Top 5 Proto Prog Albums!!!!!!!!!
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Topic: Top 5 Proto Prog Albums!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Subject: Top 5 Proto Prog Albums!!!!!!!!!
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 02:03
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Top 5 Proto Prog Albums!!!!!!!!!
These are the albums that began the prog movement in rock and all prog bands owe their allegiance to these incredible artists who were innovative before innovation was a key word in prog.
Lets start with mine - I have them all and this was easy as the first ones that popped into my skull were
1 Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band - Beatles
2 Who's Next - The Who
3 Days of Future Passed - Moody Blues
4 Made In Japan - Deep Purple
5 The Doors - The Doors
Special mention to the track 'In A Gadda Da Vida' - Iron Butterfly
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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 05:56
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Hmmm. From the bands listed on the prog archives as proto prog:
The Who - Who's Next
Beatles - Abbey Road
Its a Beautiful Day - Its a Beutiful Day
Deep Purple - In Rock
Jefferson Airplane - After Bathing at Baxters
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 10:13
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1. Beatles - Revolver 2. Procol Harum - Procol Harum 3. Beatles - Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band 4. The Doors - The Doors 5. Surrealistic Pillows - Jefferson Airplane As you'll have seen, all of the above are from before 1969. That year King Crimson released In The Court Of The Crimson King - and the term Proto-Prog, if taken seriuosly, could no longer be used. ------------- "We've got to get in to get out" |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 11:31
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Hmmm, I only go for The Beatles, but I'm not sure about order. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 11:41
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The Who - Quadrophenia Deep Purple - Machine Head Arthur Brown Band - The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown The Beatles - Revolver The Doors - Strange Days |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 11:54
I don't know who is exacly ''proto-prog-'' but looking at the lists above, i get the idea
-Beatles: Sergent Peppers
-Procol Harum: First album
-Deep purple: In rock......................is this ''proto prog'' DP.???.....sounds like Hard rock to me!
-Beatles: Abbey Road
-The doors; 1st album
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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 14:45
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The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper
The Who - Quadrophenia
Jefferson Airplane - After Bathing At Baxter's
The Beatles - Abbey Road
The Doors - The Doors
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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 03:55
This is a good point.
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Guzzman wrote:Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 04:26
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Well, lemme think...
1. Quadropheania...is a cheat, good sir, a cheat, since the Who did this in NINETEEN SEVENTY FRIGGIN' THREE. Anyways, Quad is still among my absolute favorite albums of all time, so give it some props no less.
2. Strange Days...is just about the most perfect album ever. Everything flows perfectly, all the songs are good, the concept is solid but the variety is there too, even the cover fits the mood. If only it weren't so short...
3. Procol Harum...had a debut. And it was amazing. Quite possibly the most underrated band of all time...you know, outside of a garage, where the REAL geniuses work.
4. Music in a Doll's House...is an album by Family, which is a band that I did not set out to like, but ended up liking all the same, and this fine, fine album turned out to be one of the best products of the sixties that I'd ever heard. Fancy that.
5. Pets Sounds...has balls of steel it does! Hoo boy. If this album ain't art, then I don't know what is; but no matter what, it's beautiful. It also means that my list starts and ends with albums that really shouldn't be on it! HA! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 05:54
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This is not really my category but after hard thinking I came up with these five. They date from my youth.
1. Burn-Deep Purple
2. In Rock-Deep Purple
3. Grand Hotel-Procol Harum
4. Exotic Birds & Fruit-Procol Harum
5. The Doors-The Doors ------------- A day without prog is a wasted day |
Posted By: burtonrulez
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 10:54
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Since I don't agree with the archives uidelines for protoprog I will list albums that I see suitable.
1. The Doors -Strange Days
2. Velvet Underground- Velvet Underground & Nico (Not listed in the archives but a lot more progressive than a lot of bands that are!)
3. Jefferson Airplane - Surrealistic Pillow
4. Tim Buckley - Goodbye and Hello (listed as prog folk, released in 1967 so...)
5. The Beatles - Revolver (like proto-protoprog)
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 01:28
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All good selections so far
any more lists people? -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 06:34
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...sticking to pre-1970 Proto Prog albums
1. Beatles ~ Magical Mystery Tour EP
2. Kaleidoscope ~ A Tangerine Dream
3. Deep Purple ~ Book Of Taliesyn
4. The Who ~ Tommy
5. It's A Beautiful Day ~ It's A Beautiful Day
However... since many Prog bands started out as Proto, my proto Prog albums from all genres would be:
1. Pink Floyd ~ A Saucerful of Secrets
2. Renaissance ~ Renaissance 3. Tangerine Dream ~ Electronic Meditation4. Soft Machine ~ The Soft Machine
5. The Moody Blues ~ In Search Of The Lost Chord
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 09:59
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Not being particularly well-fed with music of this category, I can't limit myself to the luxury of only listing pre-70s albums. But here they are: 1. The Who - Who's Next 2. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper/Magical Mystery Tour 3. Deep Purple - In Rock 4. Deep Purple - Fireball 5. The Who - Quadrophenia |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 17:42
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1. Doors - Full Circle 2. Deep Purple - Concerto For Group & Orchestra 3. The Who - On Tour 4. Vanilla Fudge - The Beat Goes On 5. Iron Butterfly - Ball |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 18:55
This is a one of a kind list
 !!!!!!!.....Are you sure of that??? The beat goes on?????...not Renaissance or their first album?
