The Advancement (1969 US ) Jazz-rock, psyche,blues
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Topic: The Advancement (1969 US ) Jazz-rock, psyche,bluesPosted By: Logan
Subject: The Advancement (1969 US ) Jazz-rock, psyche,blues
Date Posted: February 10 2010 at 22:35
Released just one album in 1969.
After collaborating with Gabor Szabo on such superb efforts as
More Sorcery and Dreams, bassist Louis Kabok and drummer Hal Gordon
further embraced jazz-rock fusion under the Advancement aegis, issuing
their sole LP in 1969. The opening "Juliet" establishes a dark, moody
atmosphere immediately bolstered by the intriguing "Painful Struggle,"
with its eerie vibes and Kabok's extended bass bridge. "Moorish Mode"
is Gordon's star turn, highlighted by an impressively restrained drum
break. But it's the most overtly rock-influenced cuts that make
Advancement worth seeking out, in particular "Fall Out," an
impressively heady melange of jazz, hard rock, and psychedelia.
- Jason Ankeny, All Music Guide
Formed 1969, Hollywood, CA, United States
Musicians:
Colin Bailey / Drums, Percussion A
Lynn Blessing / Vibes, Harmonica, Organ A
John De Rose / Classical Guitar A
Hal Gordon / Conga, Drums, Percussion A
A.A. Johnson / Guitar A
Lou Kabok / Bass A
Richard Thompson / Organ, Harpsichord A
Tracks:
1. Juliet.
2. Painful Struggle.
3. Stone Folk.
4. Grass Mass.
5. Sunflower.
6. She.
7. Moorish Mode.
8. Hobo Express.
9. Child At Play.
10. Fall Out.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Replies: Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: February 11 2010 at 08:06
Greg, a great suggestion as usual. 1969...the year I was born my personal issue aside...with old but graceful spice of psychedelia, a wondrous jazz rock outfit I've felt.
Interesting stuffs...sorry I do not know if they should be much fit for JRF or not (and consider they not be purely psychedelic progressive), though.
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: February 11 2010 at 11:01
Listened just few first samples, but I like this music. Plenty of Jazz-rock elements, but psyche and some rock as well.
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: February 11 2010 at 13:29
As for the genre, you are suggesting it yourself. Proto-prog for sure with the mix of genres, jazz (rock?) (Painful Struggle), US psyche (Fall Out) R&B (Stonefolk) and - unusual for a US band at this time - symphonic (Juliet and Sunflower). Unfortunately the rock component is limited (and rather miserable when present IMO).
Eclectic mix of genres and instruments. (It does however tend towards muzak, IMO.)
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 11 2010 at 16:09
Thanks for the responses. I'm liking muzaky music more and more.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 17 2010 at 18:13
Its not muzak (that's just a lame insult), not if you listen. Its relaxed, dreamy and pastoral jazz fusion. And a very early entry for this style, and I'm definitely all for.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 19 2010 at 11:54
I like a lot of music that is more muzaky than this (commonly of the lounge/ tropical variety). I do hope this early JRF album is accepted -- seems a no-brainer for PA to me, but we'll see.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 19 2010 at 13:24
Neat suggestion.
snobb wrote:
Listened just few first samples, but I like this music. Plenty of Jazz-rock elements, but psyche and some rock as well.
Of course there are rock elements if there are jazz-rock elements already there
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 19 2010 at 13:49
I understand Slava, there is rock music that is not
jazz-rock. For instance, "Fall Out" is blues-rock. It does have
Eclectic qualities. It's one that I definitely think should be added,
and I would rather it be considered an example of early prog than
"proto-prog" . I think the jazz-rock component significant, but
there's quite a "fusion" of styles.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2010 at 17:24
Any more opinions on this group?
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 12 2010 at 06:43
I've asked the JRF team to do a proper evaluation. I am thinking more of Proto Prog, but let's see what they have to say.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 14 2010 at 12:19
A belated thank you. I checked and it seems they did not think it worthy. I, personally, think this music would be a nice PA inclusion. I put it to the Proto Prog team to consider in February following Early Prog's suggestion, and considered it myself when suggesting it (though for me it's a kind of early progressive rock that I'd be happy to see in a progressive rock category) but there is no advancement from that front (of course the musical approach/ style is not enough to gain acceptance into Proto Prog). I'm now thinking of suggesting it to Eclectic (for its psych jazz rock, and symph qualities). And one could consider it for Crossover (has pop qualities).
Like much of the music I've been into, it has exotica qualities (I'd rather like to see a Prog Exotica category and a Prog Beat one). It does sound dated (rooted in a 60's sound found in various soundtracks from the time)....
An interesting case, I would think (and could relate to many other possible additions).
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: September 12 2010 at 13:38