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Topic: Epignosis Debut Album Available
Posted By: Epignosis
Subject: Epignosis Debut Album Available
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:31

It's been a long time coming, with almost four years in the making.  While my "official" website is still under construction, I have decided to take up temporary residence on a free site to go ahead and let my music be heard.  My debut album, Still the Waters, is currently available here:

http://www.mymusicsite.com/MediaDetails/AlbumMediaList.aspx?albumid=2926 - http://www.mymusicsite.com/MediaDetails/AlbumMediaList.aspx?albumid=2926

Each song is available for purchase at $2.50 a piece, or you may purchase the entire album for $10.  You are able to sample the first thirty seconds or so of each song.

Please check out my tunes.  And if you buy the album, know that you'll be feeding a starving family.  Wink

Track Listing:*

1. Still the Waters (8:03)
2. A Pearl in a Field (7:59)
3. Move (9:56)
4. An Everlasting Kingdom (10:14)
5. No Shadow of Turning (19:48)

*Note that the songs on the webpage above are not in order, so please use this track listing as a guide for order


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:37
^glad you're releasing it, will listen to the samples.

BTW: Do you consider it Prog? If you do so, you might want to suggest it, don't you?


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:37
Downloading the entire album now.  Smile


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:52
Ouch mymusicsite isn't working for me - it won't load the album page - found Rob's artists page manually - it loads but that won't play the samples and can't click on the album to buy it. Sorry Rob - I tried.

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:54
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^glad you're releasing it, will listen to the samples.

BTW: Do you consider it Prog? If you do so, you might want to suggest it, don't you?


Woah!

Didn't recognize you there, Pablo!

And yes, I'll be submitting it for inclusion.


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:56
^ah, yeah, I'm now Mr. Lord. Sorry for not telling ya, haha.

Great! Where are you submitting for, Eclectic would be easier for inclusionWink


Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:57
Is it a way to get it in a CD form?

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:47
Originally posted by Diaby Diaby wrote:

Is it a way to get it in a CD form?


I would have to mail you a CD-R.  I want to have CDs professionally done, but as things are, I can't afford that right now.


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:50
And if you do listen, by all means, let me know what you think (good, bad, or ugly). Wink

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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 16:27
Damn. I guess I have to actually "donate" something for the advance copy now.Tongue

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 16:36
hmmm.. interesting...  checking this out..

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 16:45
and downloading... let's see what Robert could do ...

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 19:17
congratulations man!!

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 19:33
I've heard this album 13 times now, and it's definitely a grower and a very accomplished piece of Symphonic modern prog.

Once you get added, I'll show you just how amazing it is through a review. Wink


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 19:58
I'm about to pay for it and download. The previews blew me away from the getgo, so I know the full result will floor me completely.


Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:02
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

I'm about to pay for it and download. The previews blew me away from the getgo, so I know the full result will floor me completely.


It's really good, trust me. Clap


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:15
downloaded it earlier... time to check this out.




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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:16
Jesus Christ, just the first song handed my ass back to me. O_O!
 
I'm very impressed, bro.
 
You just had to release this now that I'm getting MY musical project underway. Talk about a hard act to follow. *gulp!* Wink


Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:24
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Damn. I guess I have to actually "donate" something for the advance copy now.Tongue


I would, but I hardly have any money. Tongue


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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:25
Listened to the samples and now downloaded the album.




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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:28
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Jesus Christ, just the first song handed my ass back to me. O_O!
 
I'm very impressed, bro.
 
You just had to release this now that I'm getting MY musical project underway. Talk about a hard act to follow. *gulp!* Wink


Noticed you had a page on the same website, and so I visited your myspace and listened to that demo you have there.

I have to say, the feeling is mutual. 
I couldn't help but focus on that great acoustic guitar (and my wife loved the drums, for what that's worth).


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:30
Robert, my first impressions are 100% positive.  Your songwriting is outstanding.  Anymore this particular style of prog isn't quite my cup of tea, but I can't see a lot of others around here not loving this.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 22:59
Thanks everybody- for the listens, for the comments, and for the support.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 07:57
Robert... not my style ... not enough caterwauling Italian for my personal tastes hahhaha. Wink But very...very good.  No idea we had such a talent among us.... Clap  You'll be a FINE addition to the archives.

