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Topic: Godspeed You! Black Emperor are no more
Posted By: Prog-jester
Subject: Godspeed You! Black Emperor are no more
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 10:03
http://www.nme.com/news/godspeed-you-black-emperor/34219 - It's official 
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 10:39
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That's so sad, but.. that is this "Tony little hammers" thing? I never heard of that.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 10:48
never heard of Tiny Little Hammers as well (now d/loading them  to check if it's Godspeed thing)
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 10:57
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Well, let me know when you get them, and maybe you can, uuuh...help me out, if it's any good? :)
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 10:58
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Very sad news, I was getting anxious for a fourth masterpiece.
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 11:06
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That's fifth, Rico. There's another f in there.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 11:09
no, the EP is not a masterpiece.  only the big gun albums are. for me, of course... -------------
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Evans wrote:Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 11:46
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That is sad, even though I never really did expect them to get back together. The "Tiny Little Hammers" EP doesn't actually exist.... whoever wrote the article didn't do their research very well. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 11:47
| Well they ran their course. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 12:09
But it's mentioned on Wikipedia too.  -------------
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 12:22
Knowing GY!BE, it's probably an amazing record that they recorded onto a single mastertape, and then destroyed it just because they could. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Antennas
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 13:08
That totally, entirely SUCKS...  
One of the few bands that indeed fully deserved the name PROGRESSIVE... -------------  Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 13:09
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considering Tiny Little Hammers - it has thousands of listenings on LastFM UPDATE: listening to d/loaded file, part 1. This is simply live version of Motherf**ker=Redeemer 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 13:13
few?! -------------
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 13:39
Okay, relax everybody, Tiny Little Hammers is crappy recorded Motherf**ker=Redeemer bootleg in it's entire 33-minute version, listenable but non-essential. I wonder why it was included in their discography on wiki 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 14:29
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Well, I wasn't exactly expecting them to get back together, really. It's sad news, but A Silver Mt Zion is just as good.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 15:26
| it's different musically...but it's the same way awesome spiritually, I agree |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 15:50
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it's not very different musically (though skinnier and more experimental, free-style moments make the bliss out of it), but it's definitely different spiritually (sad, depressing, pessimistic over the edge, poetic over the hardest words and feelings).
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Posted By: AceBad
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 16:00
How can you say that!! "Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada" is amazing! I think it's their greatest work... ------------- http://barddog.org/acebad - http://barddog.org/acebad |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 16:01
and Godspeed WASN'T the latter? WIth the exception of Lift your Skinny Fists, they're one of the darkest bands I've ever heard -------------  |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 21:12
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OH f**k. ------------- 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 21:28
The saddest news that I'll probably hear in 2008. I don't know what else to say...
Tiny Little Hammers is a bootleg of Motherfvcker=Redeemer. Not really an official release as some might think. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 01:37
Yeah, but Silver Mt. Zion go even deeper. Godspeed You! Black Emperor are almost more "monumental' and instrumental in their work, trying to create or portrait static, chaotic, fervent worlds, after going into real stuff like apocalyptic dark impulses, mind-bursting reflections, sorrow and stressful motions - and so - as far as the message or the quality of the dark show goes. In Silver Mt. Zion, I can almost hear the pure moan, unleash of depression, spill of the mind, hazy introvertion etc. -------------
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 01:38
I know what the general opinion is on Slow Riot...I just don't think, myself, that's it's the excellent stuff from the full major works. It's detached, as style and spirit, directly from F#a#, some moments are great, the others just okay. -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 02:33
 It's always so hard to accept it's finished, even if the band were on hiatus from 2003 onward. Even worse considering I only discovered them last month too, but a great discovery it was ------------- 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 02:47
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
Easily my favorite post-rock band and through them I discovered the whole post-rock genre.
