Do you like this Cinema Show cover?
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Topic: Do you like this Cinema Show cover?
Posted By: Man Overboard
Subject: Do you like this Cinema Show cover?
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 21:42
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http://aaron.theaftershow.com/tfkbonus/Scanning%20The%20Greenhouse%20-%2009%20-%20Cinema%20Show.mp3 - The Flower Kings - The Cinema Show Seems pretty straightforward to me, but I like it anyway.  ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:01
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Not bad at all.
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:07
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God-awful. Frost (the Genesis band I fronted in the late 70s) did it much better than this. Even Paperlate (my most recent Genesis cover band) was better than this. The vocals are absolutely terrible; I cannot stand his voice. And where is all the great guitar in the first half? Indeed, where is any guitar in the first half? Also, they turn the bridge ("take a little trip back") into a quasi-pop song. Yuck! And almost all the great transitions - of which there are many, due to the length of the song - are either missing or totally twee. I never liked Flower Kings, and now I have another reason not to. This is not even as good as the Genesis covers by Transatlantic (of which Stolt is a member), which themselves are not "great," but at least much better than this! Peace. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:20
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If you want good Genesis covers, buy the album "The River of Constant Changes", this is the song list:
The bands are from Spain, England, Sweden but specially from Italy and mostly unknown except Galahad, Finisterre, Notturno Concertante and Moongarden. Even Living Forever by Moongarden sounds great and progressive despite being a We Can't Dance track. I sincerely reccomend it. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:21
| I have to agree with manni about the vocals, the first time he chirped out cinema show i almost fell out of my chiar laughing. Yeah its pretty lame. I couldnt even hum along to it, and I love that song. |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:41
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Yea he really didnt do a good job of emulating Gabriel.. But it was decent in its own right.
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 22:58
It was something they did to get on some Genesis tribute CD, a
last-minute thing... I'm not even certain that the band played on
it, it might've just been something Roine threw together over a
weekend. 
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 23:12
I think this was on The Fox Lies Down. I bought that tribute several years ago and sold it at the first opportunity. There are good tribute albums, but that ain't one of them.  A couple good covers, the rest stinks.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 23:19
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You're right Ben, this cover is from The Fox Lies Down, an album that really sucks, it's the worst Genesis Tribute I ever heard, especially Dancing with the Moonlit Knight by Darxtar and the terrible Your Own Special Way by John Wetton which is even worst than the already bad original version. The best one is Los Endos by Patrick Moraz & Ronnie Ciago, completely different but outstanding. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 23:35
Not bad. The begininning actually put me to sleep though. |
Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 00:18
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I am a TFK fan, then my opinion could not be taken seriously, but the biggest problem for me is the end of the music, when the sound fades away... I hate this form of ending a song... But, overall... I liked this song. And I have "The Fox Lies Down", and I agree with others guys, this tribute is very weak. But I like John Wetton's version of "Your Own Special Way". |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 01:40
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I just listened to it...
I LOVE the flower kings...a great band...BUT this is awful. They cannot play the song and seem to avoid all the parts that are hard to play! Descration to me, sorry guys. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 03:09
I believe that's just the edited version of the song. The full song is available on a Flowerkings fan club CD I own. I don't know what you guys look for in tribute songs, but for me a bad tribute song is when it's done as a carbon copy of the original. It's obvious this was only done as a bit of fun & shouldn't be taken seriously! |
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Posted By: Pylo
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:43
Totally agree, very BAD cover !
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 18:50
Didn't like it. There were some alright bits but I guess this is yet another example of how modern prog can't compete with '70s prog  
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 19:03
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It was respectful and wasn't bad......................but nothing I would ever feel compelled to listen to again. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 19:30
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I love it, but who gives a s**t what I think? Or anyone? Really though?...No I dont love it.....I like it and thats enough for me
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Posted By: MarxNutz
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 00:00
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Listening to it at this moment... Now this is coming from the biggest
Genesis fan, and I can be very picky at times! That having been
said, I would place TFK version of the song in the category of
"Nice Try"... They seem to have the desire to produce an atmosphere
somewhat like the original, but tweaked and expanded on. Kinda
reminds me of the Mastermind version of "The Endless Enigma"... |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 00:57
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'Twas well done enow, I trow -- if I was there, I would have had fun. These various snooty proghole nay-sayers are a trifle uptight, Man O.....\ Obviously PG and Genesis do it better, but 'tis a goodly tribute/tip o' the cap, methinks. It's only music, folks. Lighten up & smile -- I'll pay for the stiches.... ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: topographic2112
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 01:26
Doesn't look too bad of a list of songs, but doesn't any band on earth have the balls to do Supper's Ready or even The Musical Box? Come on now! Hell, I'd be happy sing them, for God's sake!!!! As for the CD, is it avaiable internationally or is it an import? ------------- "Rock is the medium of our generation." - Yes - "Release, Release" |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 03:22
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Topographic2112 wrote:
Anglagard did an outstanding cover of The Musical Box in Progfest 94 and a band from Israel called Eggroll did a good version of Supper's Ready (Starting in Willow's Farm), the music is outstanding but the vocals are not the best even when the vocalist is good, but not for this song in particular. Had the luck to see a video from Anglagard and a friend from Israel sent me the Eggroll DVD with excellent cover bersions of Thick as a Brick and Starless. About the Genesis Tribute, I bought it on http://www.Amazon.com - www.Amazon.com but you better find a cheaper place. Iván
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Posted By: topographic2112
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 03:28
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Cool, but I meant do a studio version of TMB or SR. Yeah, that tribute is a little expensive, but is it worth it? (meaning, is it good or not?) ------------- "Rock is the medium of our generation." - Yes - "Release, Release" |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 08:18
I'm with Peter on this. I find it easier just to enjoy it rather than critisize it! OOOhh they didnt do it right........aw its not as good in that part!...... arghhh they've changed it a bit! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 09:06
| I think it's just fine. Of course it's not going to match how well Genesis did it, but I like how it just sounds a little different. If it didn't, why waste time and listen to it if you could just listen to the real thing? |
Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 09:09
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"Straightforward" is an euphemism... ...i wonder why they did such a cover, it doesn't add anything to the original version. They didn't revisit it or re-interpretate it or desacrate it or anything else, they play it as it is in the original version, just like a group of Genesis fans would do in a garage sunday afternoon ! Anyway, thank you Man Overboard i had no idea there's people doing things like that... in a way you expanded my horizon
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 20:55
you forgot fonya - los endos/hairless heart, VERY new age oriented! the cinema show version is interesting, although not as quintessential and complex as the original one ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 23:25
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I believe you have a mistaken album or a later edition Greenback, because Fonya isn't in "The River of Constant Change", souble checked the list (The one above is from Amazon) with my album and Hairless Heart is perfrmed by Mysia. Maybe on another tribute, there are lots of. Iván -------------
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Posted By: MarxNutz
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 14:36
| Has anybody here ever seen the Canadian Genesis tribute band The Musical Box in concert? I've downloaded a snippet of their version of Supper's Ready from their website and it seems they got it real damn close to right! FYI, if you don't know about The Musical Box, their whole concept was to virtually recreate Genesis concerts from the early 70s, complete with costuming, backdrops, instrumentation, everything... I want them to come to Atlanta, Georgia, because I missed them the last time. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:43
ivan, the los endos/hairless heart played by fonya (chris fournier) is on the in flux album, and it is effectively not on the river of constant change list; and it is very impressive, if you like new age keyboards obviously! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |