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Vanilla Fudge or Iron Butterfly?

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Topic: Vanilla Fudge or Iron Butterfly?
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Subject: Vanilla Fudge or Iron Butterfly?
Date Posted: April 13 2009 at 17:24
Vanilla Fudge and Iron Butterfly... Two bands from USA that in PA are listed as Proto-Prog but that for me are two great example of Psychedelic Heavy Prog.
 
But Prog or Proto-Prog... Which of these two bands is your favorite?


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: April 13 2009 at 17:37
both were awesome,  I've heard more VF though.


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: April 13 2009 at 22:06
Bogert and Appice ruled with the Fudge. Never liked Butterfly , sorry.

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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: April 13 2009 at 22:40
I go for the Iron Butterfly, which surely never soared very high.
 
But VF was mostly about long, overwrought covers, whereas the Butterfly had some almost excellent originals (In The Time of Our Lives comes to mind).


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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 00:47
Give me the Butterfly any day.  Vanilla Fudge just doesn't do that much for me, comparatively.

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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 07:30
Vanilla Fudge for me. Members of my fav bands, Uriah Heep and Deep Purple, recalled Fudge was a big influence for them.

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 13:23
I went with both. Each found a niche in it's time. 


Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 17:28
Both are great . That´s my vote

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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 17:48

Big fan of Renaissance by Vanilla Fudge.  It beats out anything by I-ron Butterfly, even if they did have a classic Simpsons moment.



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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:22
My love of Captain Beyond pointed me towards Butterfly, but what the heck, I went for both.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:49
You've never lived until you've had iron fudge with a vanilla butterfly in it. Tongue

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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:59
^
 
Tongue


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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 11:24
Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

My love of Captain Beyond pointed me towards Butterfly, but what the heck, I went for both.
Love of Captain Beyond will never steer you wrong!

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 11:30
VF all the way
 
I only like IB's debut album and Metamorphosis as well, but it doesb't come close to Renaissance and Near The Beginning


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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 11:55
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

My love of Captain Beyond pointed me towards Butterfly, but what the heck, I went for both.
Love of Captain Beyond will never steer you wrong!
 
Unless you're Dancing Madly Backwards, of course...Thumbs Up


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 15:07
Hi,
 
IB was way more important than VF ever was ...
 
IB also was one of the very first things to help start/inaugurate FM radio in those days, when it was known for "long cuts", a lot of which became the very fabric of the progressive stuff that we love so much.
 
VF was more of a party band and noise by comparison. And they were not worth it in concert. You should have saved your money and gone to see Spirit or even It's a Beautiful Day.
 
VF had songs. IB had music!


Posted By: Leftoverture
Date Posted: May 17 2009 at 22:13
I like both, but if push came to shove, it'd be Iron Butterfly


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 01:54
Vanilla Fudge have an overall better catalogue such as Beatles covers and You Keep me Hangin On. However Iron Butterfly's In a Gadda Da Vida is simply legendary so I am not sure - at a stab I say Vanilla Fudge... only just.

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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 01:58
Couldn't get into either despite my best efforts.

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 11:31
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

You've never lived until you've had iron fudge with a vanilla butterfly in it. Tongue


Doesn't Iron fudge weigh heavy on ones stomach?


Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 11:48
Vanilla Fudge.... fairly easy poll

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Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 11:57
Both are great! 

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 15:26
Both are very good, but I've got to go with the Butterfly here.

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Posted By: Canprog
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 18:35
Both are great thats were my vote went!


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 16:00
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Bogert and Appice ruled with the Fudge. Never liked Butterfly , sorry.
 
Same for me.
Vanilla fudge were way ahead of their time on their first two releases, really stunning material. Iron butterfly really pale compared to them.


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Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 09:26
Fudge (easily), although IB did release some good stuff.

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Posted By: Sangria
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 11:29
Butterfly

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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 12:10
Like both bands, but IMO Vanilla Fudge has accomplished more overall. In A Gadda Da Vida is huge, but the rest of Iron Butterfly catalogue is not so good as Vanilla Fudge catalogue.


Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 09:23
Both,Vanilla Fudge for Tim Bogert and Carmine Appice,Iron Butterfly for In A Gadda Da Vida!

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Posted By: 1967/ 1976
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 09:39
Both. Simply because both bands please me without specific merits!

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Posted By: luger7
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 15:37
In a Gadda Da Vida , baby¡ who can compete against that? Iron Butterfly is proto-heavy metal, dude!

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