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Hatfield and the North appreciation!

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Topic: Hatfield and the North appreciation!
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Subject: Hatfield and the North appreciation!
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 16:22
so I recently picked up their two albums (with bonus tracks), and I am stunned at how refreshing and original this stuff sounds!  It seems that most of the best music truly was written in the 70s!  (well at least current stuff is a retread at best)  I want more Canterbury stuff because I think HATN are absolutely genius!  They have all of the elements a person could want in their music;  virtuosity, talent, great solos, excellent lines, some great Jazz sensibilities thrown in for good measure.....all in all a great vibe!  who else should I check out for Canterbury stuff?  I have two Egg albums already.....  Clap

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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 16:40
They released two of my favorite albums ever. Plus, the line-up is just wow. Only way it could have gotten better is if Robert Wyatt'd been there the whole time. Clap

As for other Canterbury bands to check out, check out the big names first I guess : Caravan, Soft Machine, National Health...

Canterbury bands are all really different but all really similar at the same time. Try 'em and I'm sure you'll grow to like 'em a lot too.


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Posted By: YesFan72
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 18:06
Gong is also very good.

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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 18:08
Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Gong is also very good.


Yep they're one my top favorite bands but I never thought they were really Canterbury bands. The similarities are numerous though.

Hmm just checked. I didn't know they were listed in Canterbury now.


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 18:38
would anybody know where to find Soft Machine's "bundles" for a reasonable price?  I love Holdsworth and that is one of the albums he played on that I want....

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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 19:18
Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

would anybody know where to find Soft Machine's "bundles" for a reasonable price?  I love Holdsworth and that is one of the albums he played on that I want....
 
This album hasn't been re-edited in America and Europe for more a decade. I got mine in a nice Japanese mini-lp somewhere on Ebay...paid something like $20/22  the best i can remember.
 
I still prefer SOFTS, their following album with Etheridge on guitarHeart


Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 19:20
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

would anybody know where to find Soft Machine's "bundles" for a reasonable price?  I love Holdsworth and that is one of the albums he played on that I want....
 
This album hasn't been re-edited in America and Europe for more a decade. I got mine in a nice Japanese mini-lp somewhere on Ebay...paid something like $20/22  the best i can remember.
 
I still prefer SOFTS, their following album with Etheridge on guitarHeart


well I have not heard either, so cannot comment.


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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 04:01
Thoroughly recommend Gong's You.
 
Check out The Isle Of Everywhere in particular. If you like that, I'd go for Hillage's Fish Rising solo album.
 
Other good listen is Caravan - full sound and quirky lyrics, too. Not the most popular release with some fans, I rate For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night. The earlier In the Land of Grey and Pink is good too, and easier to get.
 
CryI've only got For Girls on vinyl so if anyone knows where I can get a download or a reasonably priced CD, please let me know.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 08:28
As a natural continuation of the Hatfields, though minus Richard Sinclair's inimitable vocals, you should really check out National Health. Their first, self-titled album contains one of the very best Canterbury 'epics' in "Tenemos Roads", and is on the whole somewhat more accessible than their second, Of Queues and Cures. Both are highly recommended. As for Caravan, my personal favourite is their second, If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - though In the Land of Grey and Pink is wonderful as well.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 08:49
What she said. + Everything involving Robert Wyatt (Soft Machine, Matching Mole, solo) up to and including Rock Bottom . Wait a while with End of an Ear though.

Brilliant Canterburian stuff from other places: Picchio Dal Pozzo (debut), Cos (two first, Supersister (three first), Moving Gelatine Plates (two first).

And get that last Egg album


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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 10:39
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

As a natural continuation of the Hatfields, though minus Richard Sinclair's inimitable vocals, you should really check out National Health. Their first, self-titled album contains one of the very best Canterbury 'epics' in "Tenemos Roads", and is on the whole somewhat more accessible than their second, Of Queues and Cures. Both are highly recommended. As for Caravan, my personal favourite is their second, If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - though In the Land of Grey and Pink is wonderful as well.
 
I notice someone is back  in business full timeLOL..Welcome backWink


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 12:23
There's an old Canterbury appreciation thread hanging around if you're inclined to post in it, has some pretty good information in there.  Everyone's already given their recommendations with which I wholeheartedly agree, and would only add that I place National Health as #1 on the list, and that you should acquire their first two albums before getting anything else.


Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:15
Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

would anybody know where to find Soft Machine's "bundles" for a reasonable price?  I love Holdsworth and that is one of the albums he played on that I want....
 
This album hasn't been re-edited in America and Europe for more a decade. I got mine in a nice Japanese mini-lp somewhere on Ebay...paid something like $20/22  the best i can remember.
 
