Electro-Acoustic Music
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Topic: Electro-Acoustic Music
Posted By: avestin
Subject: Electro-Acoustic Music
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:25
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With the guidance of a good friend at the Progressive Ears website (Michael), I've started exploring this marvelous world (maybe universe is more like it) of sounds. I'm still new to this but would like to share my enthusiasm with my initial listening experiences and to ask for your recommendations as well.
Here's a definition I found for this type of music (which is as diverse as any other style)
http://www.synthtopia.com/Articles/ElectronicMusicStylesElec.html - http://www.synthtopia.com/Articles/ElectronicMusicStylesElec.html
Electro-Acoustic MusicElectro-acoustic music is a term used to describe a broad range of modern classical electronic music. It often explores the interaction of natural and electronically generated sounds and effects. The term electro-acoustic refers to a process that happens in any microphone or loudspeaker - sound is transformed into electrical signals, and then transformed from electrical form back to sound. This process is central to all electronic music, because it turns sound into something that can be shaped using electronics and computers. As a musical genre, electro-acoustic is sort of a catch-all term. As electronica is used to refer to any pop electronic music, electro-acoustic is often used to refer to any electronic music in the classical tradition. Electro-acoustic grew out of the pioneering work of experimental electronic musicians of the 1940's and 1950's, such as Pierre Schaeffer. Shaeffer created Musique Concrète, a style of music that anticipated the later rise of sampling. Schaeffer was interested in the idea of manipulating sound as a tangible object. He took tape recorded sounds and created a huge variety of effects through splicing, speed changes, looping and reversing them. It also incorporates the tradition of the early synthesists, such as Edgar Varèse. Initially, electronically generated sounds were used as source materials for further tape manipulation. In the mid 1960's, the emergence of modular synthesizers and computer-based sound manipulation allowed further control over the shaping of sound. Artists like http://www.synthtopia.com/artists/MortonSubotnick.html - Morton Subotnick explored using gestures to control sound, and combined electronics and synthesizers with acoustic instruments and even dance. The term electro-acoustic has been adopted by many artists and organizations working in the world of classical electronic music. While the technology of electronic music is constantly changing, electro-acoustic artists continue to draw on the history of ideas pioneered by early electronic musicians. I'll continue in the next post.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:25
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Here's what my friend Michael suggested I start with:
A really excellent way to aquaint oneself to the acousmatic world is to get a hold of the wonderful INA Grm 5 cd box set called "Archives GRM" This is where I got mine:
http://electrocd.com/en/boutique/inagrm/ - http://electrocd.com/en At 55 dollars Canadian it's unbelieavably cheap and, as I said, it's a great intro to this music. All the heavies are represented, Pierre Schaffer, a short but excellent Xenakis piece, Bernard Parmegiani (one of my faves), Frances Dhomont, Francois Bayle, Luc Ferrari, Jean Claude Risset and tons more who I've never heard of...but all of generally extremely high quality. There is even a long piece my Messiaen dabbling in the electro-acoustic. Here is a long-ish review I posted on another list a while back about the standouts for me from this great box...: Loved just about all of it with many pieces being just downright stupendous. Ones that come to mind: Disc one-Iannis Xenakis-Concret PH A short (under 3 min) crystal tapestry of (apparently) fire and ashes crackling...mesmorizing Disc two-well...most of it was just stunning. What can I say. A couple that stand out are Beatriz Ferreyra "Mer d'Azov and the two pieces by Alain Savouret. I'm wondering if anyone here knows more about these two composers, because their representations on this set makes me want to go out and acquire everything they have ever done (I'm weird like that) Disc three-Again...all of it was fantastic. Standouts were the Francis Dhomont piece called "Novars" (no surprise there...most everything I've heard from Dhomont is top notch) and the Jean-Claude Risset contribution called "Sud". The latter being a particulary mind blowing demonstration of what I would imagine good industrial music to be. (I know next to nothing about industrial music) Disc four-once again...superb!! This collection had more "natural" recognizable instruments added to the acousmatic sounds...so the feel of this disc was totally different than the three before it. Much more organic sounding rather than the alien operating room antics that were happening before. Not to say that those still werent there, they were, but with the addition of some stringed insturments (violin, contrebasse) I was brought down to earth for a short while. Standouts were the Denis Dufour piece and the Ramon Gonzales-Arroyo piece. Disc five-back to the deep reaches of space. The two Jean Schwarz pieces are great along with a rather humourous Francois Bayle/Robert Wyatt collaboration. There is also one by Bernard Parmegiani called "La roue Ferris" that could be my favorite 10 minutes of the whole box. If you're a Tangerine Dream fan...this one is for you! Constantly morphing layers upon layers of sequenced bliss that I just did not want to end. (Speaking of Parmegiani...anyone familiar with his "La Creation du Monde" disc? This is one of my favorite acousmatic discs so far. It was done between 1982-84 but sounds like it came from the year 2207. It projects a movie for the ears about the creation of the universe...and you ARE there...no kidding) ...also there is a 100 page booklet of black and white photographs of all the composers in their various workshops at the GRM as well as in performance. Being a photog myself, I especially enjoyed these. So, babbling aside (to late you might think ) this box, for me might be the purchase of the year and will go a long way in aiding me for future explorations. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:26
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:26
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And this:
Assaf...a couple more recs...
