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Topic: the official Krobak appreciation thread
Posted By: sean
Subject: the official Krobak appreciation thread
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 17:00
So, finally a thread to celebrate the new Ukrainian post-rock legends, Krobak, recently added to the archives.
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3397 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3397



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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 17:43
hey, thanks a lot!!!

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36903&PN=1 - an old KROBAK thread


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 17:50
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

hey, thanks a lot!!!

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36903&PN=1 - an old KROBAK thread
 
well we can't worry about those old suggest new bands threads now that you're famous and included. now we have to focus on appreciation and recommending you and getting you in the top albums of 2007.


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 21 2007 at 19:49
I was listening to Krobak when I opened this.


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 10:35
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

I was listening to Krobak when I opened this.
 
 
well, that's pretty appreciative, so it fits the thread nicely. Smile 
 
i'm personally in the mood for chaos right now so i'm afraid post-rock won't work for me now, but i'm sure i'll give them yet another listen later.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 10:50
SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM

By the way, if you want to review our split, just PM me. Make yourself sure that you'll write this review

SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM


Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 14:40
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

So, finally a thread to celebrate the new Ukrainian post-rock legends, Krobak, recently added to the archives.
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3397 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3397


Oh Boy. Legend already?!  LOL Wink

You're going fast Igor! Tongue



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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 15:54
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:


Oh Boy. Legend already?!  LOL WinkYou're going fast Igor! Tongue


good Lord, I'm frightened!!!

Any reviews expected for a Legend, cham?   


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 24 2007 at 19:05
MERRY CHRISTMAS everybody!

any reviews expected?


Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: December 24 2007 at 19:26
Calm yourself Igor, I've got one in the worksLOL
 
Great stuff!


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 25 2007 at 11:04
danke)))


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 25 2007 at 12:56
Would you review the album Igor?


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 25 2007 at 13:03
seriously I dunno it's moral issue, y'know...on the one hand, I can always have a 5-star rating on my side ...but may I?


Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 00:18
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

seriously I dunno it's moral issue, y'know...on the one hand, I can always have a 5-star rating on my side ...but may I?
 
Why not? The big man himself, Steve Wilson does it LOL


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 01:08
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

seriously I dunno it's moral issue, y'know...on the one hand, I can always have a 5-star rating on my side ...but may I?
 
Why not? The big man himself, Steve Wilson does it LOL
 
Well then that's just begging you to do it. Wink
Plus, it is always nice to hear what an artist thinks of their own work compared to your own thoughts on it.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 04:44
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

seriously I dunno it's moral issue, y'know...on the one hand, I can always have a 5-star rating on my side ...but may I?

 

Why not? The big man himself, Steve Wilson does it LOL


damn, you're reading my mind!!! Just thought about it...Well, then...maybe


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 12:29
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

seriously I dunno it's moral issue, y'know...on the one hand, I can always have a 5-star rating on my side ...but may I?

 

Why not? The big man himself, Steve Wilson does it LOL


damn, you're reading my mind!!! Just thought about it...Well, then...maybe


Do it.


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 13:39
I`ve got to recover from the intensity of the stuff he has on his myspace before I write another review.Cool !

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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 15:37
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I`ve got to recover from the intensity of the stuff he has on his myspace before I write another review.Cool !
 
so when can we expect the review? that's going to be a long recovery. Wink


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 06:41
Okay, you just made me do it!!!)))

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=156977 - KROBAK / KRIKSTON split review


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 11:07
Hey guys, I think today is that guy from Krobak's birthday.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 11:37
I've kinda told that in my kinda review


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 14:48
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Okay, you just made me do it!!!)))

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=156977 - KROBAK / KRIKSTON split review
 
Nice review, you were pretty objective too. Only a 4.5 and not proclaiming it the best album ever made (until your next one comes out) and giving it 10 stars? I don't think that's pretentious and progressive enough for this site. Wink
 
also, happy birthday!Smile


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 16:45
thanks


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 16:49
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

thanks
 
don't be so embarassed looking with your red cheeks.Wink


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 16:51
also, any news on when your full length album is going to be released? hopefully this will have more than 33 copies available.