I'll have to have a GY!BE marathon now. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 03:03
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good idea, I'll listen to the albums next week as well. -------------
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Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 03:57
| I already assumed the band had broken up but i suppose they finally decided to submit an excuse to fans so they would stop asking. I don't understand why they would make such an obviously veiled excuse, but i understand why they would finally want to make the break up "official". |
Posted By: donkeyrobsbank
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 06:03
ok, so now their strangely pretentious (and yet so shallow) political/ anarchical attitude is preventing them from creating music (and musically they've been one my absolute favorites), these guys definitely have a problem: they think too much and i think it's really sad what has happened to the sound of asmz (to song-oriented, to much singing), but this a different problem, concerning post rock i'll have to stick to set fire to flames and fly pan am, by far most fascinating (and literally progressive) godspeed-side projects |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 10:33
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I'm gutted at the news but nothing last forever I guess. When you consider that the collective was a constantly evolving beast with many musical offshoots, I for one am glad that they were around for as long as they were. I only got to see them a couple of times, once on the Lift Yr Skinny Hands... tour down at a place called the Cat club in Bordeaux (France) which still ranks as the best gig I've ever witnessed. The club was down on the dockside in what looked like a set straight out of a David Lynch movie (all industrial and smokey - if you imagine Eraserhead, you'll know what I mean). At the end of the show, the band marched out through the audience playing all manner of percussion. I was a stunned little beastie for the rest of the night. The second time was at The Ocean club in Hackney (London) and was lucky enough to have had a chat with a coupe of the guys in the bar before the show. We talked about touring (specifically, how it always seems to be guitar amps that break down first on any tour  ) and were very sweet guys to be around. On stage, I could hardly recognize the people I had just spoken to and for a few hours, The Ocean became a haunted house.They were simply magical and we shall not see their like again. "we woke up one morning and fell a little further down" GSYBE - Dead Flag Blues  ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 11:33
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 11:40
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'... the sun has fallen down and the billboards are all leering and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles...' GYBE - Dead Flag Blues -------------  Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: d.o.k
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 12:56
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sh*t ! i was waiting at least for en EP which could have contained "Albanian" and "Gamelan", two amazing pieces only played live (to my knowledge).
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 12:59
I have taken it cham...if you don't mind...
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 18:47
Can you give me credit for it? -------------
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 18:53
That would've been great, but the live versions that I have from sound just like a studio recording except for the end of the song where the audience applauds. BTW, The band never had problems with one downloading their bootlegs and they can be downloaded legally from their website and archives.org and that includes Albanian and Gamelan. That's right. Legal downloadable bootlegs from unreleased Godspeed songs for FREE.  -------------
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 11:13
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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/48600-godspeed-still-on-hiatus-not-completely-broken-up - http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/48600-godspeed-still-on-hiatus-not-completely-broken-up
Seems there is a different version to this; the original article wasn't accurate.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 11:49
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whatever. I don't think they'll ever return to recording/touring as GYBE anyway, thanks for bringing this up, Assaf |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 13:10
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I hope they do. I don't care about cult status, i want to see them live. What an experience.