Bernard Parmegiani-Le Creation Du Monde Francois Bayle-Camera Oscura/Espaces Inhabitables The Bayle disc is similar to the Dhomont disc I told you about...although here, the sounds are more rareified, more delicate...but no less mind blowing. The Parmegiani disc is just brilliant from start to finish...definitely a minor masterpiece in my small but growing collection of acousmatic discs. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:27
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I've also started with Iancu Dumitrescu's spectral compositions but I'll keep that for later as it's somewhat of a world within a world here.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:41
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Battiato was used this style if you will, quite often in his 70's albums GREAT topic Assaf  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 13:20
 Absolutely fascinating Assaf. 
That box set does sound like a bargain, I think I'll take advantage of the exchange-rate and purchase that.
 (assuming it's still available , apparently the 5-CD box is out of print but re-issued as 5 single cds)Here are a couple of short Bernard Parmegiani pieces found on the ubiquitous YouTube:
Suspended Time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dysiEpTu1OA - Une Mission Ephemere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aulXlb8Dt24 - <-- as great as the animation is on this video, it is far too distracting for the music, I minimised the window and just listened.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 13:32
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I got the Dhomont album Michael recommended me and it's absolutely fascinating and marvelous experience!!!
I also got the Ferrari album, Son Meorise and I'll have a listen to it today.
I hope to get that box-set anthology as well (though I'm in a bit of "uneasy" financial state so it'll have to wait...).
Thanks for those links, Dean!
I'll try and post here more info as I receive it about more composers.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 13:43
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Well, I've ordered the box-set, so it is still available. ------------- What? |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 20:31
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Here's some info about Romanian composer Iancu Dumitrescu and the Spectral school:
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/utah/549/dumitrescu.iancu.html - http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/utah/549/dumitrescu.iancu.html
http://www.furious.com/perfect/iancu.html - http://www.furious.com/perfect/iancu.html
http://home.grandecom.net/~jronsen/dumitrescu.html - http://home.grandecom.net/~jronsen/dumitrescu.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/hyperionedmn/ - http://members.fortunecity.com/hyperionedmn/
* "The new Romanian school, with Iancu Dumitrescu at the forefront, is not alone in its search for a similar spectral approach - hyper-consonant, hyperharmonic, in the real sense of these terms - as we find parallel tendencies in the young French school of the Groupe de l'Itinéraire, amongst the young Canadians or the Italians. The Romanians, working for so long in relative isolation, are in right to claim a certain seniority in this approach that lead with Iancu Dumitrescu's to a real spectral analysis of the interior of the sound, equivalent to a kind of nuclear fission. The great predecessor in this direction, whose importance is just beginning to be recognized as he celebrates his eightieth birthday, is the Italian composer Giacinto Scelsi... In such a "spectral" and "hyperconsonant" music as that of Iancu Dumitrescu, we seem to recognize ceaselessly fragments, echoes of folkloric melodies, songs and ancestral calls of the Carpathian shepherds. And that because the folk instruments also elude the compromise of the temperate scale in order to render the natural scale of the harmonics. The spectre thus contains thousands of virtual melodies that fleeting embody themselves according to the meeting or the crossing of the harmonic columns. Folk music is thus a sonorous phenomenon both natural and cultural. Starting with the brilliant forerunner George Enescu, the whole Romanian school has used its pure resources, fructifying and transfiguring them. This was the case with Iancu Dumitrescu's masters: St. Niculescu and A. Stroe, while A. Mendelson inculcated him the basic classical craft and S. Celibidache's precious advices helped him to clarify his phenomenological conception of musical composition. Iancu Dumitrescu's works situate themselves far from the traditional concepts, not only regarding sound, but also form and structure. His main works introduce the concept of acousmatic, Socratic term designing the art of hiding the essence of the sound source, of disguising its origin. Based on the intimate exploration of the secret, hidden, parameters of the sonorous phenomenon, his music extracts its formal models out of the inner structure of the sound, in a perfect correspondence of