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 16:58
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

I've kinda told that in my kinda review



I posted that before your review I believe.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 18:02
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

also, any news on when your full length album is going to be released? hopefully this will have more than 33 copies available.


hope so...no definite date is set for now, but hopefully this Winter


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 20:19
I lied, you beat me to it. I feel like an ass.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 03:59
come on, this is your 2000th post! Don't be upset


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 30 2007 at 14:32
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=157148 - thanks Angelo for review!


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 06:32
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=157225 - Rico's masterlines review



Funny enough - no one from Post-Rock team hasn't reviewed us yet!


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 06:38
that's two S, at the back: MasterlinessWink

Approve, thanks right back at you for the good music.

I'm sure chamberry would review it at a point. Thumbs%20Up


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 06:45
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

that's two S, at the back: Masterliness. Wink


I'm already celebrating


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 15:27
untouched since last year

I've lowered my review's rating from 5 to 4 stars...5 stars were kinda...hyped...unfair...erm...

Now waiting for anyone who'd give me these 5 stars back


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 05:01
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=157919 - SINKADOTENTREE's review (a.k.a. John Davie) makes me feel proud (for obvious reasons) and guilty (because no debut released album yet )


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 04:55
Cham, Assaf? What do you think?


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 11:55
two more songs on KROBAK's MySpace, check them


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 16:31
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

two more songs on KROBAK's MySpace, check them


Awesome. I just hope you're not pulling a Guns N Roses and not giving us the full album for ten years, the difference  being that I actually enjoy listening to Krobak so GET THE ALBUM OUT!
But I guess the stupid record labels haven't discovered Krobak, which is a shame.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 16:43
patience is the only cure, my friend [wiseman]

no, no G'n'R kind of thing here - to be fairly honest, I already got a second album ready and currently working on a third record, which is supposed to be a lot HEAVIER than previous ones


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 20:23
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

patience is the only cure, my friend [wiseman]

no, no G'n'R kind of thing here - to be fairly honest, I already got a second album ready and currently working on a third record, which is supposed to be a lot HEAVIER than previous ones



Wow, you're pretty prolific. It's too bad it's so difficult to get label attention. In what sort of way is it going to be heavy? Will you be adding brutal riffage and death grunts to your post-rock?


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 07:17
No, mostly Post-Metal kind of thing. The same epic post-rock just heavier


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 08:56
I actually have heard very little post metal, all I'm really familiar with is Isis, so I'm not really sure what to expect, but that's usually a good thing. 


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 30 2008 at 10:55
 "KROBAK is ready for the world but, unfortunately, the world is not ready for KROBAK."

That`s a quote from my upcoming review there Igor. Finally listened to Amnesia, so it`s coming!



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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 10:15
wow pathos


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 11:18
It get`s deeper just wait for it Stern%20Smile

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 11:28


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 06 2008 at 11:32
and?..


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 08 2008 at 20:02
damn...I owe you a review Igor...  

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 16 2008 at 17:12
while others owe , Assaf does! http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=161965 - Detailed and informative as ever , decent review with some important ideas...don't miss it!


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 16 2008 at 17:16
bear with me.. in case you haven't noticed.. I have been inspired by Raff's return to reviewing and have done more reviews in the last week than in the previous  6 months.  So I defintely will get to it.  I owe two people specifically...reviews.  And you are tops on that list.  LOL

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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 16 2008 at 17:55
Igor, I'm listening to your stuff right now, but I just found out that I'm missing the song diary of a missed one...

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 16 2008 at 18:02
It was known as Album's Preview (because it really is ) on KROBAK's MySpace...I'll send to you later...and I already thinkinh og uploading the whole split to the Net...just ask my KRIKSTON buddy if he minds (I believe he won't)


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 16 2008 at 18:04
great review Assaf! 

