Recommend me some Prog-Related New Wave/Post-Punk
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Topic: Recommend me some Prog-Related New Wave/Post-Punk
Posted By: Prog-jester
Subject: Recommend me some Prog-Related New Wave/Post-Punk
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 05:09
I've been heavily on The Smiths/The Cure/Joy Division/Talk Talk for last 9 months or even more, and recently discovered Cocteau Twins and The Chameleons, another amazing band...I guess The Church and Kate Bush are also something I should check then. Ok, your suggestions on 'intellectual New Wave'?  What I shouldn't miss?
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 05:11
| Early Devo? |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 05:14
| I beg pardon? |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 05:18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzEwojYen0&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzEwojYen0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRguZr0xCOc&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRguZr0xCOc&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw&feature=related |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 14:12
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I guess Cardiacs goes without saying, other Post-Punk (or New Wave) that might appeal to you: Pere Ubu Family Fodder The Pop Group early Devo The Raincoats Y Pants DNA Liliput James Chance and the Contortions UT early Cabaret Voltaire XTC (first 2 are the more angular albums, afterward more New Wave and pastorale) Minimal Man Public Image Ltd Debris Swell Maps The Birthday Party Television (sort of) Wire Collin Newman (especially the album "A-Z") This Head (mandatory) The Work Massacre (Killing Time album) Skeleton Crew The Slits (sort of) early Killing Joke Alternative TV Chrome Christian Death (first album) Factrix The Homosexuals early Human League Magazine early Soft Cell MX-80 Talking Heads (duh) Depeche Mode (sort of) quite a variety but that should keep you occupied for a while |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 16:49
thnx a lot for recs!
just got their 'Marquee Moon', amazing stuff! |
mithrandir wrote:Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 17:14
Tom Verlaine had some amazing riffs man, |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 21:48
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The Passage - Pindrop (proto post rock)
The Sound - Jeopardy (proto post rock)
Comsat Angels - Waiting For a Miracle
Siouxsie & The Banshees - The Scream (punk), Join Hands (post punk) & Juju (proto-goth)
slightly earlier - Ultravox! (with the exclamation mark) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravox - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravox ! - (Krautrock inspired Art Rock with punk undertones)
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 21:51
second that recommend for Siouxsie and the Banshees... got a chance to dig through Raff's collection and listened to the albums she has. Great stuff Dean oh yes... Ultravox...  Thanks for reminding me....------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 22:45
Songs Of Faith And Devotion by Depeche Mode
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 02:36
 thnx for THESE especially I've heard Siouxsie, I also like her latest studio solo album, 'If it doesn't kill you' is a killer track there |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 10:14
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Someone mentioned Christian Death. While they aren't technically post-punk/new wave, I'd definitely recommend checking them out, especially if you enjoy the Joy Division/The Church type of stuff. Their first album is great, though their second album, "Catastrophe Ballet" is my personally favorite. Musically it shares a lot in common with the darker side of neo-prog (especially Arena). Lots of cool and "spooky" hooks. ------------- 
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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 15:05
I'd say its Post-Punk that overlaps with with the whole Deathrock/Goth movement, kind of like Bauhaus (who I forgot to mention!) Christian Death's Only Theater of Pain, is one of the most twisted and offensive albums ever made! Their other stuff is great too like like Catastrophe Ballet and Ashes, I even like some of the Valor albums like Atrocities, Sex Drugs and Jesus Christ, etc, Christian Death has somewhat of a complicated history though,
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:34
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Mithrandir's list is enough to kill anyone (but wonderful death i must say).............but surely you meant This Heat right? hehehe
Go get the This Heat 6cd boxset NOW, absolutely essential purchase...........Canterbury-Kraut Post Punk!!!! best!!!!
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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 00:19
This Head? ha! I didn't notice I did that, ...yeah This Heat is pretty much Post-everything.... |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:46
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How on Earth are The Smiths or Joy Division Prog Related? Kudos for enjoying The Chameleons though. Amazing band! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:17
by parallax view...