micro- and macrostructure. This phenomenological approach of the compositional proceeding implies both a great confidence in the intuitive dimension of the invention and a permanent, indispensable, intellectual lucidity. Composing becomes thus a surgeon or biologist-like attitude, working directly on the sonorous plasma, on the living and mobile substance. This attitude extends to the several parameters of the sound, especially to a system of duration organization that confers each number a rhythm that bears its own aesthetics, ethics and poignancy. As Time, the only sonorous parameter also existing outside the sound, is equally the one who implies all the rest: pitches, timbres and intensities are evaluated by means of vibrations, periods, and, thus, time. Iancu Dumitrescu's predilection for grave instruments (double bass, bassoon, trombone, tuba etc.) is explained by the fact that they possess the most complete column of harmonics, the richest and most beautiful spectrum. The acoustical principles evoked above otherwise permit rendering almost unrecognizable the instrumental sources. Thus, in "Ursa Mare", the two bassoons are prepared, by introducing foreign objects in the wholes and clefts. Additionally, the instrumentalists must play with the upper part of the instrument stuck to the membrane of the big drum, which prolongs and modifies the harmonics. The bassoon has thus at its disposal an original scale of micro-intervals. Some of Iancu Dumitrescu's important works exist in several variants which differ by their instrumentation. Finished in 1983, this recorded version of "Ursa Mare", the most complete regarding the instrumental force, uses two prepared bassoons, four double basses, one piano (also prepared), an ensemble of percussion (membranes and metals) and, finally, a magnetic tape. The work is dedicated to Harry Halbreich. From the beginning of his career, Iancu Dumitrescu made himself known through orchestral pages of amazing novelty, where most of his nowadays achievements were more than prefigured. "Apogeum" (for winds and percussion), "Reliefs" (for two orchestras and piano) count among the major pages of the new Romanian orchestral music. Invigorated by the experiences acquired in the long years of practicing with his musicians in the Hyperion Ensemble and with the great Italian double bass player Fernando Grillo, Iancu Dumitrescu composed "Aulodie Mioritica", first for clarinet and orchestra, and then for other soloists. The double bass solo and orchestra version ("Aulodie Mioritica" Gamma), dedicated to and created by Fernando Grillo, was finished in June 1984 and performed for the first time soon after its ending, at Radio France, by the latter, accompanied by the Nouvel Orchestre Philharmonique conducted by Yves Prin." Harry HALBREICH (Editions Salabert) Paris ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 10 2008 at 18:49
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I found this interesting link - http://people.unt.edu/~aeh0018/womtechdisc.html - http://people.unt.edu/~aeh0018/womtechdisc.html
which talks about Selected discography of currently available electroacoustic music by women composers.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 10 2008 at 18:53
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Also, haven't had time to read all of it, but this article seems to be an interesting retrospective of EAM:
http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/MusicPapers/ElectroAcousticMusic.html - http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/MusicPapers/ElectroAcousticMusic.html
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 10 2008 at 18:55
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And these are the albums listed under EAM in CD Baby:
http://cdbaby.com/style/255 - http://cdbaby.com/style/255
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Posted By: soundsweird
Date Posted: March 11 2008 at 00:58
| I have tons of Electroacoustic/Acousmatic titles (no surprise; I've been composing the stuff for over 25 years, hence my nickname here); it's hard to go wrong with stuff on the Electrocd site; those Canadian composers have "cornered the market"; Dhomont, Normandeau, Gobeil, Harrison, Oswald, Roy, etc. |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: March 11 2008 at 02:38
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Assaf, from those you have mentioned my favourites would be: Bernard Parmegiani - All of his '70's release are solid, you cannot really go wrong. Also if you enjoyed that latter work of his it could be worth while tracking down the split he did with Australia EA artist Philip Samartzis from '06 called Immersion; this possibly could only have been released on vinyl tho' - not sure. Francois Bayle - L'expérience acoustique - Vibrations composées / Grande polyphonie - Erosphère Just a warning I didn't think much of the split album between Bayle and Parmegiani. Luc Ferrari - Presque rien - Danses organiques - Son mémorisé (already mentioned) |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 11 2008 at 09:33
Hi there, SW.