Full Circle??? better than any Morrison-led Doors???
DP- Concerto??/ the best early DP??
What is The Who on tour???/never seen this one??
I don't know Ball, so icannot judge this one!
We need some comments from you to explain your choices
 I am curious to know! Thanks |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 20:01
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Really do not like this label but .....
1- Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come - Journey
2- Beatles- White Album (personal reasons)
3- Procol Harum- Exotic Birds & Fruit
4- Deep Purple- Machinehead
5- Beatles- Abbey Road ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 23:58
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Iron Butterfly's Ball is an interesting choice. Don't think I'd put in any top 5 list, but In the Time of Our Lives is a pretty good song, as is Soul Experience. I no longer have the album, but I have a greatest hits that has those two songs and they are above par for the course. Strange band, that Iron Butterfly. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 00:28
IMO Tommy is far better than most of this albums, but I don't believe The Who are Proto Prog). Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 00:36
Yep those two
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 06:10
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Limiting myself strictly to artists labelled proto prog in PA and pre-1969, then: 1. Beatles, Pepper
2. H.P. Lovecraft, II
3. Touch, Touch
4. Vanilla Fudge, Renaissance 5. Procol Harum, Shine on Brightly |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 19 2008 at 04:22
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(sorry coz some of those are not listed as proto prog at PA so please dont shoot me!)
Beaver & Krause - "The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music" (1967)
Grateful Dead - "Athem of the Sun" (1968)
Aorta - s/t (1968)
It's A Beautiful Day - s/t (1968)
The Who - "Tommy" (1969)
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 19 2008 at 04:42
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p.s. off the topic, some '70s prog RELATED: The Who - "Who's Next", (1971) "Quadrophenia"(1973)
TOMMY the movie soundtrack (1975)
Grateful Dead - "Wake of the Flood" (1973) "Blues for Allah"(1975)
Steely Dan - "Royal Scam" (1976)
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 19 2008 at 23:56
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Those are good choices. i was listening to some Procol Harum last night and they are definitely worth a mention esp Salty Dog and First Album and Shine on Brightly. Classic proto prog.
The Nice are worth a mention too! -------------
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 01:57
Trust me, Ball fits. It's no Inna Gadda, that's fer sure... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 13:22
The Nice are a Symphonic bands, their similarities with
Are so big, that i would be absurd to have them in Proto Prog...While most of the bands were doing mostly an elaborate form of Psyche (90% or more PP bamnds have an obvious Psyche connection), The Nice was doing complex and elaborate re-works on classical music. Ivàn -------------
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Posted By: Bunburyist
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 09:47
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Dis is ain o' th' saddest fings oan innernet.
Yew lort ur troolay CLUELESH.
Larfabllay so.
Shuld be arshamid o' yersells.
Perfick exarmple o' wildwest facteur o' th' Weeb -'ow ainnay a-monkay kin post ainnay kind o' roobish tha' fust coombs ter monkay haid.
Awl feckin' misrepresentatioon raithur den preesentin' pernant farkt.
The Nice & Procol - maist certainlay.
Aorta -posserablay...arctooallay, a guid soobmission.
Th' rest wot yews browt oop hus NUFFINK ter do wif Proto.
(Doan take it personal, loikes, bur it haed ter be said.
Maist fowk doan respond ter unvarnishid truf. An' truf-sayers wot dare delivah th' cauld crystal-cleer guids ur nort exactlay th' maist popular o' fowk.)
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Posted By: Bunburyist
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 09:59
| Sorray -didunt see Early Prog's soobmissioons. |
Posted By: Bunburyist
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 10:02
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"Buik o' Talysin."
"Renaissance".
Princiepoos alser arccepts thais.
Mebbe Arfur alser.
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 10:39
Ah yeah, nothing like the raunching guitar riffs and the non-progressive leanings of a short and concise tune like Child in Time ;-) ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 11:42
That would be Progressive, but it isn't Proto - proto would be tracks like April, Anthem, The Shield and Mandrake Root.
for those in doubt listen to April from 1969:
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 13:21
You don't have to be sarcastic and nasty, my friend, do you??
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 14:17
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Oh, thought I was rather mild with than comment - ironic more than sarcastic :-)
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 00:38
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Quad rocks. 1. The Who - Quadrophenia 2. Procol Harum - Procol Harum 3. Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-da-Vida 4. Vanilla Fudge - Vanilla Fudge 5. The Doors - The Soft Parade Honors to: Deep Purple - Machine Head Nirvana - Dedicated to Markos III Spirit - Spirit Tomorrow - Tomorrow |
Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 16:18
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How can albums like Who's next, Quadrophenia or Machine Head be consider proto-prog?