../artist.asp?id=3397 - KROBAK

Structura Tortura

2007

Boxset/Compilation

Review | ../album.asp?id=17419 - Album details | ../album.asp?id=17419#reviews - All reviews | ../Review.asp?id=161965#buymusic - Buy Music
Review by ../Collaborators.asp?id=4595 - avestin (Assaf Vestin)
[Special Collaborator Zeuhl/RIO/Avant Team]
Posted 4:05:22 PM EST, 2/16/2008

3%20stars In the beginning he had a Split

I am lucky to know Igor (Sidorenko) and to have received a copy of his first release, the split with Krikston, Structura Tortura. Igor was kind enough to offer this split to me and in return I promised to write a review of it.

Reminiscing of the atmosphere found in GYBE’s albums (as well as in others like Mono and Larua) the music travels from the quiet, low-profile and serene to higher planes of the guitar climaxes.

The (very) slow build up in Amnesia is well done; it’s not devoid of melody, meaning it is not just a structural approach of letting the guitar and percussions create a slowly developing rhythm and pattern. The melody starts in this part, creating the core already there (it is not always the case, like I hear in other post-rock bands). The string (synth) backup gives a nice soothing touch to the tune (reminds me of a soundtrack a-la Clint Mansell). However I feel there could have been more delivered in this track; more development, introducing another musical idea or theme, add a contrasting instrument or sound to the synth and guitar or have them play together. Of the three tracks, this is my favourite one.

The Diary Of The Missed one starts with an interesting effect of a guitar followed by two over layers of guitars, with again a GYBEian or even EITSian sound. It’s sounds like a short jam and at first I wasn’t sure where this will lead. And indeed it changes style/sound (but keeps the main idea and atmosphere. Nicely done and keeps the flow. However, here it comes to what I hear as a more derivative sound in the climax. This is where I think Igor will need to change, bring other ideas, creative and more original to create his own sound. That is, if he intends on separating himself from the “herd”. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not bad at all. In fact it’s pretty good and I enjoy listening to it; but in order to establish a musical identity (if one is indeed wanted), then going on one’s own musical journey and experimentation is required to achieve that goal. Around the 8 minute in the track comes a part which illustrates some of what I mean; the introduction of the piano and other sounds on the synth and the effects on the background is a good start to get there. The quick change a minute and a half later is a technique he could also use more to attain that objective. However, in general I think this particular track is lacking a connecting thread (unless such proposition was not intended to begin with); I like the way it jumps from idea to idea, but at times it feels like a bunch of ideas, was condensed into one track. And these different ingredients don’t necessarily go with each other hand in hand (though mostly they do, but at times it feels like one idea had simply run its course and another unrelated one was brought in to replace it).

The Fried Bull’s Waltz has a promising abstract intro made up of a loud raw guitar riffing away in intervals. The sudden adding of percussion is done well. The effects with the guitar are a good addition and create a slightly eerie atmosphere, somewhat spacey in nature but this is counteracted by the rawness of the guitar (which sounds slightly skewed). This long episode/intro is a promising one, I find and can be the basis for many different interpretations and build ups. However it lingers too long and remains undeveloped. I think he missed a good opportunity here to do many interesting things with this basic pattern. Playing with effects to give a psychedelic trip is a good idea, but I just feel this could have been done otherwise, or rather been developed in various directions. However I do like the eerie (even creepy) and psychedelic mood he develops with the guitar and its effects.

This music deserves a full lineup of musicians performing it; it will sound sublime. However, kudos for Igor for pulling it off himself and making it sound this good.

Based on this release, I think Igor will do great in his future musical career.



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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 18 2008 at 15:32
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46351 - KROBAK album released!!!


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: February 18 2008 at 17:59
great news! i posted something similar in the other thread but it's never a bad thing to reiterate something like that. 


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 24 2008 at 08:17
New EP released! It's called "Vorkoma", it contians 4 guitar-only (mostly) tracks and it's free to download via http://myspace.com/vorkomaep - MySpace and http://www.lastfm.ru/music/Krobak/Vorkoma - LastFM . CD release is also planned, later this Spring


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: March 03 2008 at 03:12
Here's my review of "Vorkoma"

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=163076 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=163076

please don't be too upset since i only gave it four stars


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 03 2008 at 14:33
[>;D<]

thanks a lot!!! in fact, I'd give it 4 stars as well I need to gather me up and write a review!


