60's. Problem is that too many bands nowadays are forced to either independently release their own records or reliant on underfunded small record labels, both lacking good (worldwide) distribution and the associated media attention. Fortunately one beneft of the WWW is that like-minded folks can be concentrated together to exchange news and views, and tell others what good music is being released in their part of the world. So ironically while the hardcore jazz rock fusion community is small, if you know where to look on the web, you can find far more info on jazz rock fusion than ever before. Plus, the specialist webstores set up - US-based Abstractlogix is the one many people in the jazz rock fusion fraternity mention nowadays. However, I'm always amazed that Amazon.UK have 80% of the jazz fusion records I read about, and through their marketplace deals, often can be imported into the UK at remarkably low prices (cf. import costs up until about 5 years ago).


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: December 20 2007 at 08:39
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I vote for "other". This one gets my vote:

And here is the reason why. Just look at these clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flr8ykZ0tQc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flr8ykZ0tQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goImugXFz9c&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goImugXFz9c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVR2JFPZhMs&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVR2JFPZhMs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lHffmK96lQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lHffmK96lQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0gYpRiCns&feature=related
 
Is that the Hadouk album that oneof France's top jazz prizes this year?

Yes it is. The music in the clips is not identical with the music of the album though; they are just clips of Hadouk which are available at YouTube. Definitely recommended listening.


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 20 2007 at 11:03
^ I'll listen to their 2006 album later - it's available on Napster.

But my vote goes to Jonas Hellborg's Art Metal ... it wowed me.Big%20smile


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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: December 20 2007 at 11:25
i've only got 3 of the albums listed in the poll) Theo Travis, Trio of Doom, MMWS) and my tastes seem to be more towards the nu.fusion and related stuff rather than the more straight jazz rock fusion.

anyways the response to this poll is a helluva lot better than that nu.fusion/nu.jazz poll i started in 'general music discussions' heheheh


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 20 2007 at 13:13
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

i've only got 3 of the albums listed in the poll)

anyways the response to this poll is a helluva lot better than that nu.fusion/nu.jazz poll i started in 'general music discussions' heheheh
Keep working on it


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 03:03
trio of doom. i wish that those three could have recorded more music together. 


Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 17:15

The only cd listed I have is Hectic Watermelon. Heard some of the other songs on your show. "Art Metal", though interesting, is a bit too much of everything for me. I like Hiromi so far. And the songs I heard of Bruce Hornsby are indeed a pleasant surprise.

 
 



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