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Topic: Proggiest National Anthem?
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: Proggiest National Anthem?
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 12:51
Of the ones I know (I hope I'm not biased), I think Argentina's the proggiest. It is very long for a national anthem (four minutes) with a dynamic classical overture, tempo changes, an instrumental section in the middle and a bombastic finale. There's an instrumental version that sounds way better but I can't find it in youtube.

any other national anthems?

PS: I don't know in what forum to put this in, whether the lounge or 'just for fun'. Free free to move it.



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Posted By: mellors
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 13:13
The National Anthem by Radiohead ;)


Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 13:24
The French one, of course......La MarseillaiseThumbs%20Up


Posted By: progadelic
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 16:02
The National Anthem by Jimmi Hendrix Wink


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 19:31

Original thread! Though there's not enough material to keep it alive for long.

La Marseillaise is the best. As is Deutschland Uber Alles.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 19:42
The proggiest National Anthem is England's unofficial one: Jerusalem by Blake and Parry, as covered by ELP  - followed closely by its 'official' one: Elgar's Land Of Hope And Glory, as performed by The Enid


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Posted By: *frinspar*
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 19:52
Now I feel bad for knowing so few LOL
And the handful I do know are pretty much just pomp and arrogan....hey, wait, they're all prog! Wink


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 20:08
Originally posted by Zitro Zitro wrote:

Of the ones I know (I hope I'm not biased), I think Argentina's the proggiest. It is very long for a national anthem (four minutes) with a dynamic classical overture, tempo changes, an instrumental section in the middle and a bombastic finale. There's an instrumental version that sounds way better but I can't find it in youtube.any other national anthems?PS: I don't know in what forum to put this in, whether the lounge or 'just for fun'. Free free to move it.


Zitro, can you believe a week ago in my school in an act of patriotism when they played the anthem I thought(kidding), hey it's kinda proggy.
Though I forgot to tell it here.

Very cool and original thread indeed. Argentina is a Prog Country, is it?


Posted By: santiagomo87
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 21:46
This saturday in a sigur ros concert in mexico , in the middle a brass band played iceland national anthem, maybe it's not the proggiest but it is the most post-rocky LOL

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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 22:15
O Canada stinks.

And I laugh every time I hear "our home and native land".


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 22:18
Originally posted by mellors mellors wrote:

The National Anthem by Radiohead ;)

The correct response Clap


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Posted By: WinterLight
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 23:23
Lyrically, a truly progressive national anthem would be the one that doesn't exist.


Posted By: endlessepic
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 00:44
If "Stars and Stripes Forever" were our anthem which it kind of is in a way, that would be it!  (USA) If you listen to Chet Atkins play it it is all over the place with timing and key changes.


Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 01:40
Deutsche Demokratik Republik


Posted By: Beastie!
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 01:54

My country (South Africa) has a national anthem comprised of four parts, each sung in a different language (isiXhosa, isiZulu, Afrikaans and English) and with totally different melodies and time signatures and stuff. That's very prog. It's called "Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika".



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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 02:26

The old anthem for the Soviet Union was extremely prog...



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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 03:49
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Original thread! Though there's not enough material to keep it alive for long.


La Marseillaise is the best. As is Deutschland Uber Alles.



actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned is from the nazi times (same melody though)

Originally posted by aprusso aprusso wrote:

Deutsche Demokratik Republik
   

“auferstanden aus ruinen und der zukunft zugewandt“ (risen from the ruins
and headed for the future) – now THAT makes me laugh...

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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 03:52
John Lennon's 'Nutopian National Anthem' from Mind Games. It's about 2 seconds of silence...The run-off groove.Now that's prog.

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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 05:50
Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned (Deutschland Uber Alles) is from the nazi times (same melody though)
You're both right and wrong. The German national anthem is the "Deutschlandlied". The lyrics were written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben in 1841. The first verse starts with the words "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles", the third verse with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit". During the time of the nazi-regime only the first verse was sung, nowadays the third verse is sung and was declared national anthem after the reunification. The melody, by the way, is "borrowed" from the "Kaiserhymne", which Joseph Haydn wrote for Austrian emperor Franz II.
"Auferstanden aus Ruinen" indeed was the national anthem of the former GDR. Interesting enough the lyrics of both of the national anthems can be sung to the melody of the other and vice versa.


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Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 07:50
Originally posted by Guzzman Guzzman wrote:

Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned (Deutschland Uber Alles) is from the nazi times (same melody though)
You're both right and wrong. The German national anthem is the "Deutschlandlied". The lyrics were written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben in 1841. The first verse starts with the words "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles", the third verse with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit". During the time of the nazi-regime only the first verse was sung, nowadays the third verse is sung and was declared national anthem after the reunification. The melody, by the way, is "borrowed" from the "Kaiserhymne", which Joseph Haydn wrote for Austrian emperor Franz II.
"Auferstanden aus Ruinen" indeed was the national anthem of the former GDR. Interesting enough the lyrics of both of the national anthems can be sung to the melody of the other and vice versa.
 
See? this complexity is VERY proggy...


Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 08:52
The South African anthem is very nice, it has excellent vocal arrangements. I love the version with African percussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APGZiMcDvYY&feature=related






Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 09:47
Originally posted by aprusso aprusso wrote:

Originally posted by Guzzman Guzzman wrote:

Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned (Deutschland Uber Alles) is from the nazi times (same melody though)
You're both right and wrong. The German national anthem is the "Deutschlandlied". The lyrics were written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben in 1841. The first verse starts with the words "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles", the third verse with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit". During the time of the nazi-regime only the first verse was sung, nowadays the third verse is sung and was declared national anthem after the reunification. The melody, by the way, is "borrowed" from the "Kaiserhymne", which Joseph Haydn wrote for Austrian emperor Franz II.
"Auferstanden aus Ruinen" indeed was the national anthem of the former GDR. Interesting enough the lyrics of both of the national anthems can be sung to the melody of the other and vice versa.
 
