Cozy Powell
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Topic: Cozy Powell
Posted By: Snow Dog
Subject: Cozy Powell
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:15
Theres a lot of this question at the moment it seems so heres my go How about putting Cozy Powell in the Archives?------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:17
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Well, he did play with Emerson & Lake and he did cover VDGG's 'Theme One' on his album 'Over the Top' So yeah, why not! I'm prepared to forgive him for Whitesnake and MSG - indeed I didn't mind the former ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:26
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No No No
Again a suggestion for breeching the dyke, it'll be Whitesnake next.
Heavy drummer, who by reputation couldn't do a drum roll. I enjoyed his Over The Top album when it was first released, enough to seek out the CD compilation with samples from his three solo albums, but there is some cringeworthy tunes on the CD as well as handful of great jazz blues rock pieces. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:36
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Heavy skin pounder in the mould of Bonham! If we are to include drummer's solo carreer than we should start with Ainsley Dunbar (Zappa and Journey) Too bad his solo album were too bluesish for inclusion! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:52
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no no no! man, powell rules on whitesnake, and you know it!! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:55
Cozy Powell was also a member of Rainbow, which were prog metal of sorts. So add him!!!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 16:06
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No He has a no no vote for me..I don't know the story behing Emmerson & Lake choosing him for ELPowel but it was more than a chance he needed the work.On thing i do know is he was the worse thing to happen to the above..I'll give the guy a break regarding his tragic road accident but he no prog man.
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 16:30
| About the only thing he did solowise IMO that was progressive was his Tilt album with Jeff Beck and David Sancious. Great album with a lot of fusion in it. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 17:53
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His first album "over the top" is far more prog than "tilt" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 17:59
| His solo stuff has definite prog credentials although he was like a fish out of water with ELP.But I would rather remember him for the solo albums he made in the late seventies/early eighties which are very good and would not be out of place in the archives. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 18:04
Too right |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 18:07
| So the third album where he covers 'The 666 Squadron' and 'The Big Country' and features an orchestra isn't really prog then?? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 18:11
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I'll be honest ahd say that I've only heard his first two ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 18:15
I had a tape of it once.I'm not sure it is prog really |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 18:38
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I remeeber Tommy Vance playing Phenomenna.Wasnt Wetton in it? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 20:53
| Never heard Over The Top. Who's on it? |
Posted By: Will Veda
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 01:38
| The best band Cozy Powell ever played in was Bedlam who also included ex-Procol Harum guitarist, David Ball. They only put out one album and I was lucky enough to catch them warm up for Black Sabbath in 1973. This was the first concert I ever attended and Bedlam was the very first band live band I ever witnessed. Ah, sentiment. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 07:20
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Gary Moore/Jacck Bruce/Don Airey among others. When I unearth my tape I can fill in more details ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 07:22
Why did Cozy write that album? If you dont like it thats your Issue, blaming the drummer though? I dont think so. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:11
So what about it then? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:21
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Over The Top was proggy.It had jazz rock elements,but with the accent firmly on the "rock" There title track is Prog Rock,it even includes a re-working of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture. Based on the Queen II example,Cozy Powell could be added. As an aside,whilst I love Rainbow and anything that pairs up Don Airey and Gary Moore,I always thought that Cozy was over-rated.I feel that his reputation was built on "Dance With the Devil" which was a huge hit in the British Singles Chart.Famous for his double bass drum work (?!) which was pulsating if nothing else,his overall drum work could be relatively ordinary and unimaginative.As someone here has already said,he was like Bonham-lite. Seemed like a nice bloke though. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:25
I would go further and say that "Over The Top" is a genuine Prog album in entirety, rather than the sham of Prog that is Queen II! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:47
Whitesnake not prog, what about 'In The Still Of The Night'? 80's Poodle Rock, don't ya just love it!   ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:35
 Oh dear, Oh dear Thanks, Sigod - to think Whitesnake came to this, after classic lineup from 1980! "Hey everyone - let's all suck in our cheeks & see who looks the most like David Coverdale" -------------  Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:41
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Whitesnake has some prog elements in their music and Mr Coverdale has always been able to put on a decent band, some of them very proggers indeed Steve Vai Don Ayrey Reb Beach John Sykes Cozy Powell Jon Lord Ian paice Micky Moody (no prog at all, but great blues player) and here´s a small list of songs that blink an eye to prog: In the Still of the night Judgement day Crying in the rain wings of the storm Sweet Lady luck Slip of the tongue Sailling ships But hey... im not promoting the Snakes to the progarchives
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:43
This was a great line up of Whitesnake! Steve Vai doesn't need to suck in his cheeks anyway. He's as skinny as....as.......as.......a skinny thing ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:45
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I really liked their early albums, especially 'Ready 'n Willing' The poodle era was a tragedy. That was the tail end of the 80's and most music in the mainstream was terrible at that point. Rock was represented to the masses by Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Europe. All sh!t IMO... ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:48
Couldn't agree less 1987 and Slip Of The Tongue are excellent albums. Def Leppeard are great too! All great IMO ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:52
I know it's a small picture, but Steve Vai looks like Alice Cooper's ugly brother! Incidentally, Vai admitted after leaving Whitesnake that he was only there to try to plug his own solo album... artistic integrity, eh? ------------- Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:56
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He was always know as the "Gun for hire" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 08:00
'and I want' 'and I know' 'animal' ooh, no please dont go there, snowy!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 08:03
Sorry, but Hysteria iis a classic album....Pyromania IS better though! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 08:09
Yes, Pyromania is a marginally better album, and I have the utmost respect for their drummer for overcoming the loss of his arm. But 'hard rock/metal' died in about 1984 IMO.. I've never liked thrash, with the exception of a few Metallica albums, so for me it was prog all the way therafter, and anything else outside the metal arena that took my fancy. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:18
I dont think Whitesnake was poodle rock at all. Poison, Motley Crue in the 80's, Ratt, Europe and some others I agree Poodle Rock indeed |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:23
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Cozy Powell solo? Yes! Over The Top is a great album, definitely with prog hallmarks. I love the title track! Only years later that I understood the pun. Great, with even Tschaikowsky's Overture 1812. How much more over the top can you get?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:29
Well add him to the Archives then! Seems like a lot of effort to me! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:32
Who, Tschaikowsky or Powell? I think the first one has more chance |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 11:41
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 02 2005 at 12:06
I couldn't agree more. I loved Whitesnake and I saw them live with Cozy at Donington in 1983 - absolutely great show!!! The poodle years, though, ruined it all for me, especially the awful Slip of the Tongue - where Vai was totally out of place. BTW, strange as it may seem, in a book I have on Prog Rock (The Progressive Rock Files by Jerry Lucky) Cozy is listed among the over 1000 prog acts at the end of the book. I own all three solo albums by him and they contain really great music, even though it may not be prog in the strictest sense. Anyway, if Queen and Asia are included, why not Cozy, whose solo work was definitely less commercial than theirs? |