I still prefer SOFTS, their following album with Etheridge on guitarHeart


well I have not heard either, so cannot comment.


Get Floating World Live and BBC 1971-1973 (or whatever volume 2 is called) by Soft Machine.

Both feature material from Holdsworth and Etheridge era.

Bundles and Softs are very hard to find on CD. Ouch


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:17
Also recommended are:

Phil Miller's In Cahoots

Plus if you love Soft Machine and Hatfield and the North, get Soft Heap's album.  It's excellent.

I've yet to give them a listen, 'cause I don't have any but try:

Pip Pyle's Bash
L'Equipe Out


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:26
Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:


Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

would anybody know where to find Soft Machine's "bundles" for a reasonable price? I love Holdsworth and that is one of the albums he played on that I want....


This album hasn't been re-edited in America and Europe for more a decade. I got mine in a nice Japanese mini-lp somewhere on Ebay...paid something like $20/22 the best i can remember.


I still prefer SOFTS, their following album with Etheridge on guitarHeart
well I have not heard either, so cannot comment.
Get Floating World Live and BBC 1971-1973 (or whatever volume 2 is called) by Soft Machine.Both feature material from Holdsworth and Etheridge era.Bundles and Softs are very hard to find on CD. Ouch


I would say to get Soft Machine British Tour '75. It has the best songs from Bundles, as well as 2 songs from Softs. It also has some amazing jamming/solos. Highly recommendable if you don't have Bundles and Softs.


Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:28
I need that one too, actually.  Thanks for the recommendation!

There's still lots of live Soft Machine I want.

Does anyone know if there's an official release for that French gig on YouTube with Lyn Dobson on it?  I'd love a hi-fidelity version.


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:31
^no prob. Anyways, in another thread I commented, but dunno if you read it, that in your avatar, if you blink fastly it really dizzes you, seems like a optical illusion...hmmm, Magma fans are brain-washers with their wicked avatars/signatures....MAGMA IS THE BEST!


Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 19 2008 at 00:40
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

There's an old Canterbury appreciation thread hanging around if you're inclined to post in it, has some pretty good information in there.  Everyone's already given their recommendations with which I wholeheartedly agree, and would only add that I place National Health as #1 on the list, and that you should acquire their first two albums before getting anything else.


Natural, is obvious your love to Hatfield LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLWink


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 19 2008 at 05:14
National Health were even better. I see many have recommended them already. First album in particular is definitely one of my favourites of the 70s.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 19 2008 at 14:02
Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

There's an old Canterbury appreciation thread hanging around if you're inclined to post in it, has some pretty good information in there.  Everyone's already given their recommendations with which I wholeheartedly agree, and would only add that I place National Health as #1 on the list, and that you should acquire their first two albums before getting anything else.


Natural, is obvious your love to Hatfield LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLWink


Really a love for all things Dave Stewart (well, maybe not so much "It's my party") and yes, I do little to hide it.  Tongue


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 20:32

Hatfield's self-titled is quite nice indeed.  I especially like how the lyrics are all "hello, this is our record, hope you like it, if not that's ok too...."  Approve

A nice gateway album to Canterburydom.
 
 


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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 20:42
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

There's an old Canterbury appreciation thread hanging around if you're inclined to post in it, has some pretty good information in there.  Everyone's already given their recommendations with which I wholeheartedly agree, and would only add that I place National Health as #1 on the list, and that you should acquire their first two albums before getting anything else.


Natural, is obvious your love to Hatfield LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLWink


Really a love for all things Dave Stewart (well, maybe not so much "It's my party") and yes, I do little to hide it.  Tongue
 
Even Spin and the Big Idea , his 2 collabs with Barbara Gaskin?   Just curious, coz I have them in tape form  (remember those) Confused


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 21:36
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

There's an old Canterbury appreciation thread hanging around if you're inclined to post in it, has some pretty good information in there.  Everyone's already given their recommendations with which I wholeheartedly agree, and would only add that I place National Health as #1 on the list, and that you should acquire their first two albums before getting anything else.


Natural, is obvious your love to Hatfield LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLWink


Really a love for all things Dave Stewart (well, maybe not so much "It's my party") and yes, I do little to hide it.  Tongue
 
Even Spin and the Big Idea , his 2 collabs with Barbara Gaskin?   Just curious, coz I have them in tape form  (remember those) Confused


I haven't heard much Stewart/Gaskin, but descriptions of the music indicate that I probably wouldn't care for it too much.  My love for his work is restricted to what he did before he gave up on prog.



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