Is Baroque Pop Prog Related?
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Topic: Is Baroque Pop Prog Related?
Posted By: The Truth
Subject: Is Baroque Pop Prog Related?
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 12:04
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I have been listening to quite a bit Baroque Pop lately, (Namely Andrew Bird,) and it seems like to me it has a lot in common with prog rock. The song structures are simpler than prog but still more complex than other genres and the lyrics sound very much like prog lyrics. Am I just crazy or is Baroque Pop Prog Related? ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 12:13
| Er, could you define 'Baroque Pop'? I only heard about "Baroque Kraut Pop" once and I don't know who is Andrew Bird. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 12:32
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Baroque Pop is sort of Proto-Prog Related. Like Progressive Rock, it grew out of the Psychedelic Pop/Rock scene of the late 60s but never developed the intricate jazz-influenced complexity of Prog Rock. During this period several bands that we now consider to be Prog dipped their toes in the Baroque Pop pond before expanding into what we call Prog (Procol Harum and to some extent The Moody Blues being the most obvious) whilst others did not (Zombies, The Association etc.) - I think it is fair to say the Baroque Pop had some influence on the development of Progressive Rock with bamds like The Beatles, The Stones and The Beach Boys all experimenting with classical instruments, arangements and orchestration within the standard Pop format (ie not actually producing Prog songs, but perhaps Proto-Symphonic Prog).
Of the modern era, Baroque Pop appears to be a tag applied to any band that gets "a bit orchestral" - some of those artists we consider Prog (The Decemberists have been called Baroque Pop), some are Prog Related (Mercury Rev), some we will continue to argue over (Tori Amos, Joanna Newsom), and some we have yet to discuss (The Divine Comedy etc.). Whether this "prog" relatedness is due to the Baroque elements of their music sounding "a bit Prog" is open to debate.
There is also a crossover between Baroque Pop and Dream Pop (often called Shoegazer - though in the UK at least that is a slightly different genre) with bands ranging from The Cocteau Twins through to Mew switching between both subgenres from song to song. Of course bands such as No-Man, David Sylvian and The Gathering blur this even more and enter into Prog territory whole-sale. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 12:35
Try this for a starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque_pop - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque_pop ------------- What? |
CPicard wrote:Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 14:01
Thanks, I got it now. |
Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: July 21 2009 at 08:37
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Andrew Bird is more indie rock, my girlfriend is his number one fan. He can be considered as prog, definitely! He has something that sounds like 7/8 on Anonanimal or something, and a lot of looping and sampling. The guy is really prog, most suitably Prog Folk. ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: Zebedee
Date Posted: July 28 2009 at 10:56
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I've recently discovered Andrew Bird and while I admire his skills as a musician, I wouldn't exactly call it prog. This is yet another one of those borderline cases. Anyway... I like his music, whether it's prog or not. -------------  Friendship is like wetting your pants: everyone can see it, but only you can feel its warmth. |