Duplicated entries
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Topic: Duplicated entries
Posted By: NotAProghead
Subject: Duplicated entries
Date Posted: July 10 2009 at 19:33
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Some duplicated entries: 1. Deep Purple "Come Hell or High Water" DVD already existed: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9170 - , another one should be deleted: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23894 - 2. Rainbow "Live In Germany 1976": http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13711 - In my opinion it was enough to mention (what I just did) that US version has been also released in 1996 under the title "Live In Europe" instead of adding new entry. I think this item: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=21687 - should be deleted. EDIT: Fixed by admins. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 03:14
Thanks, on the work list to be done!
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 23:03
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Bob, please add to your list this one:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9115 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9115 - initial release of DP "Scandinavian Nights" http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=21714 - ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 15 2009 at 19:04
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Some other duplications.
1. Black Sabbath "Never Say Die" DVD
- old entry: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16933 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16933
2. Deep Purple "Masters from the Vaults" DVD
- old entry: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=21707 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=21707
3. Pink Floud "Pulse" DVD/Video
- old entry: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7855 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7855
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 05:10
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I have carried all the bonus info to the original release so this is now a duplicate.
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2347 - ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 06:45
^ What albums are you talking about? The link leads to Devin Townsend.  ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 06:54
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No it doesn't. It links to Terria Ltd edition. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 08:52
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^ Now it's clear
Devin Townsend "Terria":
- original album: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2346 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2346
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 09:31
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It was always clear. The link was always to Teira Ltd edition. Look I don't need an argument with a team mate. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 19 2009 at 11:33
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The Beatles "Yesterday And Today":
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23328 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23328 - initial entry http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23329 - ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 19 2009 at 12:04
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Devin Townsend "Accelereatrd Evolution"
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2348 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2348 - Original
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2349 - ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 22 2009 at 14:18
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The Doors "The Very Best of"
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22701 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22701 - Original
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22700 - ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 22 2009 at 14:31
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The Doors "The Soft Parade Retrospective"
2 almost identical entries:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22695 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22695 - it has better picture
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22696 - ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: July 22 2009 at 15:05
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It's best to PM some admin.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 22 2009 at 15:53
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I know, Bartek. My idea was to "collect" more duplications in this thread and then PM to some admin. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 24 2009 at 10:22
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some Admin? as in: some Admin he turned out to be?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 24 2009 at 10:25
Thanks Dean.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Dean wrote:Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 24 2009 at 10:26
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A pleasure my friend. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 05:37
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This Dream Theater Live Cd needs to be deleted as its not a release but part of a DVD package. DVD http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19707 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19707 CD to be deleted http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24895 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24895 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 05:58
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I'm not sure if this counts, but there's a special edition of OSI's first album which has a seperate entry to the standard edition... Standard edition - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2155 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2155 Special Edition - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2154 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2154 |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 06:33
I'll need to edit them first. Ok done that.... http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2154 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2154 this one can go.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:11
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Transatlanic I have put all info hrere http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1342 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1342 so this Special Edition can go http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1343 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1343 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:14
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Can we sticky this thread and can Admin have an alert to it? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:19
I can't move the two reviews and four ratings - if I delete the album entry they go too, so I can't delete it.
/edit - same for the OSI limited edition ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:21
I've stickied it - but there's no such animal as an Admin alert - I've put a watch on it so I get an email when anyone posts here, that's all I can do. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:26
Oh....wow.....never realised that...is there no solution? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:27
I suppose that what I meant then.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:28
Well, yes - we contact each reviewer individually and ask them to manually save and re-submit their review. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 27 2009 at 06:30
Yes..I can see that would be a major hassle. Its a shame. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 12:58
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Pat Metheny has two albums with duplicate entries - Zero Tolerance for Silence and Speaking of Now.
