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Topic: Best Fates Warning singer?
Posted By: BFD31095
Subject: Best Fates Warning singer?
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 15:40
I've been listening to alot FW lately, and I'm a bit curious to see what other people think about this. My vote goes for Arch, although I'm sure Alder will win.



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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 15:47
I'm a huge Arch fan but i think your right Adler will win. Have you heard Arch's "Twist Of Fate" album? A must own in my opinion. He has Matheos,Portnoy and Vera helping him out.Amazing album,John has never sounded better.
How 'bout Arch singing "Guardian" or "Prelude To Ruin"? He's one of a kind.


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 15:48
I definitely prefer Alder. 

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 16:02
Originally posted by rushfan4

I definitely prefer Alder. 
 
Only a Detriot Red Wings fan would pick AdlerLOL. The Maple Leafs are God's team as you know and we tend to dwell in the past a lot.LOL


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 16:04
Sometimes the past is all that you've got to dwell on.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 16:24
Originally posted by rushfan4

Sometimes the past is all that you've got to dwell on.
LOL


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Posted By: BFD31095
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 16:32
Originally posted by sinkadotentree

Have you heard Arch's "Twist Of Fate" album? A must own in my opinion. He has Matheos,Portnoy and Vera helping him out.Amazing album,John has never sounded better.
 
Haven't heard it. Yet. Smile


Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 17:40
Hey, I think that this poll needs another option: "NEITHER".

I like the sound of this prog metal band, but John Arch is a Bruce Dickinson clone, and Ray Alder sings in the melodic metal style, that I hate. Then, I can't vote in this poll... Pinch


Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 18:49
Went for Alder...but I agree that Arch is great. I still need to hear more Arch albums, as I have only the Chasing Time compilation.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 20:32
Originally posted by Anguiad

Went for Alder...but I agree that Arch is great. I still need to hear more Arch albums, as I have only the Chasing Time compilation.
That's a great compilation though. If you can find "Awaken The Guardian" i think you'll be impressed.

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Posted By: BFD31095
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 20:47
Originally posted by herbie53

Hey, I think that this poll needs another option: "NEITHER".

I like the sound of this prog metal band, but John Arch is a Bruce Dickinson clone, and Ray Alder sings in the melodic metal style, that I hate. Then, I can't vote in this poll... Pinch
 
Verdade, esqueci.
 
Well, apparently it isn't possible to edit it. And please, John Arch a Dickinson clone? They are somewhat similar, but a clone?


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 00:18
Ray Alder for sure, but as sinkadotentree said Arch solo album Twist of fate is an essential listning and his prestation on Awaken the guardian or The spectre within is excellent. But I prefer Alder on Perfect symmetry or Parallels is mindblowing, impresive


Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 22:30
Arch is a fine singer and suited the band's early style, but I prefer Ray Alder.  He may be my favorite prog metal vocalist. 

Alder makes use of lots of higher register vocals like his predecessor on the albums No Exit and to a lesser extent on Perfect Symmetry, but from Parallels (which I still need to buy) onward he found his own voice.  If he kept singing the higher vocals, his voice would probably not sound as good as it does today.

I just listened to the Arch EP, and it's definitely moved to my "To Buy" list.  This may be sacriligious to some, and perhaps a bit premature, but I think I prefer it over Awaken The Guardian.


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: December 06 2009 at 08:44
I can't vote on this one. I think they're both great vocalists in their own way. I've heard Ray Adler perform some of the Jogn Arch era songs, and he doesn't pull it off that well, but I can't really imagine anyone else singing "Perfect Symmetry", "Parallels", "Inside Out" or "A Pleasant Shade of Gray".

But, man, John Arch is really really really good on "A Twist of Fate" - I think I also enjoy his voice more on the EP than on "Awaken the Guardian".


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 06 2009 at 08:45
Ray Alder is the voice of Fates Warning IMO.

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Posted By: DangerousCurves
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 08:55
John Arch is not a Bruce Dickinson clone. He may have a similar style but to my ears he sounds nothing like him. I have heard Arch on Awaken... and on his Twist Of Fate EP and I would say his voice is definitely an aquired taste. I first heard it on his website when he was releasing the EP and I was quite taken aback by it. Very unique and I think brilliant.
Having said that, I prefer Ray Alder. His voice is more to my taste and while not as unique as Arch's, it still has something different about it and as someone else has said, he could be my favourite prog metal singer.


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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 09:10
Voted for Alder - like his voice ...

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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 09:15
Ray Alder. No doubt.


Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 09:16
a very underrated band with an amazing singer and his name is Ray Alder. His voice is so powerful and beautiful that it is very rare in the Prog metal scene.

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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 09:42
John Arch for me... I know he is no so easy to hear... but when you discover the real potential of the singer presence you have to believe it... Arch is just great... Adler should win... but at least my votes goes with Arch...
 
His solo album is one masterpiece... without a doubt...


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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 13:17
just a matter of taste, both are top-class singers

Alder for me - winning on the emotion


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Posted By: BFD31095
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 21:04
Wow, Alder is way ahead Arch! A shame...
 
Really, Alder is a great and underrated singer with an amazing voice, but John Arch is just perfect. Just listen to the chorus in "Exodus".


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 21 2010 at 21:37
Originally posted by BFD31095

Wow, Alder is way ahead Arch! A shame...
 
Really, Alder is a great and underrated singer with an amazing voice, but John Arch is just perfect. Just listen to the chorus in "Exodus".
Couldn't agree more.


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Posted By: Epyros
Date Posted: January 22 2010 at 02:47
you can't be curious on the result and sure at the same time =P just kidding


Posted By: xTheSpectreWithinx
Date Posted: February 22 2010 at 13:12
Originally posted by sinkadotentree

Originally posted by rushfan4

I definitely prefer Alder. 
 
Only a Detriot Red Wings fan would pick AdlerLOL. The Maple Leafs are God's team as you know and we tend to dwell in the past a lot.LOL
 
GO LEAFS GO!!!!! Great avatar as well!!
 
For me, (and this is not a cop out) I think both guys are right for the era's of the band they were in. Sort of like Paul D'ianno and Bruce Dickenson.
 
I could not imagine Fata Morgana with Alder, or Parallels with Arch. Not that I wouldn't listen to either do either one, but it is like FAtes WArning during the Arch era was a different band...a little more organic, than from No Exit On where they became a bit more polished. Arch's style was more "punk" or maybe less operatic?, and FW's sound was a bit less produced for the first 3 albums.


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