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 09:33
Robert, do you play all the instruments on the record?


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 09:54
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Robert, do you play all the instruments on the record?


Every one of them (except my wife's voice on AEK) and except the drums.

That's BFD software.Disapprove

Iz not a drumer.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 09:56
maybe on your next album you might enlist some Rickenbacker bass.... nothing puts the snap, crackle and pop into prog like an overdriven Rick LOL

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:01
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

maybe on your next album you might enlist some Rickenbacker bass.... nothing puts the snap, crackle and pop into prog like an overdriven Rick LOL


If I had 3k, I'd splurge on a Parker Fly guitar.  And if I had 3k more, I'd get a 4001.  Wink

In the meantime, you can loan me yours.  Tongue

I did attempt to create my own version of that sound, particularly on the longest track.  That's actually a Geddy Lee Fender Jazz bass run through a guitar processor (that features bass amp/cab modeling).


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:06
I'm finishing this up now - Robert, I can't stress enough how impressed I am with this.  Just very, very well done.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:06
I had wondered about that track...  like I said Robert...  was really impressed. Clap   How long did you work on that (apologizes if you said it somewhere and missed it)

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:08
^1461 days Geek


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:09
whoa... that IS a labor of love.

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:13
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^1461 days Geek


Shocked

Part of that, to be fair, was me dragging my ass.  But I wrote so many things that did not wind up on this album.  The whole project evolved very slowly, but I'm pleased with the final result.

Would you believe the title track began with me dabbling in writing techno music?  LOL






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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 14:12
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Jesus Christ, just the first song handed my ass back to me. O_O!
 
I'm very impressed, bro.
 
You just had to release this now that I'm getting MY musical project underway. Talk about a hard act to follow. *gulp!* Wink


Noticed you had a page on the same website, and so I visited your myspace and listened to that demo you have there.

I have to say, the feeling is mutual. 
I couldn't help but focus on that great acoustic guitar (and my wife loved the drums, for what that's worth).
 
Wow. Really? Embarrassed That means a lot coming from you, man. I can only hope that my project will evolve into something worthy of your praise.
 
P.S. I just got through listening to the whole thing, and I must say, it is quite fantastic! I really enjoyed how the songs flowed, and I was never bored. Very good songwriting, my friend. And yes, I could hear a Squire-ish type of trebly bass sound here and there. Really cool! Clap
 
So, when is your album getting added to the 'chives, then? I need to review it now!


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 14:32
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Jesus Christ, just the first song handed my ass back to me. O_O!
 
I'm very impressed, bro.
 
You just had to release this now that I'm getting MY musical project underway. Talk about a hard act to follow. *gulp!* Wink


Noticed you had a page on the same website, and so I visited your myspace and listened to that demo you have there.

I have to say, the feeling is mutual. 
I couldn't help but focus on that great acoustic guitar (and my wife loved the drums, for what that's worth).
 
Wow. Really? Embarrassed That means a lot coming from you, man. I can only hope that my project will evolve into something worthy of your praise.
 
P.S. I just got through listening to the whole thing, and I must say, it is quite fantastic! I really enjoyed how the songs flowed, and I was never bored. Very good songwriting, my friend. And yes, I could hear a Squire-ish type of trebly bass sound here and there. Really cool! Clap
 
So, when is your album getting added to the 'chives, then? I need to review it now!


Thanks, Micah.  I really appreciate your gracious comments.  I also look forward to hearing what you're working on.

I handed off the tracks to Ivan for his team to evaluate, and if they say no, maybe I can get it put in eclectic.






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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 14:41
^that's what I said earlierStern Smile


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 14:47
LOL, shifty eyes.
 
 


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 15:05
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^that's what I said earlierStern Smile


I know.  But I wanted to funny too!  Wink


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 15:09
^And it worked, because I laughed!


Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 17:32
If only I had money to listen to it...I might be getting a job soon, so it may come to pass. Hopefully.


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 17:34
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^that's what I said earlierStern Smile


I know.  But I wanted to funny too!  Wink


LOLOk, seems ingenious for me...



Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 19:38
The music is amazing. I absolutely love it. I am probably going to be listening to this for a while! I can't believe you did this on your own! I wish I could do that, and make up such cool riffs and wow.

I'll need another listen to catch the lyrics.

ClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClap


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 10:41
ClapClapClapClapClap Excellent album Robert!!! You're a great composer and player! Unbelievable really.

My fave track is A Pearl In a Field, the climax in there is simply outstanding, LOVE it.
And my fave guitar solo is in An Everlasting Kingdom, simply beautiful.

Those 4 years of hard work, have finally made justice my friend!Thumbs Up


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 12:14
Agreed. Truly an achievement.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 12:19
Thanks guys.  EmbarrassedSmile

I'm genuinely glad you enjoy the music- it pleases me to no end.  I actually have about five other albums "in the works," mostly just from songs I've started over the years.  If it's not too ambitious, I'd like to put out two a year (but we'll just see how that goes LOL).


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 13:03
^Awesome! Can't wait to hear them!
 
I hope this doesn't sound too pushy, but honestly this music is so good, I could see your putting a live band together and taking this music on the road! Have you tried to get your music professionally distributed? Even an indie label would be a good idea. I'm sure they would sign you up, man.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 13:10
Either that, or seriously look into CDBaby Rob - looks like you can get some excellent distribution that way.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 13:13
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

^Awesome! Can't wait to hear them!
 
I hope this doesn't sound too pushy, but honestly this music is so good, I could see your putting a live band together and taking this music on the road! Have you tried to get your music professionally distributed? Even an indie label would be a good idea. I'm sure they would sign you up, man.


Thoughts of taking this to the stage has crossed my mind, sure.  The trouble (at least where I am living) is finding people who would be willing and committed to playing my music.  It's hard enough keeping together a weekend, bar-based cover band here...I know- I've dealt with people so flaky they should work for Kellogg's (okay, bad joke).

As of right now, I'm just enjoying things as they are.  If a label picks me up down the road, I'll evaluate the situation then.  As for now, I'm just happy to have this music out there.

But I sure could use a mansion and a private jet.  Cool


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 13:16
^and you could come to Argentina Tongue


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 13:25
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^and you could come to Argentina Tongue


Honestly, I've always wanted to go there.  Not sure why- maybe it's the thought of being much closer to the south pole.

I've never been on an airplane, by the way.  Embarrassed


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 13:29
^well, if you ever come, I should take serious note of what Ivan (Melgar) told you when they stoled him, here it's the same Thumbs DownTongue






Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 15:20
Do you use a 5 string bass on one of the songs? I think one of the notes is too deep for a 4 string bass.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 15:26
Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Do you use a 5 string bass on one of the songs? I think one of the notes is too deep for a 4 string bass.


Perceptive ears, my friend (and my guess is you are talking about the long bass note in "A Pearl in a Field" just before the guitar theme???).

I used a Spector 5-string bass on the first two songs.  The other three feature the Fender Geddy Lee jazz bass.

A complete list of my equipment can be seen here:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55539&PID=3143926#3143926 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55539&PID=3143926#3143926


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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 28 2009 at 15:43
I don't remember what song I was thinking of, but it has a short repetition of E then B. At least thats what I think the notes are. 


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 04 2009 at 15:18
Hello all:

I've just procured a site on Myspace in order to facilitate more substantial previews of my music.  Samples between 1.5 and 3 minutes for each song are available here:

http://www.myspace.com/epignosismusic - http://www.myspace.com/epignosismusic

If you are still curious about what Epignosis sounds like, please listen to those samples.  And if you have a Myspace, feel free to go ahead and befriend me.  Smile

To purchase the album, go here:

http://www.mymusicsite.com/MediaDetails/AlbumMediaList.aspx?albumid=2926 - http://www.mymusicsite.com/MediaDetails/AlbumMediaList.aspx?albumid=2926





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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 04 2009 at 20:58
Buy some beer on me, but make sure that you feed your starving family first.

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 07:25
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Buy some beer on me, but make sure that you feed your starving family first.


Thanks Scott!  I hope you like what you hear.

And no beer- it's going to be diapers this week.  WinkLOL


(oh, but not for me Confused)


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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:13
Nice man, I'm considering buying this

Warn me though first, what sorta music is it? LIke, describe it in 5 words or something like that...