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 13:22
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I've still never heard them, but at least now when I do check 'em out there is less discography to cover. Cynical, I know, but it's gonna save me money. ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 13:39
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Haha.. too right. Too bad you're gonna regret it when you've heard their albums and they are your favourite band ever! :)
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 18:03
Thanks for the article. As unlikely as a reunion is looking, at least hope is there. One of my favourite bands so I hope I see them live one day. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 22:06
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^I guess that was what sucked most about only getting into them last month, was that my hope of ever seeing them live has been shattered. -------------
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 22:26
*they're better*
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 08:44
Yeah, same here, it was only last fall when I really got into them. I'll always hope they get back together, because what I've heard of them live is incredible. |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 09:11
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lolwut
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/48600-godspeed-still-on-hiatus-not-completely-broken-up - http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/48600-godspeed-still-on-hiatus-not-completely-broken-up
it seems they're back to "hiatus" status rather than broken up
Photo: Eva Vermandel http://www.cstrecords.com/bands_godspeedyou.html - Godspeed You! Black Emperor -- now there's a great band we haven't heard from in awhile. The Canadian collective has been on "indefinite hiatus" for the past five-or-so years. Members of the band have kept busy with http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/48003-sonic-youth-tortoise-godspeed-folk-on-chatham-set - various http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/44937-godspeed-silver-mt-zion-crew-on-vic-chesnutt-lp - musical http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/47948-carla-bozulichs-evangelista-says-ihelloi - projects since then, the most high-profile being http://www.cstrecords.com/bands_silvermtzion.html - Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & Tra-La-La-Band , which features Godspeed members Efrim Menuck, Thierry Amar, and Sophie Trudeau. Over the weekend, GY!BE popped back up on our radar, thanks to a http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/2909075 - Drowned in Sound interview with Menuck. The interview was in support of the excellent new Silver Mt. Zion album, http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/47547-silver-mt-zion-overcome-triskaidekaphobia-on-i13-bluesi - 13 Blues for Thirteen Moons , which comes out March 25 on http://www.cstrecords.com/ - Constellation . (The band will tour this spring; see below for dates.) In the interview, Menuck commented on the political and personal factors that lead to Godspeed You! Black Emperor's hiatus, including frustrations brought on by the war in Iraq. Drowned in Sound titled their story "Godspeed You! Black Emperor: Iraq war made it impossible to continue". Word spread quickly across the internet that the band had finally, officially, called it quits, and the Iraq war was the reason. But the truth isn't that cut-and-dry. Here's what Drowned in Sound quotes Menuck as saying (brackets theirs): "The last American tour that Godspeed did was in the run up to the current war in Iraq. For what Godspeed did, it was very difficult for us to work out a way for us to communicate directly with the audience about what was going on. We would talk to people after the shows, or we could make announcements from the stage but so much what Godspeed was, was one-way communication. And I had an existential freak-out about that. That those tactics aren't valid anymore. People didn't need a rock band pointing in the direction of [how the world was at that point]. Maybe what they needed is some clumsy words, a presentation that was a little more human." "On a personal level I now find [Godspeed You! Black Emperor] to be inappropriate [to do]. There's a complicated back story. I reached a point whereby I was no longer willing to contribute to the steering of the ship; it was like, 'Okay now, someone else point the direction, I love all of you, but I need to ride shotgun for a while'. I think that bands do have a short shelf life... they should be able to ply their trade 'til they no longer want to." It's true-- it can be very difficult to stay in any band for any length of time, let alone one deeply committed to its political beliefs that was http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/32609-godspeed-you-black-emperor-questioned-as-suspected-terrorists-continue-world-tour - once suspected by police of being terrorists . But Menuck never actually came out and said that Godspeed You! Black Emperor are completely over. "The Drowned in Sound thing is a misquote, I'm in the middle of dealing with it now. It's true, Godspeed hasn't existed for years, we've been on permanent hiatus since 2002. If and when we do call it quits permanently, it won't be because of the Iraq war." ------------- |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 10:21
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" http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/48600-godspeed-still-on-hiatus-not-completely-broken-up - http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/48600-godspeed-still-on-hiatus-not-completely-broken-up
It seems they're back to "hiatus" status rather than broken up."
... Which doesn't help much, actually. As Efrim said himself in DiS, and wasn't misquoted on this, a band can't survive a hyatus for too long. I hope that GY!BE will go on, but if there's going to ba a next studio album by them, it will be more like a reunion than a continuetion of their discography.
Kind regards.
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 10:45
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How nice he seemed to treat the misquote this time. His "open-letter response" to the OOR-magazine interview in 2001 is essential reading for all Godspeed fans. "you struck me as a lost, weak, lonely man and i felt a fair amount of misguided empathy towards you... i now regret feeling anything at all, and i wish you nothing but continued misery, loneliness and despair..." [urlhttp://brainwashed.com/godspeed/text.html][/url] Great stuff. ------------- 'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..' |
Posted By: Antennas
Date Posted: February 17 2008 at 19:59
Yes, few - in terms of truly progressive. There are many bands getting that title but only few deserve it in the true meaning of the word.  ------------- Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either |