The Zero Tolerance album was released in 1994 so the 1992 entry should be deleted. Not sure on the other one. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 13:16
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I suggest you remove your ereview and we delete that one, and then we change the year on the other. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 13:18
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mmm. ok. I will try that tonight. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 13:26
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Pat Metheny... This one is ok, and has reviews. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12238 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12238 This can be deleted and has no reviews http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25376 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25376 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 13:28
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To Admin re deletion. Can you delete albums with just a rating? I'm guessing you can, but will lose the rating. But would you do it? Its one rating, regarding one of the Pat Metheny's above. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 11 2009 at 10:21
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I think this album should be deleted from the main studio album area, as it already appears in the "compilation" section, which is probably more appropriate place for it. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23309 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23309 ------------- |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 11 2009 at 10:30
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^ We'd better tell Jeff to save his review as it will be deleted along with the album. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 11 2009 at 10:32
/edit - done ------------- What? |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 11 2009 at 10:52
Grazie Deano
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Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 16:41
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24895 I don't think it has been released without the DVDs. I mean, there's the standard 2 disc DVD edition and the limited one, which additionally contains the three disc listed here. ------------- yeah |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 17:18
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^ deleted ------------- What? |
Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 13:56
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Thanks, Dean!
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 15:03
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Accidentaly clicked the add album button twice For Jesu's Opiate Sun EP. Can anyone delete one of them? Doesnt matter which one. Thanks! ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 16:19
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^ link? ------------- What? |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 02:10
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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=608 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=608 On the Henry Cow page, In Concerto is listed not once, not twice, but three times. Two are in the Official Singles/EPs/etc. section and one is in the album section; two have the same track listing and one is different. Seems a bit confusing, might need some looking into.
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 04:14
Noted also the Zero tolerance for silence double. Other has 5 star rating, and other 1 star definitelly argumented review. I'll flip out my 2 star review when it is fixed. 
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:42
The one in the album section and the newest in the EP section must go. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 08:15
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Dammit! I couldn't find Led Zeppelin "BBC Sessions", so i added it. And when i should check it out, i found that it was already here! Weird! So feel free to delete my entry. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:34
Thanks for clearing that up. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 13:38
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Sorry,guys, double click and as a result duplicated album filling Chicago discography. Could you please just delete it? Thanks!
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26049 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26049
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 14:14
------------- What? |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 28 2009 at 15:14
| Thanks, Dean! I'm affraid that at my very beginning on site I made few more duplicates and just left them as it is because didn't know what to do with. I will try to find them all and will report there. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 29 2009 at 03:17
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So, found one more my double click duplicate album, please delete this one as well! Thanks!
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25672 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25672
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 14:16
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Same thing, please delete!
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26232 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26232
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 18:04
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And this one too: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25674 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25674 ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 18:43
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all fixed. ------------- What? |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 08:28
| Great!Thanks! |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 11:02
| http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26244 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26244 one more for me for delete,please |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 11:35
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26246 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26246 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26247 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26247 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26248 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26248 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26249 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26249 |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 14:35
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I don't know what you want you want to do with this one. Somebody's put a licenced repro of John McLaughlin's Devotion ( titled Marbles ) in the John McLaughlin box set section. ------------- |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 15:00
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I think ,this one should could be deleted as duplicate. It is same "Devotion" album , but with different cover and name. So, in fact it could be deleted, and just info about it could be placed as re-release to Devotion page. If you agree, just delete it and I will fill Devotion with addition info.
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25727 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25727
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 07:40
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Somehow an album got added twice: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26353 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26353 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26354 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26354 ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 10:32
| One has a typo. |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 15:44
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that is why he added it once more ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 16:20
| Shouldn't the messed up one be deleted? |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 19:23
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All latest duplications (The Carpet Knights, Two Siberians and McLaughlin) reported in PM to Easy Livin, hope he will delete them soon. P.S. One of Two Siberians albums has been added 4 times. Slava, you're a champion  .------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 03:09
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Yes,Eugene, I know . It happened because I tried to fill album's info in orginal language (songs are titled in russian only, using cyrilic letters for sure). After I filled album info and tried to submit, I got a message that there is mistake No. ..., and album could not be submited. I changed some places ( for example,just translated album name and filled it in english), tried to submit again. Same result. After few times, I found at least acceptable combination, and got positive answer after submiting album's info. But when I opened all band's page, I realised, that all versions of album,I tried to input and got negative result, are on it!!! So, it's more problem with a system, not I was so stupid or drunk to repeat the same mistake again and again (joke)!