I'd be interested in listening to your music; any links, websites?
Added to my list, thank Adam.
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soundsweird wrote:Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 11 2008 at 22:53
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Bump
Found this on Myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/nickstorring - http://www.myspace.com/nickstorring
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 00:32
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Bump
PFS article on INA GRM:
http://www.furious.com/Perfect/ohm/inagrm.html - http://www.furious.com/Perfect/ohm/inagrm.html
The label's discography in Forced exposure:
http://www.forcedexposure.com/labels/ina.grm.france.html - http://www.forcedexposure.com/labels/ina.grm.france.html
Last FM page of the label with samples:
http://www.last.fm/tag/ina-grm - http://www.last.fm/tag/ina-grm
Discography at Jazz Loft:
http://www.jazzloft.com/d-4618-Ina-Grm.aspx - http://www.jazzloft.com/d-4618-Ina-Grm.aspx ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: soundsweird
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 22:48
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Avestin, here's a link to some excerpts of pieces I did in the 90's. It's a site dedicated to the analog synth I used to get all of my strange sounds, and the guy asked me to give him some samples to put up there. Most of it is a bit more commercial than my "serious" stuff, and has been used in modern dances. The same guy is working with me currently to remaster and clean up my music for CD release... Just click on "music", and scroll down to 6 excerpts towards the bottom of the page.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 07:44
^ Link appear to be missing Soundswierd. 
I'm stunned.
 ... the GRM Archives 5 CD box set arrived on my doorstep a few minutes ago! I was expecting a 2 or 3 week wait for a delivery from Canada and it arrived from Paris in 5 days - I'm not even getting that kind of delivery from AmazonUK at the moment - hat's off to the guys at ElectroCD Haven't had chance to listen yet (perparing a mini-marathon for this afternoon ) but looking through the photo-booklet brings back memories of researching some of this for an essay on electronic music I did at University in the 80s.------------- What? |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 15:52
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Let us know what are your impressions of the boxset, Dean.
As soon as I have some more funds, I'll be getting it as well.
@ Soundsweird, like Dean said, there's no link in your post. Looking forward to listen to it.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 15:12
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 02:04
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Oh, this reminds me. Have you given that Martin Siewert/Martin Brandlmayr - Too Beautiful to Burn disc a spin? This is a more modern (terrible choice of words here) electro-acoustic music, which is improvised. I wish I had more to say in this thread, but for some reason I cannot collate all my thoughts together into a more concise line of thought. I like many of the bands/musician mentioned so far, but I have never really been blown away by many of these pioneer musician within this field; the ones I have mentioned in previous posts. Regarding this type of music my taste steer towards what is coined these days as EAI which is quite simply Electro-acoustic improvisation, which is think could be a little removed from the style of music we are discussing within this thread. |
Posted By: soundsweird
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 22:30
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Oops! Let's try it again; here's the link to my music: http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/ - http://www.wavemakers-synth.com/
Sorry, don't know what happened last time. Once again, click on "music", and scroll down to six excerpts of my music from the 90's.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 14 2008 at 08:19
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Some links to Myspaces of several musicians/composers/artists in the EA domain (though not exclusively)
Dganit Elyakim - http://www.myspace.com/dganitelyakim - http://www.myspace.com/dganitelyakim
Sara Lenzi - http://www.myspace.com/saralenzi - http://www.myspace.com/saralenzi
Ana Troisi - http://www.myspace.com/annatroisi - http://www.myspace.com/annatroisi
Olivia Block - http://www.oliviablock.net/ - http://www.oliviablock.net/
http://www.myspace.com/oliviablock - http://www.myspace.com/oliviablock
Arno Steinacher/Neubau - http://www.myspace.com/rymdmyr - http://www.myspace.com/rymdmyr
http://www.arnosteinacher.com/about.htm - http://www.arnosteinacher.com/about.htm
Linda Humbert - http://www.myspace.com/lindahimbert - http://www.myspace.com/lindahimbert
Also, check out their Myspace friends as most are also EA/Experimental musicians/composers worth looking into
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: July 14 2008 at 12:31
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Hey guys! Check this website: http://www.avantgardeproject.org - http://www.avantgardeproject.org . A very good resource! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 14 2008 at 18:44
Yep, it's a great and useful resource; I use it sometimes when there's a particular composer I'm interested in listening to.
