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Topic: Best Star Trek Series ?
Posted By: Yorkie X
Subject: Best Star Trek Series ?
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 23:29
I like sci fi and I like prog I`m curious if theres any kind of a connection so I thought I would create a Star Trek series Poll first just to test the water. Tongue 



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 08:21
I grew up with the original.  The cartoon version actually had some good writers but the scenes where there was running always looked a little cheesy.  TNG started off way too corny for a lot of their episodes in the first season, but it matured very well, so gets my vote.  The last three lost my interest after a while, though I think I liked Enterprise the best amongst those although the opening theme music always makes me cringe.  "It's been a long tiiiime..." (hits mute).


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 15:16
I go for ST: TNG.
The original series is not bad, but I think it had been "limited" by the producers.
"Enterprise" is a punishment.
"Voyager" was interesting in its manner of taking the concept of a space odyssey in another meaning.
"DS9"... We want the next chapters.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 15:25
the cartoon was bad, baaaaaaad.. the characters always seemed stoned and floating in some weird psychedelic ether.. that it was drawn by the same people who did the Brady Kids cartoon didn't help I guess

TOS all the way, if you haven't caught the remasters they've been showing on CW channels they're really interesting..some of the effects and exteriors were re-done and look really good




Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 15:41
I still have fond memories of discussing the previous night's Star Trek with my Dad on the bus to school when it started syndicating in the UK, and, in terms of pushing the boundaries of sci fi, the original series will never, ever, be beaten. Without it, no one would have seen Star Wars, Close Encounters, or the rest. It was, and remains, unique.

TNG was also a great series, certainly once Roddenbury ceased to be involved on a daily basis. DSN was an interesting experiment in darkness which ultimately, for me, disappointed and failed.

Voyager and Enterprise were simply boring - far too PC and unchallenging.

However, the new film - well, what a resurrectionClap


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 15:53
I like them all.  Enterprise is the only one of the Series where I have seen all of the episodes from start to finish, so I think that I enjoyed that one the most.  However, The Next Generation was probably the best in my opinion.  I didn't see TNG until it was in reruns.  I'm not sure if I have seen all of the episodes or not.  I have definitely seen a lot of them.  I am pretty much the same way with the original series.  I've only seen some episodes of DS9 and Voyager.  I don't know that I have ever seen the Animated Series.

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 16:00
The Next Generation by far, followed by DS9, Voyagger  and Enterprise.
 
Never liked Star Trek with Shatner.
 
Iván
 
 


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 16:01
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

  I don't know that I have ever seen the Animated Series.


Imagine that Genesis, Yes, KC, and all the classic prog bands simply ceased recording in 1973, and no prog anywhere was recorded for some five years. Then, all of a sudden, someone, because of the cult status of the genre, decides to put a band together doing covers of our favourite bands and songs, with contributions from original artists.

That's basically what the Animated Series meant to us when it came out - a fix of Star Trek in a vacuum, and we grabbed it like a heroin addict will grab a fix. Ultimately, it was just as unsatisfying - bloody awful actually.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 16:36
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

  I don't know that I have ever seen the Animated Series.


Imagine that Genesis, Yes, KC, and all the classic prog bands simply ceased recording in 1973, and no prog anywhere was recorded for some five years. Then, all of a sudden, someone, because of the cult status of the genre, decides to put a band together doing covers of our favourite bands and songs, with contributions from original artists.

That's basically what the Animated Series meant to us when it came out - a fix of Star Trek in a vacuum, and we grabbed it like a heroin addict will grab a fix. Ultimately, it was just as unsatisfying - bloody awful actually.


that's true, I'd forgotten that-- we were all missing the show, waiting for a movie or new series or something.. reruns, conventions, and Space:1999 was all we had

good times




Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 15:48
THG...in a landslide


Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 21:59
The original series was ahead of itself at the time and has a certain charm , the chemistry of the crew was perfect  .. however I didn't vote for it probably due to Kirk. (I never liked Kirk very much)
   AT its peak Next Generation was fantastic at the moment I'm revisiting Next Gen it definitely had some weak moments a few episodes on season one and two were pathetic, I really enjoyed Voyager its often maligned but its good and Deep Space 9 I`m surprised hasn't scored any votes yet as it started flat but ended up really good.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 22:05
Next Gen did have some very well-written episodes ..so what do people think of the TOS remasters? Some are really tastefully done, anyone see the redone 'Amok Time'? Some grest exteriors of Vulcan






Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 22:15
I really want to see the remasters but they are extremely expensive, at least where I'm at.

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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 22:18
They have cleaned them up very nicely .. this is old film we are talking about I was surprised how well they come up .. in whole I enjoyed them very much TOS is about 75% great they did have a few strange ones like trouble with tribbles ..  hahaha that was weird .. but like all things in the TOS each had its charm 


Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 22:20
OH  I forgot  ..  I have seen the spock's Beard one as well  ..  great episode  .. cant remember its title



Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 22:24
^ Mirror, Mirror   


Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 22:45

Have watched every episode of all 5 main series but only seen a handful of the animated ones.

It really is the most awesome franchise ever ... and although a lot of best ideas came out with the original series and TNG did a great job of refining it ... it is DS9 which I believe to be the greatest TV series of all time.Smile



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 29 2009 at 23:05
TNG by a comfortable margin over the oringal by a comfortable maring over Voyager by a exceedingly large gaping margin over DS9.
 
Didn't watch enough of the new Enterprise to really cast an opinion though what I did see I didn't care for particularly.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 07:26
Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

(I never liked Kirk very much)


Why.....didn't.....you....like.....Kirk?  Was it his acting....style? LOL


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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 08:46
I voted for Voyager, which I liked a lot. Great stories, great cast.

I also enjoyed The Next Generation.


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 13:06

I think that original Star Trek simply doesn't work in year 2009. Some old sci-fi movies/TV series does, but this one looks just silly.


I grow old on TNG, so what else should I say.



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 13:17
Originally posted by MartyMcFly89 MartyMcFly89 wrote:

I think that original Star Trek simply doesn't work in year 2009. Some old sci-fi movies/TV series does, but this one looks just silly.


I grow old on TNG, so what else should I say.



For the old series there are certainly some cringe worthy episodes where it drifted into more soap opera territory, or are too much '60's dated (the one with the hippies), but there are a few that I still enjoy watching over again despite having seen them ad-nauseum.   I think the occasional episodes where they drifted into comedy, like The Trouble With Tribbles were fun.  I really liked that scene in another one where Scotty drinks an alien who took human form under the table.


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 15:35
I like all of them, from TOS to Enterprise.  All of them have their cringe-worthy episodes, many of the second season episodes of TNG come to mind.  But even with the 2nd season, TNG is still my favorite.  TOS has some serious nostalgia value, plus some very good episodes.  The other three are all good too IMO.  Have all episodes of all series on DVD, except for the animated series, which I have the novelizations of (which are better anyway).  Embarrassed

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 17:39
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

I like all of them, from TOS to Enterprise.  All of them have their cringe-worthy episodes, many of the second season episodes of TNG come to mind.  But even with the 2nd season, TNG is still my favorite.  TOS has some serious nostalgia value, plus some very good episodes.  The other three are all good too IMO.  Have all episodes of all series on DVD, except for the animated series, which I have the novelizations of (which are better anyway).  Embarrassed


Yeah, Alan Dean Foster did a great job with the novels.  The cartoons were a little cheesy, but still it did attract some good writers (Foster adapted them to the novels).


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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 03:39
I too, liked all the series from TOS to Enterprise and actually found Enterprise to be surprisingly good. My favourite is ST: DS9 - known as "the thinking man's Star Trek". DS9 is probably the "heaviest" out of all the series. For sheer entertainment and having the sexiest crew, TNG wins hands down. 

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 10:08
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

I too, liked all the series from TOS to Enterprise and actually found Enterprise to be surprisingly good. My favourite is ST: DS9 - known as "the thinking man's Star Trek". DS9 is probably the "heaviest" out of all the series. For sheer entertainment and having the sexiest crew, TNG wins hands down. 
voted for DS9 ... being a (bigger) fan of Babylon 5 (and of Dune.. some influence from there too I think) the story-arc of the series was more satisfying in DS9 than in any other ST series. The bad guys were better too. (and from a male perspective the DS9 females were far sexier than the TNG females ... c'mon Jadzier Dax & Kira Nerys vs. Deanna Troy and Beverly Crusher... ). It also had Trials and Tribble-ations - a great Crossover episode.
 
TOS - still my favourite characters - Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhura, Sulu and Chekov are the stuff of legends - shame the series dated but ~80 episodes all written before Prog was invented, it hasn't dated that badly considering.
 
TNG - too many hollow Holo-deck episodes - at one point it felt like a re-make of The Time Tunnel;  too many characters you just want to slap (Wesley, Deanna, Wesley, Riker, Wesley, Keiko, Wesley, Guinan, Wesley, Diana's mother, Wesley, Q, Wesley); too many "but what are you feeling" moments; too many Brent Spinner spin-off characters; too many Q episodes. However, it did have the best ST Captain ever and the masterly idea of creating a race of bad guys based on Edward Scissorhands. Best episode was any with the Borg in.
 
Voyager just got too messy - I missed the whole of Season 7 through apathy. 7o9 and The Doc were the only saving grace.
 
Enterprise - good concept, started weak and didn't improve much until Season 3, which I though was pretty good as it had a continuous story-arc that was fairly gripping.
 
The latest film - brilliant way to revive a tired concept and to put pay to all the trekkies pointing out canonical errors in the ST universe.


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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 11:06
Bump, thread re-opened in view of renewed discussion here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79565&PN=2" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=79565&PN=2


Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 18:30
Thanks for reopening! Now I can vote for TOS, of course (first option) Approve

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 19:02
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

I think that original Star Trek simply doesn't work in year 2009. Some old sci-fi movies/TV series does, but this one looks just silly.
this is why people should check out the newly re-tooled episodes of TOS; modern visual effects added very tastefully to enhance certain exteriors and close-ups, they did a great job and I will be buying these, not the original versions .. see them !




Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 20:39
THIS!
 


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 20:50
 ^ good pic but Scotty looks like he just realized he's down to his last 3 bottles of Johnny Walker, and what's Anonymous Navagator doing in the shot?  Who is that, DeSalle?  Loser.



Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 23:52
The original series was a real hoot. "Cap'n, I'm givin' 'er all she's got!" ROFL

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