By the way, I reported that problem at once, some days ago,because the page looks really terrible.Still waiting...
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 03:53
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Great! All duplicates are deleted! THANKS!!!
My life is easier now!
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 17:01
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For some bizarre reason, someone added a new Renaissance: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26085">Turn of the Cards.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 22:04
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^ Reported to Admins, good old Bob takes his gun. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 13:43
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Please delete duplicate album http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26429 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26429
I am working on Bill Nelson discog ( and it is 50+ albums!), so somewhere in between my work made double click again,sorry.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 13:59
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^ Reported to Easy Livin. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 17 2009 at 20:21
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Duplicated Metheny albums:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63599 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63599
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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 22:59
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The Flower Kings Rainmaker & Rainmaker Limited Edition
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=375 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=375
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=376 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=376
I notice that ProgLucky added both of these way back at the beginning. was there a different policy back then?
I have sent a PM to Easy Livin
Cheers, T.Rox
------------- "Without prog, life would be a mistake." ...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 02:41
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From the gmail address...
There are two entries for the Greenslade single Temple Song, one under Greenslade and the other under Greenslade, Dave.
The good: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24135 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24135
The bad: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26604 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26604
I have sent a PM to Easy Livin to get the Greenslade, Dave entry deleted.
Cheers, T.Rox
------------- "Without prog, life would be a mistake." ...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 17:33
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Duplicate entry was found :
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26776 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26776
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 18:25
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^ Thanks, reported to Easy Livin. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 13:06
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Thanx,Eugene, it looks you are busy this days Happy New Year, by the way!
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 21:20
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Happy New Year, Slava! Yes, a liitle bit busy ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: January 07 2010 at 14:23
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There is a difficult case there: Medeski Martin and Wood album Zaebos is placed in two places:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19780 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19780
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24777 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24777
Both placings has their logic. The placing under their own names is usual. The second placing is on John Zorn section. John Zorn is known by managing different musicians for his musical projects ( and often, as in case with Zaebos album, he doesn't playing on album himself at all). According to it's release info, this album is of John Zorn's serie Book of Angels ( what is written on cover), Vol. 11. Cover design is as of other albums from Book of Angels serie, and John Zorn name is stated on cover as well.
So, in my opinion, this album is a strange case, when even if only musicians are Medeski Martin and Wood, it should be placed on John Zorn's site. But even in opposite case, I think it could be only placed in one of two places. Happily, in both the album still isn't reviewed, but the decision should be made asap!If we will live everything as it is we will have terrible situation one day: the same album could have different ratings depending on which place it is placed!