Bump for the links I posted above of those young composers.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 00:14
Can I assume you enjoyed what you heard? Her first three album make up some sort of trilogy, so any of those three discs are a good start. It would probably be easiest to get all her discs in chronlogical order - considering there are only four of them. The has been a recent DVD release from a collaboration between her (music), luis recoder + sandra gibson (visuals) on SoSeditions. Unfortunately there isn't much info, the label has been on the low for quite some time: http://www.soseditions.com/news.html - http://www.soseditions.com/news.html . |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 01:18
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I really don't listen to electro-acoustic... but resently my friend introduced me to Alvin Lucier via "I am sitting in a room": an experimental recording of a monolouge being amplified into a room, records that, plays that back into a room etc. untill eventually you get wierd melodies caused by the resonation of the room ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 07:44
Yes, very much so, thanks for the recommendation!
I'll start with that trilogy, one by one. Thanks again.
On a different note, I've gotten the INA GRM 5 cd boxset a while ago and it's a very interesting and compelling listen and read (in the booklets) about the background and development of EA music with its varieties.
I also have gotten from Parmegianni and Dhomont recordings which I need to listen to more, but they are stunning as well.
Parmegianni has a boxset of his own of all his recordings on 12 cd's which looks tempting and my friend Michael over at Progressive Ears has highly recommended me this release. When I've got more available funds maybe.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 07:57
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I got this 3CD+DVD set a while back, and it's excellent; http://www.amazon.com/Ohm-Early-Gurus-Electronic-Special/dp/B000BDGVX6 - http://www.amazon.com/Ohm-Early-Gurus-Electronic-Special/dp/B000BDGVX6
As a huge Delia fan, I also HAVE to recommend this to all; http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=89395 - http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=89395
A taster on Youtube; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9AkSI_UbIE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9AkSI_UbIE
(I also checked out the link to Alice Shields - she's pretty amazing too). ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 16:23
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Thanks for those recommendations Cert
This one particularly interests me:
I'll check this out, thanks
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 20 2008 at 19:14
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Wrote a review which should be posted soon in http://www.sonicfrontiers.net/php/ - http://www.sonicfrontiers.net/php/ for Arno Steinacher's, working under the name Neubau, album called Rymdmyr released on no-nine records.
Also, am now listening to three albums by Bernard Parmegiani:
L'oeil Ecoute
Chronons
La Creation Du Monde.
This is brilliant!
I'll probably end up buying the that boxset of his, containing his 12 releases
http://www.parmegiani.fr/ - http://www.parmegiani.fr/
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 08:36
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With regards to Delia Derbyshire that Mark mentioned above, here are a few links and also a recent interesting piece of news about unknown recordings of hers recently found:
Official website:
http://www.delia-derbyshire.org/ - http://www.delia-derbyshire.org/
Movie of her work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk
News about the lost recordings:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm (with samples!)
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/07/18/the-lost-recordings-of-delia-derbyshire/ - http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/07/18/the-lost-recordings-of-delia-derbyshire/
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 14:32
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I wrote this review about the new release of Arno Steinacher working under the name Neubau and posted an edited version of it at Sonic Frontiers net:
http://www.sonicfrontiers.net/php/review_236 - http://www.sonicfrontiers.net/php/review_236
Here's the full version of that review
Neubau – Rymdmyr A puzzle of sounds I have started my journey through the electro-acoustic and acousmatic realms several months ago with the help and guidance of a friend and through his advices I’ve come to appreciate the intricacies and textures formed with recorded sounds and making them into perceived music. Starting from the originators such as Pierre Schaeffer and Pierre Boulez and up to current composers I’ve come to experience some of what this world serves its listeners. Arno Steinacher is a young Austrian composer and musician that started his musical route at the age of 12 and has since veered into the world of electronic music; this release is under the working name Neubau. To first give you the idea behind this sort of music, here’s a quote from “music does not need listeners, it needs participants”. Relying on both manipulation of recoded sounds (organic sounds) and the creating his own sounds (electronically), Neubau travels in a unique musical world where he serves the listener an amalgam of sounds (or noise made into sounds); whether those are voices, sounds recorded from nature, street or any other non-artificial setting, those are all incorporated into the grand scheme to make this otherworldly atmosphere, sounding as if detached from a human touch; but one must remember throughout the album that this is man-made. Along with the recorded sounds, come the effects and electronic tones that Neubau adds that seem to take whatever organic sound that is away from its roots and into a different dimension. A place where the sound