How Bad Did Your Flu Shot Hurt 2009?
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Topic: How Bad Did Your Flu Shot Hurt 2009?
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Subject: How Bad Did Your Flu Shot Hurt 2009?
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:27
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:35
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Piece of cake. Wish I could find a swine flu shot. There are none to be had around here.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:45
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Here's what's a little funny. We went to a pharmacy near a hospital for one and their computers were malfunctioning, so it took forever to get one. By the way, it looks like your avatar is trying to shoot my CPU...  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:47
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Didn't do any kind of flu shots so far. I rarely do it anyway ( that one time the school made us...etc.) ------------- 
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:56
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Didn't feel a thing - of course I'm a real man!
(Not had any flu jabs - is it compulsory in the States?
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:02
Yeah, she's a handful. But don't worry Brian, she's only hunting criminals and bad guys. ------------- |
Slartibartfast wrote:Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:48
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The shot itself, I didn;t feel anything. However, after a few minutes, my whole arm became terribly sore for the rest of the day. After that, I was fine. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:55
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I still haven't decided whether I should get one. I'm fairly certain that they're injecting us with some kind of mind control drugs to make us join the army and vote for the right-wing parties. (Major political threats would obviously be wiped out with poison.) On the other hand there's a slight chance that they're just infecting us with that swine stuff so that they can sell us more medicine. Either way the absurdity of the whole thing will probably lure me into getting a shot sooner or later. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:47
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Flu shot?
As a Young Person, I am invincible to sickness and bad luck. I yell at the mirror daily and I think that keeps the germs away. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:58
| The seasonal flu shot made my arm sore, but the shot itself didn't hurt. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 13:06
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 13:10
didn't feel a thing 
seriously...it's just a scratch
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 13:11
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I am getting no flu shots period. My white blood cells carry tactical nuclear weapons. That's not a problem for you pacifists, is it?   ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 13:32
Please don't come near me when you catch a cold, the nuclear fallout might be bad. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 13:38
The only time you will want to be away from me is during my gassy periods...which is always. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 13:42
Gas or nuclear fallout, both are just as deadly. |
Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 15:13
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I cannot remember the last time I got sick but they were handing out flu shots and swine flu nasal spray at my school. It was quick, free, convenient and a friend was doing it so I figured I'd tag along. The shot was completely painless, but like so many others my arm felt sore for the day.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 19:01
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I don't make a habit of running out and getting shots for diseases with a 99% survival rate. -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 19:01
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Didn't get it. *cough,cough* -------------  |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 23:08
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I didn't get a flu shot becuase I'm not 90 years old. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 23:11
Also because I was in class during the free flu shot program. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 23:13
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It would be poetic justice if you all died because you didn't realize what H1N1 actually was. Not that I got one yet either, and I probably won't bother, but I have it coming for plenty of other reasons. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 23:14
| I hate the nasal mist crap, just shoot me up. |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 23:24
I want to get the swine flu so I could wear this t-shirt |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 23:43
I don't understand the logic behind not getting a shot. Care to explain to me why so many of you fellas believe you're much luckier than the rest of us poor saps? 
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 08 2009 at 23:55
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Because people with healthy immune systems in normal environments are very unlikely to catch the virus so why expose yourself imporbable yet concerning side effects associated with the vaccination? Why spend money on it if it will do you no good? And why not leave the supply for those who actually need it like the elderly, infants, etc. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 00:00
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 00:19
drink some juice and get some bed rest, you'll be fine you big baby ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 00:47
I believe its because of the vaccination histories of people from older age groups. I wasn't speaking of H1N1. I was talking about the seasonal flu. I thought the thread was too. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 00:54
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Well I guess now we have to just sit patiently and wait for Slarti to let us know which one it was. Fortunately, I didn't have anything else planned for the rest of the day. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 00:59
Wow. That was such a well-articulated argument, and so relevant to my question, too! My whole outlook on this issue has now changed! really! If you can't defend your position with actual debate, being an a****le and resorting to name-calling is the second-best thing, I suppose. |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 01:14
I'm doing it every autumn, but I skipped it this year for some reason. My mother is working in a clinic, so injection shots are commonplace in our house .And we are not overdoing it - perhaps once or twice a year. But I guess it's a bit unusual: other people usually swallow a pill if they're sick: we get a shot in the arm at home. But I have to admit I'm avoiding medicals altogether most of the time, especially painkillers. ------------- |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 01:25
Haha! Big Baby! Thats funny  But seriously, he asked a question, no need to be a smartass. I've forgone them most of the time, because swine flu isn't very big anymore in Australia, and only was for a month. And there was only a couple of cases reported in my state anyway. However, if I lived in the US, I wouldn't consider not getting the vaccine. I'd probably say other people have avoided getting the shot due to lack of belief in medicine. I.E, they've heard you can get sick from injections, or for some unexplainable reason, they don't think they're at any real risk of contracting the illness, so they forgo the proper prevention. Just a guess though ------------- 
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 01:34
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I lost respect for Billy Corgan long ago, but this just seals the deal: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/11/another_celebrity_anti-vaccine_moron_bil.php#c2058814 - http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/11/another_celebrity_anti-vaccine_moron_bil.php#c2058814 also http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/11/the_anti-vaccine_movement_cranks.php - http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/11/the_anti-vaccine_movement_cranks.php And my respect for Warren Ellis has grown. http://www.freakangels.com/?p=203&page=3 - http://www.freakangels.com/?p=203&page=3  |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 01:36
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No flu shot for me ... I'll take my chances.
