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Topic: Plat Du Jour
Posted By: Rocktopus
Subject: Plat Du Jour
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 03:12
Plat Du Jour - St (1977)

Another one of these french threeandahalfstar (maybe even four) catchy/wacko/fun/funky/avant/zeuhlish/jazzrock-fusion oneoff-gems. No real info to be found, except for the lineup.

Inclusion should be a no-brainer because someone put out their full http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=354500741 - album out on myspace . Its obviously some kind of prog, just listen for yourself.

One of the worst albumcovers I've ever seen.



Vincent Denis:
guitar, vocals.
Rodolphe Moulin: bass, vocals.
Olivier Pédron: drums, percussion.
Alain Potier: sax, vocals.
Jacques Staub: keyboards, percussion.
+
Francois Ovide:
percussion (3).
Francois Maze: vocals (4).

Is Jazzrock-fusion the most fitting genre?

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 12:18
It's a very good one, and definitely worthy of inclusion.  I think that the JRF team should check it.

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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 12:29
Doubtlessly prog, but only "5 Autoroute" left any kind of positive impression on me. 


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 14:57
^Not very generous, as usual.

Rock N Speed is awsome, isn't it? They're obviously not important or anything like that, but I think they're great fun. 

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 15:15
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

^Not very generous, as usual.

Rock N Speed is awsome, isn't it? They're obviously not important or anything like that, but I think they're great fun. 


LOL I knew you'd say something like that.

They're good, but there's a reason you gave them 3.5 stars. If it helps, I really enjoyed '5 Autoroute'.




Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 15:50
It helps.

3.5 stars ain't too bad, though. Its ca. like the 1240 spot on my alltime hot 5000 albumlist. Right behind God Bless Tiny Tim but just ahead of  More of the Monkees. 

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 16:04
Very good band! Not my type of music, but still very good! I find it a mix of, as you said, Avant and Jazz-Rock.


Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 14:27
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

It helps.

3.5 stars ain't too bad, though. Its ca. like the 1240 spot on my alltime hot 5000 albumlist. Right behind God Bless Tiny Tim but just ahead of  More of the Monkees. 


Sure, 3.5 stars is good, and so is 1240 out of 5000. But I'm spoiled Tongue 4-5 star albums leave a good impression on me, 2-1 star albums leave a bad one. 3 star albums  leave next to no impression. They don't annoy, but they don't really excite either. They're 'competent' and 'correct', if you know what I mean.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 15:07
Some of my favorite pieces of music are on extremely uneven albums. You listen to avantgardejazz ,don't you? A three (and a half) star album can leave a strong impression on me.

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: January 20 2009 at 04:08
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Some of my favorite pieces of music are on extremely uneven albums. You listen to avantgardejazz ,don't you? A three (and a half) star album can leave a strong impression on me.


I should have clarified that I undertood a 3-star album as an album where all of the music is worth 3 stars, with no real standouts. I guess ECM is a good example of a label specialising in such 3-star stuff.  Tzadik too, at least to a certain extent.

Obviously you can have extremely uneven albums that average at  3 - 3.5 stars, but I wasn't talking about them. Such albums are definitely memorable. Plat Du Jour is largely a 3-star band with some 4-4.5 star moments, IMO.

Classic Gentle Giant is a good example of a bunch of albums that are uneven, but not extremely so.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 21 2009 at 05:30
^Of course. It would be strange (and silly) not to have an approach like that.

Sun Ra (who I love, and often play) is a five star artist with a three star discography, but he is mostly five or one star. While Jackie McLean's (who I respect, but never play) discography feels like more of a solid three. Never crap, never fantastic.

I'm glad we're keeping the thread on page one, until I know someone working here notices it. Thank you, and Cacho for bothering.

btw: I don't really have a top 5000 (thank God)

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 21 2009 at 17:38
I mentioned the suggestion to the JRF team soon after I posted before, and it is in discussion.

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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 22 2009 at 10:49
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Plat Du Jour - St (1977)

Another one of these french threeandahalfstar (maybe even four) catchy/wacko/fun/funky/avant/zeuhlish/jazzrock-fusion oneoff-gems. No real info to be found, except for the lineup.