takes on a new meaning, where one finds a new way of listening to them. When listening to this type of music I am always amazed how to manage to make an intentional collage of sounds such as this, and morph it into something that is not only listenable but, to me at least can be one or more of the following: pleasant, perplexing, meditative, hypnotic, disturbing, annoying, captivating, appealing, transcendental. That is the beauty and attraction of this music for me; it’s ability to pose a challenge to the brain: Can you perceive those sounds differently; are you able to follow the composer’s vision and either “see” through his “musical eyes” or even create your own private imagery when listening to his creation. In this aspect, I think In other tracks, such as the opening track, “isregn“ and track 7, which is the title track he does a compelling job of combining both worlds of organic and artificial sounds, achieving a wonderful aural effect which is even melodic at a point or two (not a common trait at all in this style). Perhaps not innovative or rebellious in his approach (I recognize some effects and style from other EA recordings I have by older composers which are probably his influences), but I am not in place to judge this sort of thing being new to this musical medium; I think he does a very good job of creating those musical visions of his and making them sound special and appealing to the listener/participant. For more info about Arno Steinacher and to listen to his music, visit his website and Myspace. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 19:46
Please do informs us if this purchase eventuates, a friend bought it recent and has really been digging it. Also, I though you could be interested: http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/07/chicagoland-fre.html - http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/07/chicagoland-fre.html scroll a little way down the page and you will find a free legal mp3 of Olivia Block performing in Toronto this year. Total time's just shy of 30mins. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 19:47
Will do!
Great, thanks a lot and thank for keeping the thread alive!
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 09:13
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Just saw in AMN a link to this article about electronic and EA music history and recommended albums:
http://arcanecandy.com/2008/08/02/the-electronic-poems/ - http://arcanecandy.com/2008/08/02/the-electronic-poems/
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 21:21
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Have a look at Nonine records; I recently reviewed one of their releases by Neubau (Arno Steinacher) on Sonic Frontiers. They have talented musicians on their label.
Have a listen here and check their friends, which are the artists on their label:
http://www.myspace.com/soundnonine - http://www.myspace.com/soundnonine
http://www.nonine.com/ - http://www.nonine.com/
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 14:36
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A friend over at Progressive Ears has led me to this wonderful American musician/composer called Thomas Dimuzio and his stunning head filling music. Listen here: http://www.myspace.com/thomasdimuzio - http://www.myspace.com/thomasdimuzio And more info here: http://www.gench.com/genchmusic.html - http://www.gench.com/genchmusic.html http://www.thomasdimuzio.com/ - http://www.thomasdimuzio.com/ Fabulous experience! ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 07:44
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Assaf, I'll check some of your recommendations out soon. Unfortunately this will probably not be as soon as I would hope, considering the AU dollar is up sh*t creek and my server has blocked all d/l'ing. Some good discs (IMO) brought out this year. Two close to home (NZ artists): Douglas Liburn - Complete Electro-Acoustic Works (3 disc set + a dvd) & there was a new Omit recording out this year also called Interceptor. Not as good as my personal fav. Tracer, but still up there on my albums released this year. This next one is probably a little closer to music concrete, but still worth a mention. Lionel Marchetti - Adèle et Hadrien (Le livre des vacances) Have you heard any of those 'Obscure Tape Music of Japan' volumes released on Omega Point this year? heard some pretty varied opinions. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 14:33
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I'll check these, thanks Adam. I've heard of Omit but have yet to listen to his music, I just ordered his Tracer album. Don't know anything about the "Obscure Tape Music of Japan", sorry. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 17:21
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this link covers a lot of the Vol. of the Obscure Tape Music: http://www.fusetronsound.com/index.php?whomlab=OmegaPoint - http://www.fusetronsound.com/index.php?whomlab=OmegaPoint & rateyourmusic has then lined up neatly http://rateyourmusic.com/label/omega_point_records_f1/ - http://rateyourmusic.com/label/omega_point_records_f1/ I'm pretty sure Joji Yuasa featured on that OHM: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music: 1948-1980, so I thought there could be some important historical documents amongst these releases. Pretty pricey tho' to make a gamble. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:53
