toroddfuglesteg wrote:
NeoClassic music.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassicism_%28music%29 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassicism_(music) |
I'm pretty sure you've linked the wrong Neoclassicism Torodd - that's the Neoclassical Classical Music of the likes of Stravinsky, Prokofiev and Arron Copland.
You need either the Neoclassical New Age : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_%28New_Age - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_(New_Age ) of people like Harold Budd, Mike Oldfield and Rick Wakeman
Or the Neoclassical Dark Wave: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_%28Dark_Wave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_(Dark_Wave ) of bands like Dead Can Dance, Dargaard, Amber Asylum and Elend...
Though probably not Neoclassical Metal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_metal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_metal of Malmsteen and a lot of Symphonic/Power Metal bands who sometimes get hit with this tag.
Blackmore's Night probably fits in one of those somewhere.
toroddfuglesteg wrote:
What's the difference between NeoClassic and PA genres like Symphonic Prog and Zeuhl on the other side..... well, make that our side of the fence.
I am listening to Elend and Enid now. Elend is NeoClassical. Enid is Symphonic Prog. I am a loss to find much differences between them. Elend is probably more baroque and opera than Enid who is more keyboards and symphonic inclined. But that is not enough to erect a fence.
Is not the likes of Pink Mice, Ekseption, Trace, Clearlight Symphony and the three first ELP albums also NeoClassical (although I would label Pink Mice and Ekseption's output Airport Muzak) ?
I am not asking this question to get Elend voted into the PA family. I just want to know the difference between NeoClassic and Symphonic Prog because this question is nagging me and keeping me awake when I am driving around in my car.
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The essence of Symphonic Prog is that it is Rock with Classical aspirations and Jazz undertones, where as Neoclassical New Age dispenses with the Rock and often employs Jazz techniques with a 20th Century Classical music approach and Neoclassical Dark Wave is usually devoid of any Rock and Jazz structures and concentrates on the more ethereal qualities of Romantic, Symphonic and Baroque classical eras (often with Choir Invisible choral vocalisations) music with Electronic/Synthesiser Music as its foundation.
Aside from the degree of "Rock" present in the music, the other main difference is the degree of complexity in the composition, with Symphonic being more layered (counter-point etc) and with changing tempos and time sigs, Neoclassical New Age is generally less complex (though not necessarily), and any changes in tempoand/or key being less pronounced (dramatic) and Neoclassical Dark Wave is often the least complex of the three - creating a dense textures of sound where the changes are mor gradual.
The Enid and Elend fall at the extreme ends of their respective genres (and some 30 years apart), with The Enid being far more baroque/symphonic and far less rock than most of their contemporaries though they are undoubtedly coming from a Prog Rock "root". The Elend are one of the darker of the Dark Wave bands but still show their Gothic Rock "root" and on their later albums abandoned the synthesis of orchestral sounds for traditional acoustic chamber musical instruments.
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