Black Clouds & Silver Linings
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Topic: Black Clouds & Silver Linings
Posted By: jampa17
Subject: Black Clouds & Silver Linings
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 09:30
Strange and impressive album, it's still growing on me... I really believe it's their best effort since Six Degrees... so... vote for you favorite song of the album... this will be interesting...  ------------- |
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Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 09:33
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Aw, you beat me! I voted for The Shattered Fortress. I know it's made up of bits, but I love how it brings together the elements of the 12-Step Suite to a conclusion. Looking forward to hearing the whole suite performed together on this supposed live album coming up. |
Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 09:34
| The Count of Tuscany for me! |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 09:49
I did, right?
That song is the only one that doesn't move me... it have all the good parts of the others and is very rocking, which I love... but it doesn't move me... I'm between ANTR, Wither and TBOT... three marvelous songs... maybe I will be the only one who votes for the ballad... it's just so sad song... ------------- |
RoeDent wrote:Posted By: Camel666
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 09:52
| The count of tuscany. The rest of the album is quite unimpressive, IMHO. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 10:01
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I actually really like the entire album, but the lyrics to The Best of Times move me the most, so this one gets my vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 10:04
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After listening to Wither... I can't refuse to vote for that one... sometimes I get related to that lyrics and is just what I feel so... Wither for me... and I'll be alone... I know... ------------- |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 10:40
| A Nightmare To Remember. Although I don't like Portnoy's "growling" |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 10:42
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. . . and to round out the selections here's a vote for "A Rite of Passage". Yes, it's a bit poppy, but I rather enjoy it, it's the one that I find hanging out in my head on it's own accord.
------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 13:59
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I don't find most of the album to be impressive to tell the truth, especially the Count of Tuscany, which I find completely overrated. I voted the Shattered Fortress. -------------  |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 14:41
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The Count of Tuscany, followed closely by The Best of Times. -Jeff -------------  Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 16:01
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I simply cannot understand all the love that's been spewing forth for The Count of Tuscany since this album was released. It's got a great intro that enthralled me the first time I heard it, but the rest of it seems like a peicemeal load of excess. From this album, I vote for A Nightmare to Remember. Their best heavy song since The Glass Prison opened up 6DOIT. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 16:09
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A Nightmare to Remember. Second would be The Shattered Fortress, closely followed by The Count of Tuscany.
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 16:12
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I knew I was alone by Wither... but I expected that TCOT didn't take the lead this fast... A Nightmare to Remember is my second favorite and then Best of Times I guess... The Count do not excites me that much... ------------- |
Posted By: rpe9p
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 16:37
| The only excellent part of this album is the intro to the count of tuscany so I gave my vote to that song |
Posted By: Gamemako
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 16:44
I completely agree; I just don't think that means much. Nightmare gets my vote, though. Lyrics on the album are pretty much awful all around, so the silliness doesn't detract a whole lot.  ------------- Hail Eris! 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 22:52
| I guess I'll go with Count of Tuscany. |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 23:06
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It's a tough battle between Nightmare and Times, and I think the former wins despite some not so great parts. I too think this is their finest work since Six Degrees and there's no weak track on the album. But it could be much better if they gave their lyrics some more effort, especially in Tuscany, which can be pretty painful to listen to. It's a shame, because musically it's one of the highlights. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: theBox
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 01:24
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While I don't really like post IAW dream theater (Octavarium - the song, excepted), I think The Count of Tuscany had A LOT of potential (magical intro etc) but they really RUINED it for me, throwing in that goddamn long ambient section, where an instrumental freakout should be. I edited it out of course, but I keep regretting that they didn't go in a different direction for the middle part of the song. Oh well, can't please everyone I guess... Oh, and while we are at it, what's the deal with the lyrics? What were they (not) thinking??? ------------- |
Posted By: theBox
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 01:26
This, could have been my answer... ------------- |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 03:03
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For me it's another great album and I love it all.
Shattered Fortress was my favourite initially. My favourite part of the album is the awesome instrumental section of A Rite Of Passage, whilst the version of Count Of Tuscany when I saw them live on PN09 was truly spine chilling.
Can I make up my mind? Not really but I'll go with Shattered Fortress as it needs some help in the poll.
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 10:26
Wither is great  I loved the live performance of the track and according to http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2009/hovet-stockholm-sweden-33d7849d.html - selist.fm it was the first time Dream Theater performed the song live! |
Posted By: Paper Champion
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 12:38
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Tuscany for me. Wither is quite ridiculous, though heartfelt.