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Here's a newsletter from Electro CD who distributes electro-acoustic titles: New release - empreintes DIGITALes: * Theodore Lotis (Greece): Époque de l’eau [CD] http://www.electrocd.com/en/cat/imed_0894/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ Get a free copy of the disc Ecolapsis — Music for Dance by Theodore Lotis by purchasing Époque de l’eau. For a limited period of time the item will automatically be added to your shopping cart! ------ New release - C3R: * Gordon Monahan (Ontario): Saskatchewan Sound Installations [2 CD] http://www.electrocd.com/en/cat/c3r_015/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ He conjures up the prairies of Saskatchewan with an impressive series of varied tracks utilising his fascinating installations. ------ New release - Ina-GRM: * Bernard Parmegiani (France): L’oeuvre musicale en 12 CD http://www.electrocd.com/en/cat/ina_g_6000/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ 12-CD Boxset! Bilingual booklet (English, French) with photos, 92 pages. ------ New release - Oral: * Allseits, Aun (Québec): Irrlicht [CD] http://www.electrocd.com/en/cat/oral_25/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ ------ New release - &records: * A_dontigny, Michel F Côté (Québec): La notte fa [CD] http://www.electrocd.com/en/cat/et_05/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ ------ New releases - Revue & corrigée (France): * It is now possible to get the Revue & corrigée quarterly from Grenoble (France) from http://electro.com/ - electro.com . More than 40 titles available! http://www.electrocd.com/en/boutique/retc/par_annee/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ -------------------- All our new releases: http://www.electrocd.com/en/boutique/nouv/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ Our recent releases: http://www.electrocd.com/en/boutique/recent/ - http://www.electrocd.com/en/ ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:57
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^ really great sound creators...but nothing new for me, I'm familiar with this scene and in particular with the GRM pioneering researches since years.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: November 01 2008 at 11:00
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Yeah, nothing new, but great to discover for those who don't. I still need to get that Parmegiani boxset, I only have some of his output which is outstanding. Philippe, have a look at the other mentions on this thread, some are from newer artists (Olivia Block, Thomas Dimuzio and others). ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: December 28 2008 at 21:25
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Been having lots of fun with the Dimuzio albums I've ordered and also finally ordered and received the Parmegiani boxset which is AWESOME! 12 cd's with his best work and a large booklet in English and French discussing his work and also notes on the particular pieces found on the 12 cd's. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: December 29 2008 at 03:20
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I'm really into 60' 70' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_music - Library Music , and that's why I've stumbled over http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/egisto_macchi - Egisto Macchi . The three albums I got Voix, Bioritmi and Futurissimo are
all rare collectors items. Nothing I found written about him will
prepare you for his unique sounduniverse, but this review on Futurissimo written by http://rateyourmusic.com/%7Eladouce - ladouce clipped from Rate Your Music comes pretty close: ...Sustained strings, accidental orchestral bursts and chimes-like electronics... This is SO incredibly beautiful! Somewhere between Luc Ferrari's "Interrupteur", François Bayle's "Les couleurs de la nuit" and Eric Demarsan's "L'armée des ombres". It can also remind abstract pieces of Morricone, with a similar use of electric guitar taken out of its context, like pop culture artefacts A brilliant oeuvre, really. To be listened when it's dark out.... I know they're not normally associated with this scene, but actually a lot of Library albums made by quite famous film composers like Piero Umiliani, Ennio Morricone (often using psuedonyms) etc are experimental, electroaqoustic compositions. Morricone's Controfase is a fantastic album filled with atonal and electronic sounds. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 11:38
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Cool thanks for recommendation, I'll check this out.
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Posted By: ebag7125
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 14:58
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http://avantgardeproject.conus.info/AGP13/ - http://avantgardeproject.conus.info/AGP13/
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 11:45
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Kevin Parks, Joe Foster - Ipsi sibi somnia fingunt Highly recommended. The site in my sig reviews a lot of electro-acoustic music CDs. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 03 2009 at 08:56
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Not been listening to EAM lately, but has anyone had any new music discovered that you're excited about? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 06 2009 at 11:11
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i was curious about this electro acustic thing, sounded interesting, but not anymore. I tried to listen some of recomendations here , but i found that i don't like this music at all, if it could be called music at all, to me it is sum of various sounds which don't make a whole, no flow , no melody, disconnected loops, drones, noise, . I heard Francois bayle - Camera Oscura (even i found some table tennis sounds here) , Espaces Inhabitables; Francis Dhomont - Cycle de l'errance - Mouvances - Mйtaphores 1; Bernard Parmegiani - La Creation du Monde ; and i 'am very disapointed from this music. In the past i've tried to listen similar music to this one you called electro acustic, it was labeled as noise/drone/dark ambient/avantguarde or something like that but no success then, and now i bumped into this similar music of yours, and i still don't understand that noise,looping, drones, weird sounds, eerie atmosphere, creepy . then i heard artists like : Aesthetic Meat Front, Atomine Elektrine, Dagda Mor, Desiderii Marginis, Nobody and leutha, In Slaughter Natives, Moljebka pvlse sorry mocking your music but it sounds like that to me.
