Pendragon poll: Pure vs. Believe
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Topic: Pendragon poll: Pure vs. Believe
Posted By: stonebeard
Subject: Pendragon poll: Pure vs. Believe
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 18:27
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After trying and trying, I just can't think Pure is as good as an album as Believe. No song on Pure is bad, but some do not really stick out to me. In particular, the "Comatose Suite" and "It's Only Me" are lackluster compared to their counterparts ("The Wishing Well" and "The Edge of the World"). I will say that "The Freak Show" is probably the best poppy Pendragon song, and it get's played a lot believe me. In truth, I'm rather staggered at the divide between Believe and Pure on PA>>>  3.50 | 79 ratings ../album.asp?id=8451 - Believe 2005 4.15 | 121 ratings ../album.asp?id=19251 - Pure 2008 Pure has a little shy of 2x the ratings Believe does and quite a lot higher rating. All that goes through my mind is...  Et tu? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
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Posted By: Magic Mountain
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 18:35
| I like both albums, but the heavyness of Pure slightly more. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 18:52
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Pure by a mile. E ------------- 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 19:14
| Believe by a mile |
Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 00:59
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This is a mean one ! I dislike both in a way. Both albums give me a melancholic feeling thinking about the time the band was really great (nineties). But if I have to choose: Pure and that's because of the opening and the closing track. Besides that this album is more consistent than Believe.
The only song I like (and then I mean REALLY like) is Edge of the World, by far the most moving song Pendragon has ever made (although the guitar solo on Breaking the Spell gives me the shivers down the spine as well). So the best song on both albums is Edge of the World, the only department where Believe wins the battle. ------------- A day without prog is a wasted day |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 02:04
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I Believe it's Pure. Ohh dear me excuse the pun:P ------------- 
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Posted By: SLFTB1
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 02:56
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Pure by a very long mile, to me the songs are stronger anf the guitar work is fantastic.
Then by adding Scott's drumming which is fantastic its a clear winner
Its not that I dislike Believe but it is a transitional album and anything that came straight after NOTW would have a hard time.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 02:59
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And I think Not of this World is way too dense. Believe was just right, but I agree the Middle Eastern theme couldn't have been continued. I like the stylistic turn they did with Pure, but I think a lot of the songs aren't up to par.
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Posted By: sarahc
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 03:46
These are my two favourite Pendragon albums - very different in style, but both superb. 
My vote goes to Pure for sheer quality AND consistency. For me, Believe has one slightly weaker song: No Place for the Innocent - otherwise this would have been quite a tough choice...
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Posted By: SLFTB1
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 03:57
Welcome Sarah, you are indeed the picture of OCD lovliness
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 04:26
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Pure ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: sarahc
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 07:10
 Played Pure in the car this morning - stunning CD!
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SLFTB1 wrote:Posted By: Badabing666
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 07:33
| So tough to choose when these are 2 of my absolutely fave 3 Pendragon albums. In the end I plumped for Pure but there is very little between them. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 10:49
"Pure" by 1.5 miles.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 11:14
Well, good thing then that I just purchased Pure.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 14:29
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Pure, definitely a much stronger album to me.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 19:20
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Posted By: progrockinfl
Date Posted: September 07 2009 at 00:24
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PURE and simple this album rocks .always been a fan of PENDRAGON and the neo-prog bands. this album strays from that catagory into hard prog territory . without a doubt this is the best album i've bought in a long time. really cant wait to hear what comes next. |
Posted By: pharcanal
Date Posted: November 12 2009 at 06:45
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As someone said way back at the top of this..........nothing on Pure sticks in my mind whereas Believe has several that I love!
Got to be Believe! ------------- ScoZmos |
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:49
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Pure, one of 2 Neo-Prog albums I own. (and actually enjoy)
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:21
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Pure, it sounds better and it glues better ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: November 13 2009 at 02:00
| Pure fantastic! |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: March 04 2010 at 14:30
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This is a pole that was started several months ago that I wanted to bump. At that point I'd only heard Pure. I finally picked up Believe the other day and can cast a vote for this one. I'm going with the majority and giving my vote to Pure. I like Believe but absolutely love Pure. "Indigo" has got to be one of the stronger opening tracks that I've heard in a while and the first two parts of the Comatose suite blow me away. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: March 05 2010 at 07:29
| Believe is a weaker version of Pendragon's earlier classics such as The Masquerade or NOTW, while Pure was a total shed of skin which I loved. Much more heavier and agressive. Must go with Pure. |
Posted By: sargassov
Date Posted: March 05 2010 at 08:37
Yes, I agree with
Morningrise at Pure Barrett made a rethinking of his work and gave his
best work to date. He seemed to analyze
all the errors and weaknesses of the previous two albums. For example Not Of This World was too protracted, and
Believe better but I had the impression that it is unfinished or not
completed!  |