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 16:40
There's no way this albums can be Proto Prog, Proto means previous or antecesor, in 1971 Prog already existed, not to say in 1973, both bands should be in Prog Related IMO. Iván -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 16:55
the albums aren't obviously. .the groups are... but whoever listed them probably just half-assed the question to mean 'top 5 albums by artists listed by the site AS proto-prog' ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 16:59
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1- Concerto For Group and Orchestra 2- The Doors 3- The Book of Taliesyn 4- A Saucerful of Secrets 5- A Quick One Of course these are Proto Prog albums. If I it was Top 10 albums by bands listed in Proto Prog, then the list would be completely different....... |
Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 18:46
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Since Hendrix is not here: 1 Deep Purple Selftitled
2 Magical Mystery Tour
3 Quiksilver messenger service - Happy trails
4 The cheerful insanity of Giles Giles and Fripp
5 The thoughts of Emelist Dayjack- The nice
Honorable mention: The Doors selftitled
Disraeli Gears- Cream
Almendra selftitled
Love - Forever Changes
V.U & Nico/ White Light , White heat
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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:07
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1. Deep Purple - self-titled & Taliesyn - can't separate these two, I feel. 2. Crazy World of Arthur Brown
3. Procol Harum - self titled
4. A Quick One While He's Away - The Who
5. Sgt Pepper
Agree with whoever said shame no Hendrix. ------------- It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 17:46
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1. Abbey Road-The Beatles
2. Sgt. Pepper-The Beatles
3. Tommy-The Who
4. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida- Iron Butterfly
5. Revolver- The Beatles
Other close ones would be The White Album, Quadrophenia, Machine Head, The Doors, Deep Purple, and The Soft Parade. -------------  Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 06:15
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My tuppence worth...
1. Pretty Things - SF Sorrow
2. Beatles quartet: Revolver / Magical Mystery Tour / Sgt. Pepper's / Abbey Road
3. Giles, Giles & Fripp - The Cheerful Insanity Of
4. The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown
5. Jefferson Airplane - After Bathing At Baxter's
Others: Tommy, Deep Purple, Book Of Taliseyn, Freak Out!, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 18:05
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Grateful Dead - Anthem of the Sum (not a progressive rock record, my ass)
Spirit - A Family That Plays Together....
The Who - ....By Numbers
The Airplane - Crown of Creation
The Beatles - Rubber Soul
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: January 11 2009 at 15:18
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It is an absolute crime that nobody has mentioned H.P. Lovecraft's debut. That is easily my favorite proto-prog album.
Days of Future Passed should be on every list. The only reason for excluding it would be if you consider it the founding album of pure progressive music and thus not proto.
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Posted By: Trial and Error
Date Posted: February 11 2009 at 09:34
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1. The Doors - The Doors. 2. Arthur Brown - The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. 3. Procol Harum - A Salty Dog. 4. Deep Purple - Shades of Deep Purple. 5. Iron Butterfly - In A Gadda Da Vida. However, both Electric Ladyland and Disraeli Gears would easily make it in the top three. I forgot that Iron Butterfly is on the archives.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Trial_And_Error/?chartstyle=SidebarRed1"> 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 11 2009 at 11:17
Here we have a hope that friendly disagreement, Days of Future Passed is not in my list because I consider it a POP album with artificial Orchestral intros and codas for every song. The orchestral arrangements never really blend with the central piece, this are only artificial ornaments that can be added or deleted at will without affecting the POP vocation of the album. Tuesday Afternoon and Nights in White Satin are the perfect examples, I heard a lot of versions by The moody Blues without the Orchestra that don't affect the integrity of the music at all, but gave them the chance to have two top 40 songs. But, it's only my opinion. Iván -------------
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Posted By: AmericanProgster
Date Posted: February 11 2009 at 13:56
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In no particular order:
Velvet Underground - With Nico (Why the hell aren't they on here!?!?!
 )Deep Purple - Deep Purple
Iron Butterfly - Ball
Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland ------------- https://dawnapproach.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://dawnapproach.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/dawn-approach" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/dawn-approach |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 11 2009 at 15:08
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Posted By: Rank1
Date Posted: February 11 2009 at 17:13
The reason why no one should consider the Velvet Underground because at the core are a three chord 4/4 band with no technical and vocal ability. Noise Rock does not make you a Proto-Prog band. They are Proto-Punk and Avant Rock. They are extremely overrated.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 12 2009 at 16:31
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1. Sgt. Pepper-The Beatles
2. White Album-The Beatles
3. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida- Iron Butterfly
4. Days of Future Passed - Moody Blues
5. Surrealistic Pillow - Jefferson Airplane -------------
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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: February 13 2009 at 02:39
I think these two bolded can't be called proto-prog albums since they have been released after the prog already established itself, 1971 and 1972 respectively.
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