Protest the Hero
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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Protest the Hero
Posted By: jmprog
Subject: Protest the Hero
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 00:36
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i just have a question.. why isnt protest the hero on the progarchives.com main page?
btw i highly recomend their new album Fortress its much better than the first one Kezia
cheers!
=)
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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 00:50
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wow protest really isn't on the site is it? granted I just did a search but i didn't find it. why the f**k not? and I prefer Kezia a bit more, though i haven't listened to Fortress as much.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 01:03
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PTH have been cleared for inclusion by the Prog Metal Team.Gives us time please,we have a lot of bands on our "Cleared" list.
And this is in the wrong forum section,the Prog Music Lounges are meant for bands in the archives ONLY. -------------  |
Posted By: coleio
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 06:48
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Oh you are joking. PTH aren't prog. If they can be included, then add Job for a Cowboy, Bring me the Horizon, All Shall Perish etc. It seems as long as anything is slightly technical, it can now be included in the archives. Shallow band, mediocre, generic guitar work, pretty much the same drumming in every song, lyrically uninspired. Awful.  ------------- Eat heartily at breakfast, for tonight, we dine in Hell!! |
Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 08:09
Just because you don't like it that dosen't mean it isn't prog. Besides their are many bands here in PA that have all of these things you've mentioned and that dosen't mean they aren't prog. ------------- "I've walked on water, run through fire, can't seem to feel it anymore. It was me, waiting for me..." |
coleio wrote:Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 10:50
Lyrically they are completely inspired. They've put out two concept albums about women being repressed (in that sense they are almost like the first feminist metal band :-p) Its not the same old sh*t about anger!!! and sex!!
They are the heaviest band i've ever heard that still has technicallity.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 11:04
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File under: bands that I have no reason not to like... but for some intangible reason I just don't. It's weird. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 11:11
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I support the PM team's decision and their inclusion
however, prog != good
therefore
expect a review  -------------  |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 12:11
Never could get into them really. I like the guitar work but the singer is terrible  ------------- 
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Posted By: Spydrfish
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 22:30
Well PTH have allot of more artistic leanings for a so called Metalcore band, I guess they might as well be here since the title of Prog is tossed around much more these days. And not that they're similar in any way, but adding PTH could leave us open for other technical metal bands such as A7X and Trivium (Who I do not deem as progressive bands though they have more artistic leanings to their music.) ------------- This Space For Rent |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:48
I for one disagree on your assessment of which album is better, I feel the tracks on Kezia have more variety and compostional adventure, whereas Fortress is (more)straightforward shred stuff. The band rules though, no doubt. ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:49
says the guy with the OPETH avatar, talk about uninspired and over-rated/overhyped CRAP...... ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:57
Just because some people DO like them doesn't make them prog.  |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 01:43
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I actually will defend them being prog metal, despite me not liking a single aspect about them people need to get around the PA mentality that "prog= good" automatically oh wow I said the same thing like 3 posts ago and no one listens whatashock ------------- |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 03:52
Exactly my thoughts, together with 3 and Coheed and Cambria. -------------  |
Posted By: coleio
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 05:52
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Well it seems that I annoyed a few people. I still stand by my original statements. Scale runs don't make songs. The singer is a whiny, annoying pop-rock vocalist. Their lyrics aren't inspired, it's pseudo-intellectual rubbish, and when they've done interviews I've read, they've name dropped poets and philosophers with no clear understanding of what they really did. As for the guy who commented on Opeth. Do me a favour. ------------- Eat heartily at breakfast, for tonight, we dine in Hell!! |
Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 07:32
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Protest the Hero has awesome guitar work, but Christ, the vocalist is unbearable, and the drums sound like blast beats half the time! Still,
after listening to both albums twice, I can see why someone would recommend them for being on here. They have many prog qualities, but then again, there are as many arguments you can make to say that they aren't prog... -------------  Would you like some Bailey's? |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 10:31
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now I'm going to have to listen to this album :( ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 14:19
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They've been added already and indeed the vocalist is kind of annoying. He should relax or take a break or something.