And don't say prog. Cos' that's obvious


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:18
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Nice man, I'm considering buying this

Warn me though first, what sorta music is it? LIke, describe it in 5 words or something like that...

And don't say prog. Cos' that's obvious


Five words is a challenge!

I use a lot of acoustic guitar, organ, and Mellotron.  Clean male vocals.  It's a good bit like Spock's Beard's V or Echolyn's Mei, if I had to compare it.


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:22
By the way, if you haven't done so, you can click the link in my signature and listen to several minutes worth of previews.

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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: April 02 2009 at 10:22
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Finally!  Some criticism!

Wink

I am no sound engineer- never pretended to be one, and I don't have the means to get someone else to do it.  Even my "studio" (laughable term, that) was a work in progress at the same time this album was a work in progress- I was acquiring software, instruments, and the like as the music was being written and recorded.

That said, it was a decision I made to release the album (it has been over three years).  I couldn't sit on it anymore.

And to be honest with you, I never much cared for the "squeaky clean" production sound a lot of modern bands have (The Flower Kings come to mind).  Forgive me, but I like a little grit and a few "anomalies," for lack of a better term.

My reasoning also (and thank you for mentioning this, Pablo) was that if people praise Nursery Cryme, for instance (which is just awful from a production standpoint I think), then I'm okay with the product I made- it seems more people are interested in the compositional and execution aspects of an album more than they are the production (even though, as Harry mentioned, a bad production can mar great music).  I made sure there was no clipping and I brought each recorded file to the level where I felt it should be, but as I said, I'm no sound engineer; I'm sure there are thousands of people who could do a far superior job.  But it was my "baby," as it were, and I'm pleased as punch about it. Smile

Bottom line is, it was a conscious decision on my part to make the album available without tinkering around or paying someone else to do it.  I've made my peace with that (never was at war with it, truth be told).


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: April 02 2009 at 11:14
Well indeed, composition is always the first and foremost.
If it ain't good music of course people wont listen and I'm no exception.
But there is a difference to me at least, between a production with grit that can add feeling to the overall thing(as a fan of stoner/sludge metal, believe me I like some grit in my sound if the genre calls for it) and a production that leaves the impression of an amateurish production which you don't want to do.
As much as I hate to say it, you're album falls into the latter category.
If I were to review your album, the production job itself would be enough for me to rate it a star lower than it otherwise could have been if the production were tighter.
Some of the levels in the mix made me cringe at times.
Sure, lead guitar parts can be boosted a bit in the mix, but some of the lead stuff was just overwhelming the rest of the tracks in the mix.
And given this album isn't meant to be a guitar solo orientated thing, I'm sure that's not what you would be aiming for.

Do you do much EQ-ing on the guitar tracks after you record them? Post EQ is important, but with Line 6 PODs, post EQ is absolutely necessary. The high end isn't too fizzy as I can hear (high end fizz is a common problem in PODs), so I imagine you did some post EQ-ing.
Backing off the mids in Post-EQ may have helped the lead guitars to sit in the mix better.
You may be happy with the tone though, so at least, back off the volume on the lead guitar track a tadto help them sit a bit tighter in the mix

I think had you spent 2-4 weeks on internet forums, posting clips and asking for opinions, it would have made a drastic difference. Still not professional (I mean, hey, I'm so sound engineer either and couldn't afford to pay one) but it would have sounded that bit closer to a good production.
Parts that seem they should be more subtle having too much power and parts that are meant to be more powerful come across as weaker, due to the weak mix and mastering job.
When a production has the ability to add power or subtlety to something and isn't done correctly, it really robs the music of some dynamics.
And this is where people are wrong when they say that production can't affect how good the music is.
That really is just plain wrong.
Think about it folks.........dynamics is one of the fundamental elements of music.
I, and so many other musicians (and I'd imagine sound engineers) dimiss anyone that tells me that the production can't affect the end result, but it does.
Show people 2 differnet mixes/mastering jobs, of the same song.
Show them the first one, which is poorly done and overblows subtle bits out of proportion and makes the powerful bits underwhelming. Add to this, the mix of tracks is bad, so instruments are not fitting into the mix well and things sound pretty washed out.
They'll like it if the compositions are good, sure.
Then show them a mix that allows the music to come to life with better dynamics and none of that washed out sound.
Instantly, they will start having more positive reactions to the music, not purely because of the mixing/mastering, but because now the music has become more powerful and forceful with the added dynamics, which is an element of music. People are hearing the music and not the production per se, but as a direct and indirect result of better production, the music itself sounds better. Sorry if that didn't come across as totally clear (my lack of English skills coming into play......don't be hard on me forumites, I dropped out of high school, haha), but you get what I mean now?