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 11 2010 at 05:35
| Marillion's http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11804 - From Stoke Row to Ipanema DVD is listed twice. The setlists are the same in both entries and refer to a 2DVD edition, but the total time is different. I haven't got the DVD myself, so I don't know which entry is correct or if there is a VHS edition available. The years of release mentioned in the entries are 1983(?), 1990 and 2003. |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: January 12 2010 at 20:14
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Slava, Vompatti, thanks, I've sent PM to Easy Livin. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 14 2010 at 17:15
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Someone added the super-duper deluxe 40th anniversary edition of KC's In The Court Of The Crimson King as a compilation http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26891 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26891 Note: They must've spent forever typing this out: CD1 (in mini-lp sleeve of UK Island 2nd Pressing) 1. "21st Century Schizoid Man" 2. "I Talk to the Wind" 3. "Epitaph" 4. "Moonchild" 5. "The Court of the Crimson King" 6. "Moonchild" [full version] 7. "I Talk to the Wind" [Fripp and McDonald duo version] 8. "I Talk to the Wind" [alternate take] 9. "Epitaph" [backing track] 10. "Wind session" [extracts from the session that produced the intro to "21st Century Schizoid Man"] . tracks 1-5: 2009 Robert Fripp & Steven Wilson re-mix from the original multi-track master tapes. . tracks 7-10: Alternative takes from the original studio session. Mixed & produced by Steven Wilson. CD2 (in mini-lp sleeve of Canadian Release with artist's name sticker on the front cover) 1. "21st Century Schizoid Man" 2. "I Talk to the Wind" 3. "Epitaph" 4. "Moonchild" 5. "The Court of the Crimson King" 6. "21st Century Schizoid Man" [early instrumental recording] 7. "I Talk to the Wind" [BBC session, from bootleg source] 8. "21st Century Schizoid Man" [BBC session, from a BBC transcription disc] 9. "The Court of the Crimson King (Part 1)" 10. "The Court of the Crimson King (Part 2)" . tracks 1-5: 2004 re-master, transferred of the original 1969 vinyl mix . tracks 7-8: BBC Radio 1 session . tracks 9-10: A-side and B-side from the original vinyl single CD3 (in mini-lp sleeve of original UK 1st release in original paper stock) 1. "21st Century Schizoid Man" [trio version - instrumental] 2. "I Talk to the Wind" [studio run-through] 3. "Epitaph" [alternate version] 4. "Moonchild" [take 1] 5. "The Court of the Crimson King" [take 3] 6. "21st Century Schizoid Man" 7. "I Talk to the Wind" 8. "Epitaph" 9. "Moonchild" 10. "The Court of the Crimson King" . tracks 1-5: Alternative takes from the original studio session. Mixed & produced by Steven Wilson. . tracks 6-10: De-clicked vinyl transfer of the first Island Records stereo UK pressing run. CD4 (in mini-lp sleeve of Argentina release [name of album printed on the front cover] in original paper stock) 1. "21st Century Schizoid Man" 2. "The Court of the Crimson King" 3. "Get Thy Bearings" 4. "Epitaph" 5. "Mantra" 6. "Travel Weary Capricorn" 7. "Mars" 8. "The Court of the Crimson King" 9. "A Man A City" 10. "Epitaph" 11. "21st Century Schizoid Man" . tracks 1-7: restored bootleg, recorded live at Hyde Park, London, 5 July 1969 . tracks 8-11: restored bootleg, recorded Live at Fillmore East, New York, November 1969 CD5 (in mini-lp sleeve of US promotional release [with artist's name sticker] in original paper stock, plus three stickers in the sleeve [two, one red and one yellow stating ) "Promotional d/j copy monaural Not For Sale" and the third, orange, stating "Promotional Copy Not For Sale") 1. "21st Century Schizoid Man" 2. "I Talk to the Wind" 3. "Epitaph" 4. "Moonchild" 5. "The Court of the Crimson King" 6. "The Court of the Crimson King" . tracks 1-5: mono album mix used for radio promotion only in the USA . track 6: edited, mono single mix used for radio promotion only in the USA DVD (in mini-lp sleeve of original Japan release with Rock Age obi strip and original paper stock) 1. 5.1 Surround Sound mixes available in DTS 5.1. Mixed & produced by Steven Wilson. 2. 24/48 High Resolution Stereo mixes of CD1. 3. 24/48 High Resolution Stereo mixes of alternative takes from the original studio session (CD3 tracks 1-5). 4. 24/48 High Resolution Stereo mixes of 2004 re-master, transferred of the original 1969 vinyl mix (CD2 tracks 1-5). 5. "21st Century Schizoid Man" - film from Hyde Park concert 5 July 1969. ------------- 
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 18:37
| ^ thanks joel, but it looks like there is enough new material to justify it having it's own entry seperate from the original. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 19:04
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It's tricky, because besides the various remixes of the same material or various alternate takes of the same material, there are also two live recordings. It could have been a compilation, indeed, but I'd say that we should take into account the publisher's intentions, too. This is definitely not regarded as a compilation by the publisher, but as a very rich, "expanded" reissue of the same album. I'd say we should only update the release information of the original release and delete this new entry. We must remember that the new material is 99% not original material, only variations of the same (remixes, alternate takes, live recordings). This always goes to "bonus", according to PA policy. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 19:11
| I understand that this is your opinion on this, but there are others who don't share that opinion, not just me either, just chill for a bit and we will decide if this should stay or not, muchos gracias. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 19:18
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 19:21
No, that is the PA policy as it was explained to me too some time ago. I don't mind if we change it, though. However I am surprised by you suggesting me to chill after posting two polite and reasoned posts that contradict your stand. I am very chilled, do I seem otherwise? 
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 00:17
| Thanks for looking after the site Alex, but after taking the time to check out what's on this CD, I'd say the hardcore KC fan like myself would find at least 2 Cds worth of new and interesting material on here. It's not a compilation at all, but until we have a better category, that's it's best fit. |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 16:36
Looks like these are two editions of the same album:
Track-lists in both entries are completely the same. The line-ups are different though... ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 19 2010 at 03:37
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Here are some for deletion http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64428 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64428 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: January 19 2010 at 09:03
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In the Jan Hammer artist section, the album Drive from 1994 is listed twice. Delete the entry without ratings maybe? http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26193 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26193
Osibisa has their Live at the Marquee album listed twice. Delete the one listed as a studio album instead of a live album: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11377 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11377
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 19 2010 at 09:23
I agree with both these deletions, but make it this album from Osibisa http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25563 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25563 the other has a better cover.
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Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: January 19 2010 at 15:17
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The best I can tell, these are the same two albums, just reissued by different companies (I've looked into this issue fairly extensively; I also have the first 2007 edition, and it appears to be the same as the second album dated 2009):
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15412 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15412
(This first one is the original release in 2007)
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22913 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22913
(This second one has more complete data regarding personnel and album times, and has a review)
Thanks! ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: January 20 2010 at 03:45
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Double click error, could you delete, please? Thanks!
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=27002 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=27002
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 20 2010 at 05:26
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 20 2010 at 05:29
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Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 12:41
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Two of the Label Sampler albums are duplicated; Strange Pleasures and Spirit of Joy.
The entries that should be removed (they don't have any ratings):
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24099 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24099
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24120 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24120
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: January 31 2010 at 14:17
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There is the same album ( the first one is original release, the second one is just re-release, track list is the same, cover picture is the same, just all text is translated in English, whenever it is Musea Records 2001 CD re-release). First one (with Russian text) is original, the second one should be deleted.
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11942 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11942
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10659 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10659
There is all discogs as confirmation for this action with all re-releases ( in Russian only, sorry
) http://www.avtograf.com.ru/discograf/avtograf/1989_kamenny_krai/1989_stone_land.htm - http://www.avtograf.com.ru/discograf/avtograf/1989_kamenny_krai/1989_stone_land.htm
(for those who is interested in details and understand Russian)
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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: January 31 2010 at 21:13
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26946 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=18312 The same album, one under the Masada header, the other in the Secret Chiefs 3 page. Interesting. Another example of why we should be able to hotlink an album under two different performers. ------------- 
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: February 01 2010 at 02:17
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The same situation as above is with another John Zorn's Masada series album:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24777 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24777
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19780 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19780
I believe that both cases aren't easy: Masada released all line of albums recorded by other artists. So, no strabge they are placed in both discogs in few cases. I think , there the principal decision should be done.
By the way, I reported this problem around a month ago. There for sure the best decision will be to have a link between same albums in two artists discographies (if technically possible). If not, I think possibly it is better to leave albums in original artists discographies, not in Masada. This decision will be more practical: it is easier just to control Masada discogs only ( and clean it time to time from these albums additions), than to control all separate artists pages.
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