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Topic: The Mike Patton thread....
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Subject: The Mike Patton thread....
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 00:43
well I did a search and could not find one. 

I am thinking that there may be some derision in the ranks on whether or not Patton is a genius.....
but to me, he can do no wrong...

so we can discuss all things Patton here?

oh and here is a great link to start things off...

http://www.fabchannel.com/mike_patton_concert/2008-12-06 - http://www.fabchannel.com/mike_patton_concert/2008-12-06




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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 01:00
You make a clickable link by highlighting the text you want hyperlinked and clicking on the little button that looks like this:

And you just copy-and-paste the web address into the box. 


Anyways, I like some of Patton's work with Zorn, but things like Bungle and Fantomas are usually a bit too heavy for my tastes. 


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 01:02
Me loves most of FNM's stuff, and Mr Bungle gets my tick of approval.
Fantomas I need to give it another go. I've heard all the albums, but never over and over again.


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 01:58
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

You make a clickable link by highlighting the text you want hyperlinked and clicking on the little button that looks like this:

And you just copy-and-paste the web address into the box. 


Anyways, I like some of Patton's work with Zorn, but things like Bungle and Fantomas are usually a bit too heavy for my tastes. 


thanks for the advice...

well Bungle was my introduction to the wacky side of Patton.  I had been a FNM fan for some time...I even have their "symbol" tattooed on meself....




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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 10:24
I like all the stuff Zorn does that features him and Mr.Bungle is incredible.

There are some people that make too big a deal over him, I think he works out as being a part of a project then the leader.


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 10:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqkoh_eEMBI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqkoh_eEMBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-rljHfz1xo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-rljHfz1xo

I love most of the projects he's involved in ... Kaada/Patton is particularly good. Even though it is all written by Kaada, Patton is a real asset ... huge stage presence. The only downside is that his extreme vocal style is probably difficult to reproduce on a constant level.


Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 12:09
I"m a big fan of Mr. Bungle and Patton's work with Zorn. I thought Peeping Tom was a little silly, and Fantomas grows against me the more I listen to it...

Disco Volante is one hell of an awesome album though.

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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 13:18
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqkoh_eEMBI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqkoh_eEMBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-rljHfz1xo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-rljHfz1xo

I love most of the projects he's involved in ... Kaada/Patton is particularly good. Even though it is all written by Kaada, Patton is a real asset ... huge stage presence. The only downside is that his extreme vocal style is probably difficult to reproduce on a constant level.


Kaada/Patton is outstanding!  have you heard the latest Zorn stuff with him on them?

Moonchild, Astronome, Six litanies to heliogabalus.......all great!


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 13:19
Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

I"m a big fan of Mr. Bungle and Patton's work with Zorn. I thought Peeping Tom was a little silly, and Fantomas grows against me the more I listen to it...

Disco Volante is one hell of an awesome album though.


Peeping Tom may be the most "mainstream" thing he has ever done, but I still love it......Fantomas, however are insane and great!


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 14:17
I like Mr. Bungle, FNM, Tomahawk, his solo albums were interesting, Zorn bootlegs have been entertaining, his work on Bjork's Medulla, and that stuff. Sometimes I think he gets to be too much though.


Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 14:34
its been a while since I've gotten into any Patton related project, got burned out after a while, I still haven't around to checking out those Zorn albums he's participated on recently, (Moonchild, Astronome, Six litanies to heliogabalus) maybe soon

oh yeah, Medulla was amazing,


Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 15:36
Also his work with The Dillinger Escape Plan was of note. Good stuff.

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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 18:53
Originally posted by mithrandir mithrandir wrote:

its been a while since I've gotten into any Patton related project, got burned out after a while, I still haven't around to checking out those Zorn albums he's participated on recently, (Moonchild, Astronome, Six litanies to heliogabalus) maybe soon

oh yeah, Medulla was amazing,


Bjork, right?  have not heard that one yet....


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 18:53
Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

Also his work with The Dillinger Escape Plan was of note. Good stuff.


absolutely.  I actually think it is the best DEP release ever!


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Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 20:03
I'm listening to Suspended Animation (Fantomas) at this very moment. It just arrived in the post. Highly enjoyable stuff!