See? this complexity is VERY proggy...
Yeah, I guess that's true LOLLOL


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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 11:00
I find the "possibly to be anthem" of Finland very prog. We have a boring now, but there's a petition going, getting a lot of names listed for making Sibelius - Finlandia Hymn as our official national anthem. At least, this time the composer would be Finnish, and the lyricist would be Finnish-speaking. The problem is, most people won't be able to sing it.


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 11:04
From very (unreliable) memory, I think the Italian anthem has a really bizarre sudden tempo change in the middle which always strikes me as a tad 'proggy'

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Posted By: Vince
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 12:10
Of course, it's Anthem by Rush!
 
Sorry, bad joke... Embarrassed


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 14:22
Originally posted by Passionist Passionist wrote:

I find the "possibly to be anthem" of Finland very prog. We have a boring now, but there's a petition going, getting a lot of names listed for making Sibelius - Finlandia Hymn as our official national anthem. At least, this time the composer would be Finnish, and the lyricist would be Finnish-speaking. The problem is, most people won't be able to sing it.
 
If that happensa, Finland will officially be the country with the best anthem in the world... I love Sibelius, his 7 symphonies, his violin concerto, KArelia, etc... but "Finlandia" is amazing.., Sometimes it makes me shiver, and I'm not finnish..Tongue... I hope that happens...ClapClap
 
About Germany, yes, I was wrong about the name of the anthem... I was actually confused about the title, as it;'s quite nationalistic..and you've given me the information I needed... But Haydn's melody is great... I use to know all the lyrics, as I studied in a german-oriented school in Quito... (Deutsche Schule Quito)...(I'm not german at all by the way.. that's how things are in southamerica: there are "German schools" or "french schools" or "american schools".... Americans here never understand that concept of internationally-oriented education...)
 
By the way, Ecuador's national anthem, which many people in my country say is "second in the world after La MArsellaise", well, I think it's just an awful march... it sucks...


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 15:20
Without doubts the Peruvian National Anthem:
 
  1. Created to be played by Symphony Orchestra, not with band
  2. It's a multi part epic, narrates the Peruvian history during18:00 minutes (Of course we only sing one verse, because it would take too long and cassually this an apocriphal verse)
  3. One Central choir and 7 different verses.

You can check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anthem_of_Peru - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anthem_of_Peru

And http://www.mindef.gob.pe/menu/historicos/himno/himno.htm - http://www.mindef.gob.pe/menu/historicos/himno/himno.htm  the short version sung by Tenor Juan Diego Florez.
 
Ivpan


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 20:44
Originally posted by Vince Vince wrote:

Of course, it's Anthem by Rush!

Sorry, bad joke... Embarrassed


If you say Rush I say Deep Purple! Deep Purple - Anthem, well that's proggy!


Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: June 11 2008 at 23:18
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The old anthem for the Soviet Union was extremely prog...



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Posted By: Jabberwocky
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 12:46
Originally posted by Cheesecakemouse Cheesecakemouse wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The old anthem for the Soviet Union was extremely prog...



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BTW, the (relatively) new Russian anthem kept the music unchanged. Only the verse is different.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 13:01
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

From very (unreliable) memory, I think the Italian anthem has a really bizarre sudden tempo change in the middle which always strikes me as a tad 'proggy'


That's rightClap! It starts with a martial, slowish tempo, and then it suddenly speeds up.... Moreover, it's so pompous and bombastic (and that's just for the music... you should hear the lyricsDead!) that it MUST be progLOL!


Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 13:32
In a certain sense, all national anthems are "prog" not only for the music but also for the lyrics that are epic-like ones showing an imaginary and desired land with many exquisite metaphors supplied by different rhymes and unusual and rare words.

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 13:49
Rhapsody of Fire should write a national anthem... It would be so heroic... We just need a land with dragons though...Tongue.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 15:55
"God Save the Queen" as played by Gentle Giant.

As to the "Deutschland über alles" part of the German national anthem: Actually it no longer IS a part of the German national anthem (though it appears in the original lyrics of Hoffmann von Fallersleben); on the contrary, it is forbidden to sing that verse in Germany. When these lyrics were written they meant something totally different; there was no united Germany, just a few principalities in which German was spoken. Von Fallersleben wanted these principalities to unite to form Germany, as it finally happened in 1871; he was not of the opinion that Germany is superior to other nations, as the Nazis interpreted this verse.
The first verse of von Fallersleben's poem, in which this passage appears, is never sung. For official purposes always only the third verse of the poem is used, and this third verse is the official national anthem of Germany.
Here the full lyrics of the poem:

Das Lied der Deutschen
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt –
|: Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt! :|
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang –
|: Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang! :|
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand –
|: Blüh im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland! :|
The melody, by the way, is by Joseph Haydn and was used in his so-called "Kaiser quartet". The lyrics sung to the melody began with "Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser"; they praised the Kaiser of Austria.


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Posted By: electricsilence
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 19:20
Originally posted by Zitro Zitro wrote:

Of the ones I know (I hope I'm not biased), I think Argentina's the proggiest. It is very long for a national anthem (four minutes) with a dynamic classical overture, tempo changes, an instrumental section in the middle and a bombastic finale. There's an instrumental version that sounds way better but I can't find it in youtube.

any other national anthems?

PS: I don't know in what forum to put this in, whether the lounge or 'just for fun'. Free free to move it.


Absolutely, great anthem; I wish it were more symphony oriented, I mean not always been played with that awful military sounding drums.


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