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Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: March 06 2009 at 11:34
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^^ "Man, you just don't get it,do you? how can you say such a nonsense. can you support this statement with some proof. Let me tell you the answer , you cannot once one infects with E-A desease ,it is inevitable process, cannot be reversed.it grows more and more(if one realy loves E-A, not those like YOU) so want to explore more deeper into genre. this is the ultimate Quest. Starts digging in E-A contininuum , and suddenly see there is no coming back , he has reached the pick of E-A genre. and he is happy with it. please reconsider that , you are very wrong. it is called GREAT MUSIC(WHICH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. It is art , and devine one. when you have no proof to back up your statement, it cannot be considered as rightious.It is all a matter of opinion which in this Angelmk case is false Sorry, couldn't resist. Your words, not mine. Only the genre has been changed.
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 06 2009 at 12:57
hello trademark, Long time no hear from you,i missed your posts
 , yes it is different genre, indeed. Too diferent to discuss.i am not familiar to this genre at all ,so i cannot discuss. So i didn't see your name here in this Electro acoustic thread ,so what will you add to this disscussion?What would you suggest from this genre? we cannot argue here for something not related to this topic,metal was a diferent thing. and this guys who love this music can ban us , sent straight to hell because ruining their thread, i am newbie in this music and expected to hear something from Avestin he seems to be familiar with this kind of music. And what i said above in my post was my opinion, and only mine, so you cannot say i'am wrong , that is what i feel for those albums i've heard so far, which doesn't have to be my last opinion cos maybe other artists from this genre i could like! |
Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: March 06 2009 at 13:03
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I like quite a bit of E-A music, but I also have something of an aversion to the really experimental end of the spectrum. Here's something for you to check out. (go to T-Rex in case it doesn't come up at the top of the \list. Its a bit more musical, but still squarely E-A. All the sounds in this piece are made either by the live trombone player or from sampled recordings of trombones being played, hit, and otherwise abused in some way. It shows off both the electronics and the instrument in a fun, mostly musical way. http://www.myspace.com/coolvillemusic - http://www.myspace.com/coolvillemusic
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 06 2009 at 13:32
i heard coolville music, and i like it, it is very different from those artists i've heard labeled as EA , coolville has many classical moments which i enjoy, and unlike those loops ,and noise heard before, coolville music is nice flowing , i especially enjoyed ''saturday night porch music '' , ''elegy ''is very calm and peacefull nice listen, T-rex has some interesting experimental trombone playing ,not bad.
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Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: March 06 2009 at 14:35
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Here's another piece you might like. This is about as far in the experimental direction as I can go. This is by a composer named Neil Rolnick and is for an instrument called the iFiddle (which is really just a basic violin with a pickup and a WHOLE LOT of electronic processing as as as I can understand. It has some minimalist tendencies, but is once again very much in the Electro-Acoustic camp. I have a recording two pieces by Rolnik for Synthsizers and traditional instruments (called Real Time and A La Mode) and it is also pretty good stuff. I had it on an old cassette from the 70's (bad recording). Couldn't find an online recording of it. |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 06 2009 at 15:04
nice sound , classical hints, experimental violin, slight electronic parts, not bad at all.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 16:26
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Found an interesting band called Zreen Toyz: http://www.myspace.com/zreentoyz - www.myspace.com/zreentoyz ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 23:36
Joe Foster and Kevin Parks have released a track this year on the net label homophoni (free streaming/download). In my opinion their strongest duo work yet. http://www.homophoni.com/homo035.html - http://www.homophoni.com/homo035.html |
Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 00:01
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I personally believe this music is something that in future years will be around in most popular bands. Take a band like Matmos for example. They seem to take a lot of ideas from electro acoustic music and blend it with their poppy influences. Check out Alvin Lucier's piece entitled I am Sitting in a Room. What an amazing study in sound this piece is.
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