King's X vs Black Sabbath
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Topic: King's X vs Black Sabbath
Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Subject: King's X vs Black Sabbath
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 10:44
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What album do you prefer?...there are some similarities and some differences.
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 11:43
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As much as I love that Sabbath (its my fave of theirs), King's X is one of my all time favorite bands (and maybe in my top 3 live acts), and Gretchen is one of their best. So...Gretchen, hands down. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 13:11
| I have to got with BS. I haven't heard King's X CD. |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 13:20
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Sabbath bloody Sabbath, the athmosphere created in that album is amazing and captivating -------------  |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 13:48
| Black Sabbath, no matter how good Kings X are. |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 15:09
They are pretty damn good and Gretchen is a masterpiece. That's where my vote goes. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Abstrakt wrote:Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 15:33
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Gretchen is a hell of a lot better. But then again who really gives a F*** what I think. Sabotage is much better than Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 15:39
It doesn't seem quite right for someone to vote for Sabbath just because they haven't heard of King's X. I think the point of the poll was to vote for who you prefer. If you don't know one of the 'candidates' I don't think an objective choice can be made but I guess that's democracy for you.
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Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 16:45
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was for me the beginning of BS's decline, it seems that drugs had taken too much control over them at this time (my favorite 70's Sabbath album is Volume 4) as for King's X I liked 'em a lot then and I like 'em still now (I have most of their albums as well as sideprojects) and for me Gretchen is much better than SBS (even if it has some classic songs on it) ------------- Follow your bliss |
Posted By: obiter
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 18:53
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Gotta be Gretchen. I remember being blown away by Kings X when they backed ACDC (or was it Aerosmith) at the King's Hall in Belfast. Instant convert. Always a good sign when you can't remmber the headliner. Just like the time Tesla backed somebody at the Ulster Hall. It's always good to get all your facts straight and accurate. ------------- An té nach mbíonn láidir ní folláir dó bheith glic |
Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 19:03
| I know both candidates and have for years .. for me this is a very close poll Kings X win it though because of the vocal quality and over all lyrical consciousness, I find more to look into with them spiritually, their music makes me feel good and doesn't seem to make my day seem gray. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: September 23 2008 at 00:58
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King's X - Gretchen Goes To Nebraska
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 26 2008 at 13:30
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I agree with you Dr there are some similarities, mostly the ton of bottom end that both supply.I actually prefer the bass in KING X but prefer Ozzy's vocals and Iommi's guitar. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: September 26 2008 at 15:35
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I think one of the big differences in the two bands is that Sabbath always portrayed the dark, occult side of things while K X has kind of a Christian outlook. Surprisingly the music has similarities.
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: April 28 2009 at 18:44
| I've heard King's X and no, just no. Sabbath all the way. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 06:55
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath! ------------- 
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Posted By: AlanOB
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 10:13
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Really tough one. Gretchen is probably the more consistent of the two but SBS has more enduring classics. I voted for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath anyway but it's tough to separate the two. |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 10:56
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A friend borrowed me that King's X album a year and a half ago, I listened to it once or twice and can't remember liking it much. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath on the other hand is a marvellous album. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: AlanOB
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 12:11
| It's a grower. Give it another spin. |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 12:44
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I don't want to pick Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, because I plain don't like half the album. Ozzy is at his best vocally, though. Which is not saying much, but I am too lazy to listen to the opposition. I'll withhold my vote for now. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 13:50
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I hate King's X.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 14:22
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King's X is as dull and boring a band as I've ever heard... It's not even bad... or terrible... it's just the musical description of plain, bland.... nothingless described.... ------------- 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 14:27
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I thought that was the description that was applied to DT. Watch what you say. If you don't like how people talk about your favorite band, don't turn around and do the same sh*t to others. ------------- 
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 14:27
I had this exact same thought a moment ago when listening to Sabotage. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 14:31
I've read words like mine referring to DT about 200 times in just a month....
believe me... I give the same damn about what people say about my favorite band as people should give about what I think of their favorite band.
So I'll say what I want. I'm done with certain ways here.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 14:36
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Well, in that case I have just lost a lot of respect for you my friend. -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 14:40
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As you sow, so you reap... -------------
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 14:44
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Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 15:07
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Guys, guys King's X and Dream Theater are both incredibly bland, uninspired, and boring. No need to argue about it.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 15:11
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 16:05
Yeah, that era of Sabbath was kind to Ozzy. Too bad it wasn't kind to...anyone else in Black Sabbath. I've said it before. It is a sad, sad day when my favorite part of a Black Sabbath album is Ozzy's vocal delivery... |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 16:06
I re-fixed it!  |
Posted By: luger7
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 14:25
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This poll is lame... is like comparing Megadeth and Planet X or else... WTF? BLACK SABBATH ARE GODS... ------------- Viva .MX cabrones! |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:06
King's X self-titled album, 'faith hope love', 'gretchen goes to nebraska' and 'XV' are all 4-5 stars albums. I have to give another chance to 'dogman' as it is often regarded as one of their best.
Beatles playing bluesy hard-rock.
I don't really see the connection with Black Sabbath. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:08
What I have heard by King's X was very good (the first two albums so far), though I have some trouble in seeing their relation to Prog (have to listen more carefully, that's for sure). However, Black Sabbath are by far one of the most influential bands ever, and at least one of their albums features in my all-time favourites list (Heaven and Hell, in case you were wondering). So, I'm afraid there is really no contest here for me .
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:12
Any argument to explain your point of view ? King's X produced some of the best hard-rock ever. Dream Theater are a landmark band in the realm of prog metal. Albums like 'Images and words' and 'Awake' are true masterpieces. Yes, they show off a lot but there is also melody in their music.
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Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 00:13
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WTF? This is like comparing Deep Purple and Queen's Reich, or Uriah Heep and Fate's Warning. They're worlds (and generations) apart. What's the point? -------------  "Arf, she said" |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 11:00
I'll vote for Kings X...Gretchen. Excellent band! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: July 14 2009 at 00:21
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I voted on Black Sabbath. I think that "Spiral Architect" is a masterpiece. |
Posted By: persecutionmania
Date Posted: July 14 2009 at 19:42
Black Sabbath any day. 
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: July 14 2009 at 20:54
What he said. Plus, I can't stand Ozzy's voice. -------------  |