After having heard numerous Bungle tracks, as well as Faith No More, much of his work with Zorn, and scraps of his other stuff i've realised i really need to grab some more Patton. I certainly need to get my hands on a couple of Mr. Bungle albums. And i'm definitely going to be picking up Delirium Cordia when i can.


Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 04 2008 at 20:51
Delirium Cordia is superb/genius....
 
but it is one long track....and many people cannot get into it.  It is sort of a dark ambient album.....and well, it is GREAT!


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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 13:15
I listened to Six litanies to heliogabalus, last night, simply amazing...Im definitely going to buy this one soon!  I think it was track 4 (Litany IV)...is definite proof what a vocal wizard Patton is, like I said Its been a while since I've paid any attention to Patton related projects but this reestablished my faith in the man, 


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 13:26
^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPsXRiV6yo4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPsXRiV6yo4

not from Litanies, but Moonchild (they're part of a trilogy, together with Astronomy).


Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 13:39
I love this man's work;
 
All of it, even the hip hop. Wink
 
I'm particularly impressed with the Zorn/Patton/Dunn collabs, Fantomas, Mike Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners, and Mr. Bungle.  Faith no More is pretty awesome, as is Peeping Tom, but they're not my favorites.  The man is so incredibly diverse that it's amazing.


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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 13:44

A few years ago I'd have laughed at the suggestion that Mike Patton is a genius, but his work with Fantomas and his Zorn collaborations show that he is, at the very least, a major talent and a supremely versatile vocalist. Delirium Cordia, Suspended Animation and the Moonchild/Astronome/6 Litanies sequence are all remarkable albums and at least 2 (Suspended Animation and Astronome) are 5* masterpieces. The man just goes from strength to strength.



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 13:59
^ did you deliberately leave out the Fantomas debut? IMO it's better than Suspended Animation.


Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 14:01
I'm still being enamored with The Directors Cut, really.
 
Spider Baby LOL


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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 14:09
^ an amazing album ... it's so cool, particularly when you know the movies.LOL


Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 14:21
I haven't bought any Fantomas since Directer's Cut, (which I absolutely adore), but think I may just pick up Delirium Cordia now that that Zorn album got me all excited for Patton again,

*hey wasn't there supposed to be a follow up EP to Dirctor's Cut where they do TV theme songs? or perhaps that was just an old internet rumor,


Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 14:23
has anybody else seen his acting debut?  I think the film is called Firecracker, it is about a circus and Patton plays a deliciously diabolical dude.....Wink

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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 14:27
Originally posted by mithrandir mithrandir wrote:

I haven't bought any Fantomas since Directer's Cut, (which I absolutely adore), but think I may just pick up Delirium Cordia now that that Zorn album got me all excited for Patton again,

*hey wasn't there supposed to be a follow up EP to Dirctor's Cut where they do TV theme songs? or perhaps that was just an old internet rumor,


you NEED "suspended animation", f**king brilliant, high energy album of short bursts of songs.  also you previous comment about 6litanies, the vocal track.....yeah that proves he is genius, right?

did everyone watch the link I posted at the beginning of the thread:  excellent concert footage...Clap


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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 15:17
I dunno about the debate between "Fantomas" and "Suspended Animation";
 
On one hand, you have the brilliantly original debut, but on the other, I feel that Suspended Animation is... I dunno, more refined?  It has a certain quality to it that I adore.


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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 15:28
^ I see your point, but I prefer the brilliant originality over the refinement. Besides, the debut is infinitely more sinister and brutal. Maybe it's also the inherent 60s/70s vibe.Smile


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 05 2008 at 16:12
Originally posted by Drakk Drakk wrote:

I dunno about the debate between "Fantomas" and "Suspended Animation";
 
On one hand, you have the brilliantly original debut, but on the other, I feel that Suspended Animation is... I dunno, more refined?  It has a certain quality to it that I adore.
 
For me Suspended Animation delivers what the debut promised; much as I like it, I don't think Fantomas has aged all that well, whereas Suspended Animation seems to reveal something new every time I listen to it.
 
As for Directors Cut - I read somewhere that they were going to include a version of Flashdance (What a Feeling), which could have been awe inspiring. I still think they should tackle some James Bond themes, or maybe action movies in general. My favourite cover versions this side of Laibach, whose German language version of Queen's One World is both funny and frightening 'Ein reich, ein volk, ein Laibach!' as one reviewer put it, and that was maybe the point that they were making.