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 12:48
 Thanks for that...!!!"So I wither... and render myself helpless... I break down and let the story guide me..." I don't see nothing ridiculous on that but well... ------------- |
Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 13:29
I actually find the Count of Tuscany-lyrics appalling. It's basically a story about a count that frightened Petrucci while he visited Tuscany. If that's epic story telling then count me out! |
Posted By: Mladen_Serbia
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 13:32
| The Count. A Nightmare to remember is close, though... |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 15:40
Their best album start to finish in quite sometime.....I enjoy this album A LOT!! Play it all the time. I had to pick A Nightmare to Remember, since it is the first track and had me hooked from the second I heard the thunder. I too dislike Portnoy's growling...he needs to stop the vocals and stick to percussion. I think I would hate it if Neil Peart began to sing, plus his big nose would hit the mike all the time...LOL!!!!!!! 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 18:32
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This is the first Dream Theater album in which I liked absolutely none of the songs. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 27 2010 at 22:53
| I agree that the lyrics for these album are at the best cheesy, if not completly ridiculous. Many have complained about Count of Tuscany, but for me the absolute winner (or looser) on bad lyrics here is A Nightmare to Remember. I just try to ignore the lyrics when listening to this album, but with this song it's rather difficult. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 28 2010 at 15:13
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A Nightmare to Remember, the only good song on an otherwise forgetable album.
And I used to be a really big DT fan once upon a time. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: January 30 2010 at 21:24
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The album has actually improved a lot for me on repeated listenings. I didn't much like it at first, but now I think the tracks are quite good. The only one which doesn't really move me is The Shattered Fortress. Yeah, its a good trip down memory lane, but it is really just a hodge podge of the 12 step suite. Nothing new. A Nightmare to Remember or The Count of Tuscany is my favourite. I'll go for the Count. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: Malve87
Date Posted: January 31 2010 at 06:34
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The count of Tuscany, for sure.
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Posted By: Kyle McTreehugger
Date Posted: February 04 2010 at 18:52
------------- One Nation Under Prog! |
Posted By: NJCat_11
Date Posted: February 04 2010 at 18:55
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I went with The Shattered Fortress for all of its subtle allusions to other DT songs that I love.
------------- "We are Defenders of the Faith" - Rob Halford |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: February 05 2010 at 15:04
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I can't vote because I like all the songs and I think that it is the best album since Octavarium.
I think they did a great job with this album i even like it more Six degree, awaken, and falling into infinity.
It has to be one of tops 5:
1. metropolis Part2
2. Images and Words
3. Octavarium
4. Black Clouds
5. Train Of thought ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: peart_lee_lifeson
Date Posted: February 09 2010 at 00:20
| It's close between Count and Nightmare, but I voted Count. |
Posted By: Astrapto
Date Posted: February 09 2010 at 08:06
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People seriously voted for Wither? There were like three new parts in the entirety of The Shattered Fortress, an anticlimactic end and album filler. A Rite of Passage was lame, Jordan's solo was weird. A Nightmare To Remember is definitely quality, and The Best of Times was good when it strayed away from The Ministry of Lost Souls. But The Count of Tuscany is hands down the best. ------------- Jesus is real, God and man. GENERATION 41i: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and subtract 1 from the generation. Social experiment. |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: February 15 2010 at 08:22
I voted for one of the most touching songs of DT in recent years... you have a problem with that...??? ------------- |
Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: March 03 2010 at 14:03
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I submitted the very same poll not long after BC&SL came out and back then I voted for The Shattered Fortress, but now I think A Nightmare to Remember has just overtaken it. I can't believe A Rite of Passage has only got one vote, with that lovely chorus and great instrumental bit in the middle?! Oh, well ....
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: March 03 2010 at 18:40
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^ I was thinking the same thing, I can't believe that I was the only vote for "A Rite of Passage".
------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Camel666
Date Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:01
| It's always funny to see how different people end up liking very different things. I think A Nightmare to Remember is one of the biggest pieces of crap DT ever recorder. It turns out it's the second favourite song from the album. I also think that, other than the Count, the only other listenable song is A Rite of Passage, which has a very strong chorus and is great to sing along live. Well, according to this poll, A Rite of Passage is the worst song on Black Clouds. LOL. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:16
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This proves that you CAN churn out an 'epic' and a ton of prog fans will eat it up no matter what it's quality.
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Posted By: cyclysm748
Date Posted: March 04 2010 at 00:12
| Step into my car. |