Inclusion should be a no-brainer because someone put out their full http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=354500741 - album out on myspace . Its obviously some kind of prog, just listen for yourself.

One of the worst albumcovers I've ever seen.



Vincent Denis:
guitar, vocals.
Rodolphe Moulin: bass, vocals.
Olivier Pédron: drums, percussion.
Alain Potier: sax, vocals.
Jacques Staub: keyboards, percussion.
+
Francois Ovide:
percussion (3).
Francois Maze: vocals (4).

Is Jazzrock-fusion the most fitting genre?
 
Going through the various tunes on their MySpace page, I find myself agreeing with previous comments: tunes that are jazz rock and tunes that I would be hard-pressed to label such (but maybe even meeting my idea of French punk).  Again sitting on the fence: I'll go with what the majority think.


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:25
^I guess the alternatives are Jazzrock-fusion, RIO/Avant and maybe Eclectic?

I would quite certain have gone for the first option. The genre's quite inclusive with everything from Area and Herbie Hancock, to Skin Alley, Touton Macoute .


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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 25 2009 at 20:35
Avant is evaluating this band, we'll be able to give you an answer soon, I hope.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 26 2009 at 10:39
From what I've hear (myspace) Plat Du Jour has definitely some claims to JR/F but could almost claim Avant prog, but I think Eclectic is wiser than Avant

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as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 26 2009 at 10:49
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

From what I've hear (myspace) Plat Du Jour has definitely some claims to JR/F but could almost claim Avant prog, but I think Eclectic is wiser than Avant


I'm inclined to agree with you.  I'd added the band to ProgFreak about nine months ago, and have added it to the Eclectic chart now and voted yes. 


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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 26 2009 at 15:29
Oh, OK.  Well if you guys want them, go for it.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 15:35
Plat du Jour is cleared for Eclectic.  If you want to write the bio, Christer, I can add the band for you giving you full-credit for the addition.




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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 17:36
Great! I don't know anything else than the info I've already added here though, Logan.

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 21:10
When there isn't much info available, then I figure that a short bio, or at least description, is better than no bio.  The most important thing is that it gets in.  I love to add such musical descriptions as yours, "...catchy/wacko/fun/funky/avant/zeuhlish/jazzrock-fusion one-off gems."

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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 13:05
Ok. If it can look almost like my discription here, I'll do it. 

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 13:30
Sure.... Sometimes I like to pad them out with a mini-review and research the individual members.  I'm reminded that I very quickly prepared a bio before that would barely pass muster and have been meaning to update it.  ../artist.asp?id=4226 - ARMY OF BRIARS

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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 14:33
Should I just send a pm with the bio to you, when I'm finished then?

I quess you've added quite a few bands in your time here Logan, but I've only ever added one: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3099%20 - McLuhan. So naturally I had to give their album the Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music-rating (I do love it, btw). I wish someone other than myself will check them out some day. Someone should put their album out on myspace like Plat Du Jour.

That Army of Briars bio made actually me interested. Are they as good as their influences make it sound?





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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 15:22
Sure, a PM would be great.  I haven't written as many bios as I should have -- I'm really behind on them.
I'd love to check out McLuhan at some time; sounds great.  It's kind of hard to live up to those influences, but I really enjoy Army of Briars (very nice).  http://www.myspace.com/armyofbriars - http://www.myspace.com/armyofbriars I wish I had the album.

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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 08:19
Rocktopus, have you written anything or do you want us to handle the whole addition?

If you're still on this, remember to PM me or Logan when you have the bio.

Thanks.


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 09:05
Ops. I don't mind at all if any of you do it. Does anyone of you want to? Sorry.  

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 09:12
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Ops. I don't mind at all if any of you do it. Does anyone of you want to? Sorry.  


I can struggle with it, but only if you say pass.

Tracking some info about this band is nearly impossible, so it seems indeed.


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 05:53
Not knowing one single thing about them made it extremely uninspiring to start writing a bio. If its ok, maybe you can write those two or three neural sentences needed?


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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me



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