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: July 06 2008 at 00:17
Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:


well I did a search and could not find one.  I am thinking that there may be some derision in the ranks on whether or not Patton is a genius.....but to me, he can do no wrong...so we can discuss all things Patton here?oh and here is a great link to start things off... http://www.fabchannel.com/mike_patton_concert/2008-12-06 - http://www.fabchannel.com/mike_patton_concert/2008-12-06


That concert is fantastic! There was a note about Patton releasing it on DVD eventually. I am greatly anticipating that day.


Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: July 06 2008 at 03:02
Mike Patton is among a few of the men I heil in the highest regard musically. Others include Trickster G (Garm), Mozart and Beethoven...a rather elite class if I may say so myself.


Bungle is my favorite project.   Fantomas are really amazing.  FNM is great.  Loveage is some of the most sensual music I've ever hear.  Scoot over Barry White.  I like some Peeping Tom...granted in small doses. Everything the man touches is gold.


Anyone hear Mondo Cane?  It's Patton singling Italian Pop songs backed by an orchestra.  Youtube it.  Studio album will be released soon.


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 08 2008 at 13:41
^Trickster G deserves his own thread for all of the great stuff he has done musically, especially his label, Jester Records, which has not released one bad thing;  all of the bands on that label rule.....check out Bogus Blimp if you like The Residents....

anyway, yeah keep it going guys, Patton Rules!


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 08 2008 at 13:53
anyone know anything about a new Fantomas album? that'd be really nice

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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: July 08 2008 at 19:33
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qPsXRiV6yo4

Thats one of the things that scare me about him....what do you think the sheets possibly have on them?

I always pictured simple math equations and pictures.


Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: July 08 2008 at 20:16
I would guess it's just words written down, maybe with some rhythmic indication in some sections.

"wind noises"
"crying"
"constipated whale"

Stuff like that Tongue Whatever it is, it's a great piece. Almost... transfixing.


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: July 18 2008 at 02:09
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

anyone know anything about a new Fantomas album? that'd be really nice


I have no idea about any set dates for anything relating to it, but I've read in some places that apparently no acoustic instruments are being used on the next album, but other than that, I don't know much more.


Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: July 21 2008 at 02:42
mike patton is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. He's one of the few vocal innovators or experimentalists that ive heard of. even if i dislike a song hes done, it is always so god d*mn interesting i cant turn it off.
Mr. BUngle is a favorite of mine but im getting into fantomas and want/need to check out Jon Zorn and all his stuff.
I also really like his collaboration with the Dillinger Escape Plan.
 


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 21 2008 at 13:31
his performance with The Dillinger Escape Plan is imo the best thing they have ever done!

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Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: July 21 2008 at 18:53
In terms of artists/bands that i admire most, Mike Patton in his various incarnations ranks right up there with The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Gabriel-era Genesis, etc.

There are very few people involved in making music that deserve the "genius" label, but he's one of them, IMO.

I have Angel Dust, all three Mr. Bungle albums, The Director's Cut, and Irony is a Dead Scene (all of which are totally essential, btw).

I want more Patton, but I'm unsure where to turn to next. Reading through this thread has helped somewhat, but I'm still not sure what to get next if, say, I only wanted to get 2-3 more albums that he's on.



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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 21 2008 at 20:48
I would recommend getting "Patton/Kaada- romances" next....it is a very intimate/private and emotional album.....somewhat avant garde.....all good!

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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 00:23
Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

In terms of artists/bands that i admire most, Mike Patton in his various incarnations ranks right up there with The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Gabriel-era Genesis, etc.

There are very few people involved in making music that deserve the "genius" label, but he's one of them, IMO.

I have Angel Dust, all three Mr. Bungle albums, The Director's Cut, and Irony is a Dead Scene (all of which are totally essential, btw).

I want more Patton, but I'm unsure where to turn to next. Reading through this thread has helped somewhat, but I'm still not sure what to get next if, say, I only wanted to get 2-3 more albums that he's on.



Check out John Zorn's Six Litanies for Heliogabalus.  It's a bunch of Zornian awesomeness, and features an 8-minute piece arranged for Patton alone. 


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 00:53
don't let it die!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAZ2J-RYaz8&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAZ2J-RYaz8&feature=related

Patton meets Bjork!


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