As for grit, I think that certain styles of music need gritty production.
I'm talking about sludge metal, stoner metal and stuff like that, reallly 'dirty and down' kinda music.
Your music doesn't strike me as music that benefits from grit, it's very 'clean' music and an appropriate production would be well suited to that I think.

I will put this serious suggestion forward:
Give yourself a month, post up clips on various sites, even just the PA Musicians Exchange section if the idea of signing up to other sites ain't your thing (but ideally you want to be going to sites with forum boards dedicated to musicians, as I do regularly) , of clips of your stuff and ask how it can be improved production wise.
After that month, offer people a remixed and remastered versions of the album that has resulted from the opinions of the brains of knowledgeable forum board members .
You'll be surprised beyond what you can imagine how much positive reaction you get.
People are gonna start commenting on how now it breathes better and it's more alive.
And even if they don't understand the process behind mixing and mastering, that wont matter, because the music will improve overall because I feel it will put the dynamics back in the mix that your current production job is robbing.
Listen to those old production jobs versus the newer ones and it will blow your mind, not just everyone else's.

Despite it not being the kind of music I'm into these days, your album has a lot of potential.
You're a good song writer, a great guitarist who really knows how to play and your compositions are very nice and fairly detailed.
The production robs of it more potential than you realize.




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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 02 2009 at 11:36
I appreciate your thoughtful response.

I think I concede the recommendation that someone else do the mixing and mastering because I've heard my stuff so much in the course of recording it (I'm about sick of it, really LOL) that it sounds "right" to me.  Even if I fully understood the ins and outs of audio production, I would still rather someone else do the job.

Which costs around $500 really (based on estimates I obtained from last year).  Perhaps I'll have the money for that for the next project, but as it is, I'm personally happy with what I did.  Honest.  I know many others are also, and I also know I can't please everyone.  That's one of the reasons I made sure to post fairly lengthy samples so that people can get a good picture of the overall sound and judge it for themselves.

To be honest with you, though, I don't know too many people that are as mindful of  production.  I know I'm not one of them (Vapor Trails is my favorite Rush album, for example- and its production is horrible).

But thanks for the tips.  I'll probably copy and paste what you said so I can reference it, if that's okay.


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: April 02 2009 at 19:09
Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 02 2009 at 19:14
Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


Cheap.  Got em at Wal-Mart I think.

By the way, I listened to my music again today in the car, and honestly, I like how it sounds.  I really do.  Smile


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 02 2009 at 19:42
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


Cheap.  Got em at Wal-Mart I think.

By the way, I listened to my music again today in the car, and honestly, I like how it sounds.  I really do.  Smile
It has to sound good in the real-world - in the car, through iPlod ear-buds and on the cheapest, crappiest hi-fi money can buy and not just through professional headphones or studio monitors. One of the major studios in the 60s use to have a little 4" mono speaker as one of their studio monitors so they could hear what the track would sound like played through a typical transistor radio.


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:01
Any news about Epignosis' inclusion?


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:01
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


By the way, I listened to my music again today in the car, and honestly, I like how it sounds.  I really do.  Smile
 
Good! I'm not the only one who listens to his own music! I thought I was super vain, or something, LOL


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:12
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


By the way, I listened to my music again today in the car, and honestly, I like how it sounds.  I really do.  Smile
 
Good! I'm not the only one who listens to his own music! I thought I was super vain, or something, LOL


Not vain.  I could care less if I ever heard that album again. Dead  I listened to it again to consider Harry's criticisms.

