Mahavishnu Orchestra or Return To Forever
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Topic: Mahavishnu Orchestra or Return To Forever
Posted By: tszirmay
Subject: Mahavishnu Orchestra or Return To Forever
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 22:18
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2 jazz -rock pioneers , hard choices, so please explain
I went with Corea's gang but not easy  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 22:25
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And the score is tied 1-1
Overall great recordings from RTF, but the first 2 Mahavishnu''Inner Mounting Flame'' ''Birds of Fire'' are close to the holy grail for me!
This is heaven to my ears.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 22:29
 I said it wasn't easy , in fact I may even wind up switching my vote when I look back at Clarke's surly attitude live opening for Focus (yeah, what a show that was!) Balle au centre!------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 22:43
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Tough choice, but it's RTF for me. Hymn is such a great album. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 22:56
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That's incredibly hard. I guess I'll give the edge to McLaughlin and the gang.
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:11
You, who had them eliminated by Marillion???
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:12
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Long memory you have , Antoine, be forgiving, "les pauvres , ils ne comprennent pas" , remember ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:13
Mahavishnu Orchestra
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:13
I didn't eliminate them. I love both bands.  -------------
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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:43
And thus why I picked MO too. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 00:01
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"Birds Of Fire" beats anything RTF put out in my opinion,but looking at their discographies as a whole, it's really close for me. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 01:25
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Apples and oranges. Might as well ask me which of my sons I love more. ------------- 
"Arf, she said" |
Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 02:59
RTF is quality music... Mahavishnu is the Absolute which is beyond human comprehension and is beyond all attributes!  But seriously, even though I like the little I've heard from Corea's crew of virtuosos, it's not like I had any trouble voting for MO. Check The Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire, Apocalypse and VOOEB for reasons. ------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 04:38
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RTF is great but Mahavishnu Orchestra blew my mind away years ago and still does!I recently listened to
The lost Trident sessions  ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 06:25
| RTF, purely on the strength of Romantic Warrior. MO has big chops, but I'm a fan of melody. |
Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 08:28
| RTF for me, Mahavishnu is great but i can not pass up the amazing lineup of Corea ,Di Meola,Clarke and White. Possibly one of the greatest groups of musicians ever. |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 08:29
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Went with RTF only because I have to be in the right frame of mind for Mahavishnu. Both are exhilarating and exciting but RTF is easier on my aging psyche. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:46
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I like Return to Forever, but Mahavishnu Orchestra blew me away. MO is also one of the great influences on Prog bands, imo.
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:14
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TOO HARD TO CHOOSE!!!! love both bands.. ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:29
| Both are absolutely fabulous at their best, but the first 2 Mahavishnu are probably unsurpassed in jazz rock. |
Posted By: 33rpm
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:50
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Love both but RTF has many more great albums than MO. Listening to "Inner Mounting Flame" as I write this. ------------- Vinyl just sounds better!! |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:37
Mahavishnu Orchestra  ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 17:11
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RTF definitely, even though I just heard 3 of their albums. From MO also 3.
MO is too noisy, while experimental in a good way, for me. RTF is what I would say a perfect Jazz Fusion band
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 20:09
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RTF -------------  |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 02:24
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RTF pales in comparasin to the almightly Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Cobham > White McLaughlin > DiMeola Laird > Clarke Hammer = Corea Goodman > ...Flora Purim?
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 11:07
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Posted By: Urs Blank
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 06:25
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A friend recently offered me the Return To Forever's Anthology, and so I am currently into RTF more than Mahavishnu Orchestra. Both are great but I have a small preference for Corea's band. ------------- Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. Salvador Dali. |
Posted By: ____VdGG____
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 15:36
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Rick Laird is better than Stan Clarke? Really? No offense, but Rick Laird was a VERY mediocre bass player, and was really outclassed by the rest of the group IMHO. Mahavishnu Orchestra had some deadly tunes, but Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy gets my vote for best fusion album ever, so it is apparent where my preference lies! ------------- Iron throated monsters are forcing the screams; Mind and machinery box-press our dreams |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 16:02
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I've heard both Mahavishnu albums and Romantic Warrior from RTF. RTF are good, but the album never really won me over fully. Both Mahavishnu albums are excellent, on the other hand. |
Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 16:06
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Mahavishnu.
I love Chic - but you just can't eff with Mahavishnu John
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Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 16:21
Yet another hard poll but I raise my thumbs on Armando Corea's band 
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 17:20
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Return To Forever, but damn, that really was a hard choice. Corea won it for me though with his utterly SPOTLESS and beautiful playing.
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