are the flaming lips prog?
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Topic: are the flaming lips prog?
Posted By: nosky92
Subject: are the flaming lips prog?
Date Posted: November 30 2009 at 19:18
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:07
They're a great band, and experimental but IMo no they are not prog. Still, check em out if you can  ------------- 'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan |
Posted By: nosky92
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:16
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I think they one of those bands where it really depends on your definition of prog. They are taking known techniques and turning it into something new, and alot of their albums sound pretty proggy, im just not sure, I like them either way.
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:16
voted maybe - listenend to their current album 'Embryonic' once - I would say at least for this one it is ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 06:02
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What he said ^ ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: sampo
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 09:21
| Depends on how you define the term I suppose. Their songs don't really have the classic 70's prog formula but again, 21st century bands playing like the ones in the 70's (FK etc) aren't really progressive if you ask me. So in that sense I'd say Yes, they certainly hint at being progressive because of their sound that tends to be "out there". |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 09:36
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No, despite the proggy concepts that sometimes underpin their albums. A pretty good band, though - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots is a very enjoyable album with lots of squelchy analogue synth sounds. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 12:07
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Ugh, that thorny prog term comes up again. ;) It's not black and white (I commonly have a problem with deeming band/artists, and music, Prog or not Prog --such a dichotomy can be very problematic and what is Prog is open to interpretation). I won't vote since I probably haven't heard enough of the band's music, but I have listened to many tracks of the band's -- including music off the latest album. Based on what I've heard, I think that the band deserves serious consideration for the Crossover category. That said, even though based on what I've heard I would endorse it for PA inclusion, that doesn't mean that I think the band Prog-proper. I don't think of a great many bands/artists in PA to be Prog even if I would tag albums/ music of theirs as varieties of progressive rock. I wholeheartedly endorse many in PA (for the so-called Prog categories) that I would not describe to someone as Prog. In fact, I might describe ELP as a Prog band, but I wouldn't describe many artists/ bands as Prog even if they make progressive rock (I'd use other term first and with many I'd use various terms to describe their music. Also, many have made music that is considered Prog and music that is not considered Prog. Is Genesis a Prog band? Well the band made Prog music but also non-Prog music so to define it just as a Prog band does not take enough of the music into account. Basically in that case one might say it's Prog and not Prog, but generally for music under the "prog umbrella" I do not like to describe bands or artists as Prog so much as music as Prog or progressive rock. Can a person or band be Progressive Rock? I think they can make Prog music, but I don't think of the entities as Prog themselves. So, I don't think the Flaming Lips are Prog, but I think they made music that would be suitable for inclusion in a site devoted to Prog and music held under the progressive rock umbrella.  ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 14:42
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Logan's post was so baffling I will just nod mutely. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 14:43
Agreed. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Rivertree wrote:Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 14:48
Perhaps not, but they're playing music. Therefore, this poll is in the wrong section.
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 14:51
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Yesterday I've been listening to the previews on amazon for some of the songs on The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles and they sound interesting, I might download one of those albums to check them out. I remember I saw them covering The Who in a VH1The Who special and thought they were awfull, I can't remember wich song they played. Anyway, about being prog or not I haven't got a clue of course since I didn't heard any of their albums completely. -------------  In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 15:07
"A wink is as good as a nod". Call me Henry Obscureview. I added the winky because I knew it was baffling, and I hoped that the winky would be suitably ambivalent. The process began with sincere thinking of mine, but ended up being a for-my-fun exercise in writing. I could explain my thinking, but that would ruin the effect. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 15:10
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I just read through the whole thing, I get the gist of what you're saying.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 21:38
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No ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 01 2009 at 23:30
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I don't really care. I just know that they're incredible. The Soft Bulletin is one of the best albums ever made. The rest of their discography is very good too. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 08:34
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Not entirely, but I'm strict in defining what's prog.
Zaireeka
Yoshimi
Embryonic
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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 12:26
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They are an excellent band, but not prog in my opinion, more spacey psychedelic rock.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 12:46
Spacey psychedelic rock, of course, describes a lot of music in PA and is a description that would immediately pique my interest for possible PA inclusion. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 02 2009 at 13:07
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I bet if they were German they would get added to Krautrock
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Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: December 08 2009 at 15:01
| A conclusive...maybe |