------------- "I've walked on water, run through fire, can't seem to feel it anymore. It was me, waiting for me..." |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:15
which is odd because I like those 2 bands and PTH's vocalist grates at me to no end weird ------------- |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:29
The problem is not that people think prog = good, it's that people think good = prog, and are suggesting completely non-prog bands for PA, on the basis that they're intelligent or good bands. It's rediculous. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:31
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Listening to them now like a good little prog reviewer. (no way am I scrobbling this junk) ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:33
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:34
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it sounds like SikTh covering the world's worst Mars Volta song ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:39
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I actually lol'd at that /\
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Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:40
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There's been quite a fuzz about PTH since they've been added. I liked them at first. Now I just don't have words for them. They annoy my ears incredibly fast.
------------- "I've walked on water, run through fire, can't seem to feel it anymore. It was me, waiting for me..." |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:47
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The music is okay albeit very derivative (especially from Between the Buried and Me), but the vocals slay any chance I have of enjoying it.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 17:58
I just listened to the album and enjoyed it very much. The vocals don't bother me at all ... I guess it's entirely a matter of taste. Also, I don't find it derivative at all, and Between the Buried and Me didn't invent the genre either.
------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 20:21
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I never said that...
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 25 2008 at 21:44
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It's so nice to see how much my(and the PMT's) hard work is appreciated.Some people must like them,Fortress' rating is PERFECT.
To the people questioning their progginess.....do you feel Between the Buried and Me deserved inclusion here?Because both bands are pretty similar stylistically. ------------- |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 02:07
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It took me a while to appreciate the vocals. Give it some time. They are truly a fantastic group. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 03:53
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Well it will be the only group with those kind of vocals I'll try and accept...hehe. I trashed them pretty quickly but did like what the band was doing. I'll trick a punk friend into buying it and get a copy.
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Posted By: coleio
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 11:40
As I mentioned in my first post. Why don't you just stick Job for a Cowboy, Bring me the horizon and yes, Between the buried and me on here too. That should give you a clear idea of what I think anyway. ------------- Eat heartily at breakfast, for tonight, we dine in Hell!! |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 11:50
Between the buried and Me are on here and dislike the vocals if you will but I think you've heard maybe 3 minutes of one of their songs to lump them in with those two ------------- |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 12:29
Agreed
But I'd also point out again that I don't think they naysayers are giving Protest the Hero a fair shot. It takes more than one listen to really understand this group. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:06
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Now, I'm all for freedom of expression and opinion, but this is bullsh*t:
http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=18318 - http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=18318
I mean, absolute bullsh*t:
 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=15763 - DoomsdayClock
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=11941 - caedes
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=17227 - River-peth (Gregory)
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=12288 - Redy60 (Radoslav Glushkov)
 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=4892 - laplace ((I/L)olo Iamnhnia) COLLABORATOR Forum Stimulator Seven votes of 5, and one vote of 1, which is rating only. Now, I think there should either be a review added, or the vote revoked, because at the moment, this obviously seems like a sort of attempt to lower the rating of an album. |
Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:14
He didn't wrote anything at all, unless it's been deleted. In any I also wouldn't give it a five. Maybe a 3. MAYBE. ------------- "I've walked on water, run through fire, can't seem to feel it anymore. It was me, waiting for me..." |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:21
this is true as well PA is backwards land ------------- |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:31
I gave it one star because I really disliked it. review coming soon ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:38
| Did you just call laplace's opinion bullsh*t? |
Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:39
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well okay then, as long as there's a review i'm cool with it, its just that such an extreme review without an explanation is kinda questionable imo..... |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 14:50
Laplace is not afraid of you and will beat your ass 
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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 17:06
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 17:09
| For the record, I'd give the album 2.5-3 stars. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 17:19
 Now that's a reference done right. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 17:22
| I cannot help my impeccable music taste. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 19:14
Yo! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 19:49
Why would you rate it without a review if you are planning on reviewing it in the first place?
It looks like an attempt to lower the rating,and if that makes you mad I am sorry,but I call them as I see them. ------------- |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 19:51
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I'm not mad ;P I simply haven't dug up enough synonymous derogatory adjectives to review the album yet ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 19:54
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If you planned on reviewing it you should have WAITED.I don't care if you slam the album or the band,but giving it a rating without a review looks bad if you clearly stated you planned on reviewing it in the future.
It looks like ratings manipulation,and I am going to discuss this with Bob and Guigo. ------------- |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 19:55
I cringe when they whine. Really. It's a shame coz I really like the music. I personally think they will sound better without those type of singing.  ------------- |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 26 2008 at 19:58
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ye gods remove it if you think it needs to be removed but don't pretend you can diagnose intent ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |