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Herbie Hancock -the Mwandishi trilogy

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Topic: Herbie Hancock -the Mwandishi trilogy
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Herbie Hancock -the Mwandishi trilogy
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 14:37
Such excellent stuff that I've been listening to a lot of late..

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Posted By: Evan
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 14:47
Call me strange, but my love for Herbie begins and ends at Headhunters.  I'll have to give these discs another spin.  


Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 14:51
Originally posted by Evan

Call me strange, but my love for Herbie begins and ends at Headhunters.  I'll have to give these discs another spin.  


...that's about where I get off LOL

I voted for Crossings, with Mwandishi close behind. Approve

Nice poll, Logan! Thumbs Up


Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 14:58
Originally posted by Evan

Call me strange, but my love for Herbie begins and ends at Headhunters.  I'll have to give these discs another spin.  


Since you asked: you're strange...

I too voted for Crossings with Mwandishi close behind... and Sextant is a masterpiece too! Smile


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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo


Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 15:04

Crossings and Sextant are really almost at the same level. But I pick up Sextant a little bit over

Crossings. Smile


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 15:20
It's difficult for me to choose one.  Amazing.

I hope this poll will encourage some who may not yet have caught the Herbie lovebug to check out these albums.  I don't care if one is into melodic prog, or whatever, check it out. 

I'm a  little sad that it took me so long to really explore Herbie Hancock's work (in my progressive journey, I always lag well behind others -- after years of mostly leaving music behind due to to a dominant passion for film , I had a heck of a lot of catching up to do).


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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 16:40
I loved Headhunters, and so dived right into this trilogy. Being a Davis and Coltrane fan, these three were distinctly quite a bit more difficult to digest. I don't feel like I have a handle on any of them, really. So I'm voting the can't decide option, wuss that I am. But you know what? I'll put them all on now.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 16:43
Good man, and I'm a Davis and Coltrane fan myself (see my sig).

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 16:46
hugely influential stuff, practically reinvented modern jazz and American film music.. Crossings for me, five stars easy


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 17:03
^ Agreed, it's a brilliant album.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 17:14
I'll be the first brave one to choose the "don't know any of them" option.  I have Headhunters and Thrust and have been planning on getting into more Herbie material, with these three on the list. 

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 17:16
don't panic


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 17:22
I'll try not to.

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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 18:20
I only own Mwandishi, and I love it.  I may be getting Crossings soon.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 18:41
Originally posted by Logan

It's difficult for me to choose one.  Amazing.

I hope this poll will encourage some who may not yet have caught the Herbie lovebug to check out these albums.  I don't care if one is into melodic prog, or whatever, check it out. 

I'm a  little sad that it took me so long to really explore Herbie Hancock's work (in my progressive journey, I always lag well behind others -- after years of mostly leaving music behind due to to a dominant passion for film , I had a heck of a lot of catching up to do).
 
I love the Mwandishi trilogy above all in Herbie's career.
 
Although Herbie is the only absent of the "Miles Crowd" on Bitches Brew (he was on his honeymoon); the Mwandishi period is IMHO what comes closest to BB and a direct heriage of it.
 
 
It's pretty hard to pick one from the three, though..........
 
 
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by LiquidEternity

I loved Headhunters, and so dived right into this trilogy. Being a Davis and Coltrane fan, these three were distinctly quite a bit more difficult to digest. I don't feel like I have a handle on any of them, really. So I'm voting the can't decide option, wuss that I am. But you know what? I'll put them all on now.
 
The Head Hunters years are quite different and could be classified as funk-jazz.
 
Personally I find the HH's HH too static: find a groove and stick to it
 
 
As opposed to the constantly evolving Mwandishi albums
 
 
I'll go for Sextant, I guess
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

 



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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 19:06
Sextans for me.

Put more of this poll Logan to teach up the d*nm DT lovers....Wink


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 19:07
Sextant followed by Crossings.In a way i wished he'd kept following the same path for a couple of more albums because for my tastes they kept getting better.

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 26 2009 at 11:13
It's a tough call, but Crossings gets my vote, and not just because I share my surname with the synth player. It's a pity Herbie Hancock didn't do a bit more in the same exerimental vein.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: July 26 2009 at 12:11
All I have is Headhunters.  Great funk-jazz.  He was stellar with Miles Davis, but that was many years before. 

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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 03:25
Originally posted by Syzygy

It's a tough call, but Crossings gets my vote, and not just because I share my surname with the synth player. It's a pity Herbie Hancock didn't do a bit more in the same exerimental vein.


You'll find him doing it some more on Eddie Henderson's fantastic Realizations and to some extent the follow up Inside Out. Its got practically the whole Mwandishi lineup including HH himself.

Crossings
for me. Desert island album.


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 04:24
Originally posted by Syzygy

It's a tough call, but Crossings gets my vote, and not just because I share my surname with the synth player. It's a pity Herbie Hancock didn't do a bit more in the same exerimental vein.
 
 
Yeah, but for some reasond HH chooses to do electronics himself, and its's a lot more prominent and Kraut-y" than when Gleeson was doing it.
 
 
 
Originally posted by Rocktopus

You'll find him doing it some more on Eddie Henderson's fantastic Realizations and to some extent the follow up Inside Out. Its got practically the whole Mwandishi lineup including HH himself.

 
Thanks for the cue, Christer.


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Posted By: js (Easy Money)
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 05:20
Originally posted by Rocktopus


Originally posted by Syzygy

It's a tough call, but Crossings gets my vote, and not just because I share my surname with the synth player. It's a pity Herbie Hancock didn't do a bit more in the same exerimental vein.
You'll find him doing it some more on Eddie Henderson's fantastic Realizations and to some extent the follow up Inside Out. Its got practically the whole Mwandishi lineup including HH himself.Crossings for me. Desert island album.


Bennie Maupin and Julian Priester also put out albums with Gleeson and many of the others on board.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 05:41
^Yep. Both great too. Love, Love doesn't feature Herbie, though. And if that one Bennie's The Jewel in the Lotus makes you hungy for more, check out Buster Williams somewhat related Pinnacle. Not as fantastic, but really good.


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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 14:33
No votes for Mwandishi yet! LOL

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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo


Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 14:41
Truthfully, if there weren't easy out options and we absolutely had to choose one of the three, I would have gone Mwandishi. Ostinatio (Suite for Angela) is fantastic! It's the only song out of the nine that I can recognize and somewhat digest at this point. Hm. It'll take more work, but that's okay.

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 15:02
Crossings!!
Beautiful!


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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 19:55

Sextant for me.  Special album...it's the first one I heard of the three.



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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: July 28 2009 at 00:07
I voted on Mwandishi.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 28 2009 at 02:32
Originally posted by Easy Money

Originally posted by Rocktopus


Originally posted by Syzygy

It's a tough call, but Crossings gets my vote, and not just because I share my surname with the synth player. It's a pity Herbie Hancock didn't do a bit more in the same exerimental vein.
You'll find him doing it some more on Eddie Henderson's fantastic Realizations and to some extent the follow up Inside Out. Its got practically the whole Mwandishi lineup including HH himself.Crossings for me. Desert island album.


Bennie Maupin and Julian Priester also put out albums with Gleeson and many of the others on board.
 
 
Anotherthing that makes the Mwandishi music so relevant with Bitches Brew is Maupin's bass clarinets laying foundation layers od wind instruments. That gives such a depth to the rest of the music.
 
You'll clearly hear Zappa working with this thing in Grand Wazoo and Jawaka


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 28 2009 at 02:34
 ^ yep


Posted By: Progbeatz
Date Posted: September 08 2009 at 17:45
mwandishi by far...
 
parts of crossings i like...but sextant is a bit to indigestable for me at this point...i like my jazz jazzy lol


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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: September 08 2009 at 18:14
After further review, Sextant. Hornets is absolutely brilliant.

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