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 01:39
It actually makes a lot of sense, considering that so far the lethality of this new strain of flu is not much higher than that of ordinary flu. Undoubtedly it's a tragedy for those who get really sick or really die from it, but last year many people died from ordinary flu without that much attention from the media. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 05:52
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Didn't know I'd spark this kind of controversy. By the way, my arm still hurts. After having the flu severely kick my ass for a few years in a row, I usually get one at the first opportunity.
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 06:48
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I think I never had the flu ... usually I catch a bad cold once or twice a year, but that's all.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 07:03
Achoo to you. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 09:56
It's not unfounded. When flu vaccines were rushed into production to treat the 1976 epidemic of swine flu there were untested. Turns out there seemed to be a nontrivial correlation with Guillain-Barre syndrome unexplainable by simple random distribution. The chance may be remote, but the remote chance at a lethal nerve disease may be more concerning that the chance of bed rest and fluids. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 10:14
Yet it apparently worked in 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1980., 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008. OK I did get type 2 in one of those years despite being vaccinated for type 1. So I'm not going to slam you for not choosing to get one, but come on. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 10:28
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The flu shots you were getting in those years would do nothing to and are not related to the 2009 H1N1 virus. I'm not telling people not to get a flu shot. No reason to get upset. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 11:40
I didn't get one, and I ended up getting the flu anyway. 
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 11:48
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My arm felt a little stiff afterwards, but it's nothing bad at all. -------------  Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 12:00
I'm not getting upset or anything, but your argument for not getting a vaccination is based on a mishap that happened one year. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 12:15
Agreed Kos, it's a shame. My SO is in public health, and can't believe the effect these people are having on otherwise rational people.
(And frankly, I think Corgan sucks without James and Darcy.) ------------- |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 12:17
Nothing you can say will convince him. Just like nothing you can say will sway a conspiracy theorist from believing we never went to the moon. Personally, I think the answer is simple; if somebody holds a philosophy that makes them feel above everybody else, they'll defend it to the death. So these folks can feel superior all the want for not getting those dreaded vaccines, while the rest of us 'fools' can rest easy knowing we're actually protected. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 12:27
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Oh, I think someone's just afraid of needles. I don't believe in making the shots mandatory, just be sure and wash you hands like you have OCD. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 12:37
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When you look at the amount of suffering childhood vaccines have prevented over the decades, compared to the relatively small number of extreme side effects, it is staggering that there is any debate about this.
Equally staggering that a generation of young parents have absorbed this nonsense and are acting on it.
Thankfully this flu has a very low kill rate. The real danger is this pervasive ignorance occuring once we run into a bug with a 20% kill rate. Then you are going to see preventable suffering on a mass scale. ------------- |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 12:44
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Considering I didn't get one...it didn't hurt a bit! I beat swine flu already |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 12:46
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I think my wife got inoculated the hard way. We're trying to get the kids vaccinated but the pediatrician has a hard time getting doses in, and they fly off the shelf as soon as they get them. |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 17:44
Might have to start a poll on whether anybody on ProgArchives has a sense of humor.
Why so serious Proggers?
 he called me an a****le ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 21:00
My arm's still a little sore... I swear this shot is a record setter for that.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Xanthous
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 21:29
Good point. I've never had a flu shot. Although I lead a very unhealthy lifestyle, I rarely ever get sick, and when I do get sick, I try to go to places with high population densities such as malls and airports.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 21:51
I understand your guys skepticism, but the odds of the vaccine doing more harm than good are negligible, especially compared to the harm the disease the vaccine prevents. I personally wouldn't have got it if I didn't have people force me to. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 22:46
Not really that's just a result of your reading of my argument. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 22:49
You're right nothing can convince me that people shouldn't be able to refuse vaccines based on their own cost-benefit analyses. Which is the only thing I'm arguing about. Maybe you should actually read my posts before you say nonsense and try to brand me as some crank science advocate. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 23:58
Was that what I was doing? I apologize. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 10 2009 at 05:42
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By the way, for those of you advocating against flu shots, you may be pleased to know that my arm is still freaking sore. It will be just my luck if this season a second mutation comes around and gets me.
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: November 10 2009 at 05:52
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How effective is this anyway? I tried to read more about it, but every source that I found so far says that there is no effective vaccine.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 10 2009 at 06:00
Could be your sources, I'm just saying To the skeptics out there, I think this one this year did actually mess with me, but at 44 I've had flu experiences that were much worse. So make your choice and best of luck. May you stay in good health... |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 10 2009 at 07:43
I can't imagine a credible source saying something like that. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: November 11 2009 at 01:24
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^ it's interesting how now two people replied to my question and didn't manage to quote any source that says that those vaccines are effective. BTW: I don't believe in homeopathy at all. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 11 2009 at 12:50
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If you dare in anyway seem to diminish the important, efficiency, or necessity of a flu shot around here you're a moronic practitioner of 17th century medical practices apparently. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 11 2009 at 12:55
Time for your blood letting. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: November 13 2009 at 20:57
| I already dealt with the flu. I caught it last Friday, had a horrible weekend (fell a little behind in my homework), and as of Wednesday am free of all symptoms. Even popped into the hospital for a doctor's opinion (supposedly may have been H1N1). They had flu shots at my school this week but was too sick to get one. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: November 13 2009 at 21:49
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I am sick as we speak... Don't know if it's h1n1 though ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: November 14 2009 at 01:46
Remember that even though you might feel fine, you should not do any sports for a few weeks - otherwise you risk complications - like inflammation of the heart. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: November 14 2009 at 04:36
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