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: March 03 2008 at 18:33
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

[>;D<]

thanks a lot!!! in fact, I'd give it 4 stars as well I need to gather me up and write a review!


at least you're objective when it comes to your own work. Smile


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 04 2008 at 09:14
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:


at least you're objective when it comes to your own work. Smile


hell no! I'm gonna give 5 stars to LP!!!


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: March 04 2008 at 10:36
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by sean sean wrote:


at least you're objective when it comes to your own work. Smile


hell no! I'm gonna give 5 stars to LP!!!

yeah but you gave four to both EPs so that averages to four and  a third stars so it has to count for something. Wink


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 17:57
Thanks to Jody for uploading "By the Music of Autumn Trees" to PA player

It looks like now you can get my album for free listening You can download "Park Luny" on http://www.myspace.com/progjester - MySpace , listen to abovementioned one here and check a bit re-arranged versions of both "The Fried Bull's Blues" parts - first one is streamable on MySpace, and second one is legally download-able http://freemusic.org.ru/ru/node/2279 - here . Enjoy!!!


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 19 2008 at 12:06
My fellow proghead from Russia wrote http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=164265 - a review on my humble effort...hope some other folks will bother as well . Good luck with it!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 26 2008 at 14:36
Igor, I've just finished listening to Diary of a Missed One and I'm stunned, its supurb. Until just, I had yet to find anything in Post rock that really grabed me, but this is better than the Sigur Ros and Godspeed albums I own.Thumbs%20Up 

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 26 2008 at 15:09
THANKS A LOT!!!!!!!!!

this is what makes me go on with my music . Amazing...hope for a lil' reviewing too


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 09:18
^Oh, I'll definitely review it, just dont expect it soon.

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 09:30
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Igor, I've just finished listening to Diary of a Missed One and I'm stunned, its supurb. Until just, I had yet to find anything in Post rock that really grabed me, but this is better than the Sigur Ros and Godspeed albums I own.Thumbs%20Up 



I'm with you. I never listen to my GSYBE, or Sigur Rós albums. "Diary of the Missed One" has no problem finding its way to my stereo.



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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 12:09
he-he, it works!!!

Just changed track order on http://www.myspace.com/vorkomaep - Vorkoma EP MySpace page...the problem is that most people check only few first tracks (or the only first one) and barely care for others . Now the order is 4th-3rd-2nd-1st instead of usual 1-2-3-4


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 03 2008 at 10:26
http://www.heathenharvest.com/article.php?story=20080328105701915 - new split review


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 10:16
just wanna get some attention here I mean I was promised so many reviews...and now wondering where they are It's stupid to beg for reviewing but seriously...I just want to know what do you think and how you'd rate it

Okay, nevermind. Just a lil' bit upset today    


Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 18:31
sup Prog-jester. I'm writing a review for you, should be up tomorrow.

They say no publicity is bad publicity. o:)

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 24 2008 at 13:39
Ouch! That was rude!

Well, yes, each one has its own opinion. Like Alexander, for example - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=168606 - this is how he feel it


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 04:24
thanks Rico for reviewing! Expecting the other ones too

http://rapidshare.com/files/115727072/2.AVI.html - A fragment of my gig in Odessa (30 seconds from "The Fried Bull's Blues")


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 06:11
http://rapidshare.com/files/115745177/4.AVI.html - A minute from "Park Luny"


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 06:19
Ouch, this thread popping up in 'Active topics' reminds me I still ow you a review... kick me if it takes to long.Ouch

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I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 06:58
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

kick me if it takes to long.Ouch


done

Additional kicks to cham, Ian, sleeper and half-the-Archives

Have you checked the video?


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 07:00
Not yet, but I will. Oh, and next time kick a bit to the left so you don't hit my pelvis.

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http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 07:22
Okay



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