... while Joy Division and The Smiths are not remotely Prog in themselves, several bands in Post Rock and Crossover Prog where directly influenced by their sober melancholy and morose outlook and even some Progressive Metal bands have listed both as influence. While I would not go as far as to say that any of the bands suggested here should (or even would be) considered for Prog Related, it is without doubt that they have seriously affected the way in which a lot of later bands developed, including a lot of Progressive bands. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:25
| Interesting point.. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:32
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Not an expert on the topic but Drama by Yes, has New Wave influences and it's Prog. Though I'm sure you know that album. ...I have run out of sugestions, since you know, I'm no expert on this topic, I'm quite lost in here actually, I better leave soon, before I get a brain damage.. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:35
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^ stay a while - you can spare a few brain-cells - all "new" music is education, even if you don't like it, but you never know, you just might. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:43
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Some clever stuff not yet mentioned: http://jamiesrunoutgroove.blogspot.com/2007/12/athletico-spizz-80-do-runner.html - Athletico Spizz http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=130621388 - Lemon Kittens (did a stunning cover of Kites by pre-Gentle Giant 60's band Simon Dupree And The Big Sound) http://www.myspace.com/fibonaccis - The Fibonaccis (Half of Non-Credo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maucjGIUzzo - Lene Lovich and early http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbM-Yh-G9Vc - Human League . ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:57
Flock of Seagulls man! Errrr...wait a minute! Wrong website....sorry! 
I'll be leaving now. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:58
 Excellent suggestion - featuring the ever-so-wonderful Danielle Dax.------------- What? |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 21:00
that is a good one! Lemon Kitten's are excellent... a few more that come to mind The Flying Lizards The Red Krayola (their post punk period albums, Corrected Slogans, Soldier Talk, Kangaroo?, Black Snakes) |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 23:20
| Check out the Damned's "phantasmagoria" album. Their early albums are great, pure punk fun and madness, but "Phantasmagoria" was made during their "new wave" "goth" phase. Its great. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 09:27
thnx everyone!!!
I didn't say they actually are I just said I've been listening for them...for too much maybe
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Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 09:29
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THIS HEAT = Deceit Not really post-punk I guess, but it kinda is as well. It fins the vein though, and is also prog: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12040 - click this!! Also, more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_heat - here ------------- I'm a reasonable man, get off my case |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 09:48
Manchester music scene of the mid/late 70's..... and didn't the movie Control suggest members of Joy Division and the book Jon Savage's England's Dreaming suggest Morrissey were both present and influenced by the Sex Pistols first Manchester gig - and somewhere in there we have to include the Buzzcocks and Tony Wilson???? ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 09:54
not bad considering less than 40 people were reportedly in the audience that night.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: gsolman
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 23:41
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Given the fact that Joy Division were influenced by Can, Neu!, Roxy Music, Bowie, Doors and Kraftwerk it is not surprising to hear krautrock/art rock in their records. Martin Hannett was a producer who pushed them and wanted their records to have a unique atmosphere. I always thought quite a few of their songs - Day of the Lords, New Dawn Fades and Decades - are very ambitious given the self-imposed limitations many other bands of their day adhered to. Listening to Dead Souls again there is a 2:10 lead in before the vocals even come on. They certainly knew how to take their time to build up tension and emotion. I'm also surprised no one hasn't mentioned the only guy who ever made the Prog to Punk crossover, Mr. Peter Hammill. Nadir's Big Chance is great fun and has plenty of attitude and even some hooks. I think his existentialism/nihlism made it possible to go this route where say, Peter Gabriel, counldn't. That and the fact that we wasn't successful enough where he thought that he couldn't take chances. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 23:49
| Early Simple Minds certainly fits the bill for post-punk. The incredible "Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call" was produced by Steve Hillage, so there's your prog connection. |
Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 01:54
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Public Image Limited's 3rd album The Flowers of Romance is seriously crazed art-Kraut!!! damn awesome
New Order's 12inch singles were immensely epic n' powerful....Perfect Kiss, Subculture, Shellshock........and the 17min version of Elegia on the Lowlife reissue is prog electronics!!!
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