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Topic: making a concept album (or attempting to)
Posted By: dt_1928
Subject: making a concept album (or attempting to)
Date Posted: April 04 2004 at 19:28

recently, my band wrote a song called pandoras box. it was an instrumental, but i wrote lyrics to the song, and i decided to write a concept album using the song as a base, much as metropolis part one was to scenes from a memory. basically, its gonna be based around the story of pandora's box. flor those that dont know, the roman or greek gods send a box down to earth and its full of evil. a girl named pandora opens it and the evil is unleashed into the world. all that is left in the box is hope

this is the list of songs so far

part one: resentment

part two: terrestrail overture (instrumental)

part three: found

part four: questions (aka the original pandora's box)

part five: plan

part six: unleased

part seven: saved

opinions on song names or if i need more or less songs?



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 06:16
What can I say? It's YOUR album.  I don't know what kind of music you make. And I have to admit I don't know that story so well. I have Latin in school and I've had Greek in the past, so I can tell you all about the Trojan war, or Cicero, but I'm not familiar with Pandora's box.


Posted By: will
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 07:51

I can't really give you any suggestions but I know the story of pandora's box and it should be good material for your concept album.

Hope all goes well



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Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 08:43
I'm curious, how do you plan on concluding this song?


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 11:21
Make it an instrumental.


Posted By: arqwave
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 12:59
talk to yourself, actually the best way to get critics over your job is leaving it a few days, and then retake it and hear it with amore conciuos mind. The names some times can be related with your mood and your lyrics, in any case, is your chance to be very creative, so try and investigate part of the non-common language of early middle ages (i mean old english) and experiment with those moods


Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 15:02

Originally posted by Glass-Prison Glass-Prison wrote:

I'm curious, how do you plan on concluding this song?

im not sure what you mean. if you mean concluding the album, it will be the people finding hope.



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Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 15:04

now that i think about it, unleashed will most likely be an instrumental.

 

btw, the verison of questions that we recorded so far is in drop a\m/



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Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 15:07

Originally posted by arqwave arqwave wrote:

talk to yourself, actually the best way to get critics over your job is leaving it a few days, and then retake it and hear it with amore conciuos mind. The names some times can be related with your mood and your lyrics, in any case, is your chance to be very creative, so try and investigate part of the non-common language of early middle ages (i mean old english) and experiment with those moods

maybe some greek or latin names?



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Posted By: elfangio
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 15:17
Originally posted by arqwave arqwave wrote:

try and investigate part of the non-common language of early middle ages (i mean old english) and experiment with those moods
I would suggest you NOT to do that, over-the-top cultural references sound a little bit too cliché in the prog world. Well, it's only my opinion, but I prefer good lyrics about everyday life's existential questions rather than pretentious litterature references...

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Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 15:21

i suppose, but the story is an ancient myth. it can have cutural refrences

 



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 15:40

in medieval english? While it's a greek myth?

right...



Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 17:02
idk, maybe he was just using it as an example?

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 17:15
I hope so, or else the album could become very confusing... Why not use Arab?


Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 17:17

lol

that makes less sense than old english

maybe by old english, he meant latin?



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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 17:20

There is always:

Use the theme of "Pandora's Box" in today's world, metaphorically.



Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 17:23
but how?

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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 17:31

Originally posted by dt_1928 dt_1928 wrote:

but how?

Pandora can be anyone.

War, plagues(aids), starvation...........

Through it all we still got hope, right?



Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 18:55
i didnt think of it that way

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Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: April 06 2004 at 18:59
If you want a shocking ending, you could always end with evil triumphing over hope. mind you, it's not the most popular choice, but it would be cool


Posted By: maani
Date Posted: April 07 2004 at 01:03

DT:

According to the myth, Pandora opened the box and released "sorrows," including "sickness and suffering and misery, hatred and jealousy and greed...and other cruel things that freeze the heart and bring on old age."  Another translation of the myth defines the things released as "ills," including "disease, despair, malice, greed, old age, hatred, violence, cruelty and war."

Re song titles, if you want to stick to the myth, you might want to start with "Opening the Box," and then name the songs for the various "sorrows" or "ills" (e.g., "Greed," "Violence," "Despair," etc.)  One specific suggestion would be "The Frozen Heart," which just sounds SO prog...

Anyway, that's my two cents.  Whatever you do, have fun, good luck, and let all of us hear it when you're done!

Peace.



Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 07 2004 at 09:50

She could also release...

JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGHHHHH! We're all doomed!



Posted By: dt_1928
Date Posted: April 07 2004 at 15:47

 

@maani

thats a great idea. the frozen heart is prog



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