After thousands of listens (in part or in full), I can say I'm burned out on hearing my first album. LOL


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:13
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


By the way, I listened to my music again today in the car, and honestly, I like how it sounds.  I really do.  Smile
 
Good! I'm not the only one who listens to his own music! I thought I was super vain, or something, LOL
Of course you only do it to so you can notice all the things you could improve on Wink (Ermm  http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/charts - http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/charts  Embarrassed

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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:15
It's worse for me, man. Trust me. I only have one full song recorded at this point, and after listening to it multiple times trying to hear anomylies and/or mistakes, I am about to go insane. If I hear that crappy, squeely guitar solo again . . . ! Tongue


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:19
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

It's worse for me, man. Trust me. I only have one full song recorded at this point, and after listening to it multiple times trying to hear anomylies and/or mistakes, I am about to go insane. If I hear that crappy, squeely guitar solo again . . . ! Tongue


See, that's what I was talking about in an earlier post.  Sometimes those "anomalies" are treasures, and those "mistakes" are right as rain.

Most of my favorite bits of my work happened quite by accident, and I believe over-analyzing everything would ruin any hope of my music having a more "organic" sound.


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:21
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


By the way, I listened to my music again today in the car, and honestly, I like how it sounds.  I really do.  Smile
 
Good! I'm not the only one who listens to his own music! I thought I was super vain, or something, LOL
Of course you only do it to so you can notice all the things you could improve on Wink (Ermm  http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/charts - http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/charts  Embarrassed


#5, huh?  Somebody's a fanboy! Wink


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:24
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Sure man, no problems.
BTW, what brand of studio monitors were you using out of interest?


By the way, I listened to my music again today in the car, and honestly, I like how it sounds.  I really do.  Smile
 
Good! I'm not the only one who listens to his own music! I thought I was super vain, or something, LOL

Of course you only do it to so you can notice all the things you could improve on Wink (Ermm  http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/charts - http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/charts  Embarrassed



#5, huh?  Somebody's a fanboy! Wink

Almost - I've recorded over 250 tracks - so even I can't listen to half my stuff LOL



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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:51

Your musical compatibility with darqdean is High

Music you have in common includes http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/library/music/Gong - Gong , http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/library/music/Mahavishnu+Orchestra - Mahavishnu Orchestra , http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/library/music/Opeth - Opeth , http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/library/music/Rush - Rush and http://www.last.fm/user/darqdean/library/music/Porcupine+Tree - Porcupine Tree .


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 10 2009 at 16:04
Yay- I'm in the celebrated halls of my beloved favorite website. Smile

I just wanted to point out that there's a free streaming mp3 here available for anyone to listen to it ("No Shadow of Turning," the longest song on the album), so if you haven't heard me and you are curious, please, go and hear:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4642 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4642

Again, here is the link to purchase and download the album:

http://www.mymusicsite.com/MediaDetails/AlbumMediaList.aspx?albumid=2926 - http://www.mymusicsite.com/MediaDetails/AlbumMediaList.aspx?albumid=2926

Thank you everyone for your support. 





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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: July 10 2009 at 16:30
Studio Monitors are absolutely not the kind of speakers you want to listen to music to for pleasure....they're so you can mix something and have it work on a home stereo, in the car, etc. There are so many times I've mixed something to where it sounds great in the headphones and take it to the car and it sounds like blech. Especially if you use stereo field alot.
 
Congrats on inclusion Mr. Epignosis. The sampled track certainly shows a degree of mastery of symphonic prog sound that's beyond my songwriting ability. I've been meaning to get the whole album, and I'll lend a review once i've given the time the music deserves.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: July 10 2009 at 16:45
Alright Robert- I loved the samples. I'm going to download the album soon.Thumbs Up

btw, I see you now have an artist page on PA. Once I download it I'll write a review (you should write one tooTongue).


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 10 2009 at 22:17
Yeah, the album is great. I'm glad Robert finally got included. It was looooooong overdue. Smile


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 10:21
Robert,

I got your album last night, and WOW! I am blown away!

I listened to it twice last night, and twice this morning.

My favorite song is probably An Everlasting Kingdom or No Shadow Turning, but the whole album is really good! It's definitely getting a 4 or 5 star review from me. Great job!Thumbs Up

-Jeff


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 11:23
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Robert,

I got your album last night, and WOW! I am blown away!

I listened to it twice last night, and twice this morning.

My favorite song is probably An Everlasting Kingdom or No Shadow Turning, but the whole album is really good! It's definitely getting a 4 or 5 star review from me. Great job!Thumbs Up

-Jeff


Thanks man- I'm very pleased you like it.  Smile

I guess I should say that one thing I'm really happy about is how there is no "clear winner" in terms of tracks (okay, some will say, "there is no clear winner period" LOL and that's cool), but I think it's neat how different people like different tracks rather than most folks saying they favor one particular song. Smile


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 12:25
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Robert,

I got your album last night, and WOW! I am blown away!

I listened to it twice last night, and twice this morning.

My favorite song is probably An Everlasting Kingdom or No Shadow Turning, but the whole album is really good! It's definitely getting a 4 or 5 star review from me. Great job!Thumbs Up

-Jeff


Thanks man- I'm very pleased you like it.  Smile

I guess I should say that one thing I'm really happy about is how there is no "clear winner" in terms of tracks (okay, some will say, "there is no clear winner period" LOL and that's cool), but I think it's neat how different people like different tracks rather than most folks saying they favor one particular song. Smile


I listened to it again. This time my favorite is MoveTongue

I've got a feeling this will be one of those albums where every time I listen to it I'll have a different favorite. But seriously, this is a great album. I'm going to rate it on ProgFreak right now, so we'll see where it ends up in my favorite 2009 albums.Thumbs Up


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 12:30
Here's my list of my favorite 2009 albums (yours is #3 by the way):

http://progfreak.com/go/user/progrocker2244?path=charts&chart.year=2009 - http://progfreak.com/go/user/progrocker2244?path=charts&chart.year=2009


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 12:45
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Robert,

I got your album last night, and WOW! I am blown away!

I listened to it twice last night, and twice this morning.

My favorite song is probably An Everlasting Kingdom or No Shadow Turning, but the whole album is really good! It's definitely getting a 4 or 5 star review from me. Great job!Thumbs Up

-Jeff


Thanks man- I'm very pleased you like it.  Smile

I guess I should say that one thing I'm really happy about is how there is no "clear winner" in terms of tracks (okay, some will say, "there is no clear winner period" LOL and that's cool), but I think it's neat how different people like different tracks rather than most folks saying they favor one particular song. Smile


I listened to it again. This time my favorite is MoveTongue

I've got a feeling this will be one of those albums where every time I listen to it I'll have a different favorite. But seriously, this is a great album. I'm going to rate it on ProgFreak right now, so we'll see where it ends up in my favorite 2009 albums.Thumbs Up


I think "Move" tends to be people's least favorite.  In any event, people really surprise me when they tell me their favorite track...it always goes to show I don't know folks' taste here as well as I think!


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 16:31
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Robert,

I got your album last night, and WOW! I am blown away!

I listened to it twice last night, and twice this morning.

My favorite song is probably An Everlasting Kingdom or No Shadow Turning, but the whole album is really good! It's definitely getting a 4 or 5 star review from me. Great job!Thumbs Up

-Jeff


Thanks man- I'm very pleased you like it.  Smile

I guess I should say that one thing I'm really happy about is how there is no "clear winner" in terms of tracks (okay, some will say, "there is no clear winner period" LOL and that's cool), but I think it's neat how different people like different tracks rather than most folks saying they favor one particular song. Smile


I listened to it again. This time my favorite is MoveTongue

I've got a feeling this will be one of those albums where every time I listen to it I'll have a different favorite. But seriously, this is a great album. I'm going to rate it on ProgFreak right now, so we'll see where it ends up in my favorite 2009 albums.Thumbs Up


I think "Move" tends to be people's least favorite.  In any event, people really surprise me when they tell me their favorite track...it always goes to show I don't know folks' taste here as well as I think!


Dammit! I'm Addicted! I listened to it again, and I really like the backing vocals on An Everlasting Kingdom. It really adds a second layer to the music.


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 16:40
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Robert,

I got your album last night, and WOW! I am blown away!

I listened to it twice last night, and twice this morning.

My favorite song is probably An Everlasting Kingdom or No Shadow Turning, but the whole album is really good! It's definitely getting a 4 or 5 star review from me. Great job!Thumbs Up

-Jeff


Thanks man- I'm very pleased you like it.  Smile

I guess I should say that one thing I'm really happy about is how there is no "clear winner" in terms of tracks (okay, some will say, "there is no clear winner period" LOL and that's cool), but I think it's neat how different people like different tracks rather than most folks saying they favor one particular song. Smile


I listened to it again. This time my favorite is MoveTongue

I've got a feeling this will be one of those albums where every time I listen to it I'll have a different favorite. But seriously, this is a great album. I'm going to rate it on ProgFreak right now, so we'll see where it ends up in my favorite 2009 albums.Thumbs Up


I think "Move" tends to be people's least favorite.  In any event, people really surprise me when they tell me their favorite track...it always goes to show I don't know folks' taste here as well as I think!


Dammit! I'm Addicted! I listened to it again, and I really like the backing vocals on An Everlasting Kingdom. It really adds a second layer to the music.


My wife will be singing lead on the next one, I can assure you.  Embarrassed


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 21:12
^^ Don't worry Robert- you did one hell of a job on Still the Waters!Thumbs Up

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Posted By: AstralliS
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 17:15
Prog Sphere's special collaborator Jorge has contributed this interview with ProgArchives legend Epignosis. E-Pig (as he is amusingly called), is the only PA reviewer that I know of that has also created his own prog music. There may be more, but I am not aware of them. Anyway, Robert was kind enough to agree to this interview. So enjoy! Click http://prog-sphere.blogspot.com/2010/05/epignosis-progarchives-reviewer.html - HERE to get the interview.

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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 17:41
Clap That's a great interview... interesting to read thoughts about the Epignosis reviews here at PA. Glad that the second album will be in cd format... and I'll check-out Pictorial Wand at the very least. Nice one!  


Posted By: AstralliS
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 17:48
Thanks, glad you liked it :) More to come.

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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 17:56
If you're going to be posting more interviews, there is an interview section within the forums. You probably know that already, but I just thought I'd mention it in case you don't. Thumbs Up


Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 17:58
Originally posted by AstralliS AstralliS wrote:

Prog Sphere's special collaborator Jorge has contributed this interview with ProgArchives legend Epignosis. E-Pig (as he is amusingly called), is the only PA reviewer that I know of that has also created his own prog music. There may be more, but I am not aware of them. Anyway, Robert was kind enough to agree to this interview. So enjoy! Click http://prog-sphere.blogspot.com/2010/05/epignosis-progarchives-reviewer.html - HERE to get the interview.
Great interview.Clap


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 17:59
Cheers Robert!  Nice to read about you!  Clap

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:02
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Cheers Robert!  Nice to read about you!  Clap


None of my music has ever made my pinballs feel the way Keith Moon's did though.  Wink LOL

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Posted By: AstralliS
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:02
Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

If you're going to be posting more interviews, there is an interview section within the forums. You probably know that already, but I just thought I'd mention it in case you don't. Thumbs Up


Thanks for knowing me that, but that Interview section is only for the interviews which are exclusive for PA. I already managed to do that, but I was told to not do it again LOL So, I guess this is the safe way for all.

Thanks for support, guys Clap


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:04
Nice interview, although I don't see people call you E-Pig as often as Robignosis. LOL


Posted By: AstralliS
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:04
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Cheers Robert!  Nice to read about you!  Clap


None of my music has ever made my pinballs feel the way Keith Moon's did though.  Wink LOL

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Thanks Prog Sphere.  It was a pleasure to answer your questions.  Thumbs Up


Thank you, great job we've got with this one Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:08
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Nice interview, although I don't see people call you E-Pig as often as Robignosis. LOL


I actually do venture out into other places on the web.  Wink


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 29 2010 at 18:14
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Nice interview, although I don't see people call you E-Pig as often as Robignosis. LOL


I actually do venture out into other places on the web.  Wink

Well, I suppose that is obvious. EmbarrassedLOL I guess it just differentiates you from the other Robs here.

Also, in case you missed it:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

So, how about them Echolyn?

I've not heard any.



Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 30 2010 at 00:23
That is a ver nice interview!!

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