Jordan Rudess or Kevin Moore
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Topic: Jordan Rudess or Kevin Moore
Posted By: Nilsen
Subject: Jordan Rudess or Kevin Moore
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 15:06
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Just a interesting thought.. After what I've heard, I guess most of you will answer Kevin Moore. I will choose JR, because of fantastic out-of-the-box creativity, feeling and crazy technicality. Kevin still put down some fantastic melodies too, but I like Jordan's style more. |
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 15:13
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I'll vote for the same I've voted in the previous same polls: Kevin Moore
Definitely a more creative player in my opinion: he can build-up fantastic atmospheres, he has feel and he defintlely plays some fine piano and synths.
It's like if Kevin Moore was the Rick Wright of Dream Theater. Yeah I know, very different bands, but I think the "role" of these keyboardists were pretty the same and they were done perfectly, neither needed an extremely talented keyboard player in the sense of playing.
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 15:14
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Kevin Moore... just listen to Only A Matter of Time... Rudess can't match with that... he is better in skill and technique, but he is not creative... he just uses weird noises and fast soloing... but, his solo work is very interesting... Glad to have you here Nilsen... ------------- |
Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 15:16
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Rudess indeed has more technical ability and can be capable of creating fantastic melodies that really suit DT's style. His contribution to Metroplis part II is undeniable, and I can' t think of a better keyboardist that can outdo him. Moore is a master of sound and atmosphere. His short-lived presence at DT was outstanding, being the most important member for the soul in the group. They were never the same after him. And even now, he continues to please my ears with the OSI project and his solo works. He is THE man.  ------------- "Tis your birth and faith that wrong you...not I." |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 15:29
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I much, much, much prefer Rudess, despite not liking his particular style at times.
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Posted By: Nilsen
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 15:35
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This was just as I expected ^^
I preferred Kevin for not a long time ago as well (can't blame him, he did put down the melodies to learning to live wich is one of my favourite "keyboard songs") But lately I've watched JR's solo work, and his piano diary improvisations on youtube, and he just blew me away with perfect musical melodies that I haven't seen anyone that even come close to.. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 15:59
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I much prefer Jordan over Kevin. I actually think if DT goes back to their early playing style incorporating more jazzy influences, melodic sense that Jordan is the better fit still. As well as being the best fit for the current metal flavor.... -------------   
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 16:14
This really surprise me... I didn't knew that Rob... I thought you liked more the old school DT... and for Nielse, I thought you refer to their aport to DT, because in their solo work, Rudess really shines... now, I won't pick up him either as O.S.I. and Chroma Key are two of my favorites projects of all time... ------------- |
Epignosis wrote:Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 16:27
Really?   I rated Images & Words a two, while Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence are my five star Dream Theater albums. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 17:48
I base my vote solely on the excellent work he did on Awake. 
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 17:52
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KM is way more enjoyable for me, the only two DT albums which I really love (I&W and Awake) and his albums as Chroma Key are all top notch prog, great stuff. Lovely player ------------- 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 09 2010 at 22:58
| This poll has already been done, and I don't remember what I voted for, nor do I know whom to vote for now. They both have their stron points and not so strong ones. However, I do feel, Rudess fits the band better, he's got a more similar way of playing to the other band members than Moore did. Still, that's at the same time the strong point for Rudess as it is for Moore, because on the other hand, the later complemented the sound of Dream Theater better, he kind of slowed the pace where the rest just wanted to go faster, and gave some really beautiful melodies and soundscapes. So, I guess the best thing to do is to enjoy whatever they both have to offer to the band. |
Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: April 10 2010 at 08:02
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My opinion or feeling is that Rudess's work on Scenes from a Memory is rather annyoying while on Six Degrees is great... actually only album with DT where he really impresses me. I prefer Kevin Moore in general. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trevorrabin/?chartstyle=basic10" rel="nofollow">  <a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow" |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 10 2010 at 09:22
I could not have said it better. Not much of a fan of Rudess but Moore is one of my all time favourites. I like the Rick Wright comparisons too,it's all about atmosphere. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: MysticDreams2331
Date Posted: April 10 2010 at 11:39
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I think that it depends on what you are aiming at with this poll. I think Jordan Rudess is a much better player and musician and I couldn't imagine not having some of the parts he has added to DT songs. However, I think Kevin Moore was much more of an appropriate player for the band as I feel they are a very guitar drum bass driven band, and the keyboards were mostly needed to bring atmosphere, establish a center to some of the abstract parts of songs, and for the occasional added harmonies for Petrucci's leads. Rudess is a very in your face player, and why not when your that good
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Posted By: anfega
Date Posted: April 11 2010 at 19:45
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jordan is a best keyboard player!!! and kevin was very important in the DT creative equation in thi first years of the band
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Posted By: EliasMisael
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 22:09
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Kevin Moore maybe is not as bombastic as Jordan Rudess. But he was the soul of DT. Period. ------------- "...Basic temperamental filters on our eyes Alter our perceptions Lenses polarize..." |
Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 00:30
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as the biggest Dream Theater fan in my continent, I must vote for Jordan Rudess. I wonder who Kevin Moore is.
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Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 16:33
SRSLY this
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 20:44
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I had Kevin Moore for dinner.
Anyways, Rudess. |
Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 04:20
| rudess is a great keyboardist so my vote to him |
Posted By: JonteJH
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 09:53
| Rudess is mo[ o ]re...Moore is less |
Posted By: kole
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 11:19
| Rudess is far greater keyboardist than Moore. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 11:35
| Moore |
Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 12:22
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Rudess (when he had long hair)...
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Posted By: GermanZERO
Date Posted: August 14 2011 at 20:00
| Kevin Moore |
Posted By: jav1919
Date Posted: August 14 2011 at 20:19
I went with Rudess because technically speaking he is the best, but Kevin is pretty good too 
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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 01:43
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Technical ability may take you far, but at the end of the day, songwriting trumps all. Kevin Moore obviously. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 01:48
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Rudess. Kevin's great, but I don't know if I'd enjoy modern DT with Kevin in the band, if they went in the same direction.
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Posted By: jav1919
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 15:29
Jordan is a pretty good songwriter too
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Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: August 15 2011 at 16:39
| Kevin Moore |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 07:23
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Kevin Moore by far. Moore put in some nice atmosphere in his playing with DT and his solos were great (unlike JR who often seems to solo for the sake of it). Moore is also great in his project Chroma Key and his collaboration with Jim Matheos (two FW albums and OSI). Never found JR's solo work that exciting or interesting.
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 10:40
| Jordan Rudess - The man is an absolute monster on keyboards. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 14:09
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JR ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 14:51
a monster indeed, an ugly one, just listen to DT's last offering.
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 15:41
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Rudess is much better ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 16:41
at what?
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 17:03
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Kevin's keyboard playing on When Dream and Day Unite was perfect. Those punchy, economical textures and bright sounds cut through the mix. Just perfect. Kevin kept it going for the next two albums, I&W and Awake. He's the first guy I heard (since I didn't hear enough of Jens Johansson till later) that made full-time keyboards work in the context of metal. Well, actually, no. The first guy I heard do WAS indeed Rudess, on Vinnie Moore's 1988 album Time Odyssey. "Message in a Dream," in particular. But that's an instrumental album. There are no vocals to work around. Rudess' sound choices have been suspect for many years. I like the RPM stuff. Rudess is the better technical player, I guess, but his lines often come off as notes caught in a vortex, whereas Moore's sound deliberate, varied and tasteful. YMMV, of course.
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 17:55
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Judess is a superior player technically, but he gets far too twiddley and obscure at times - positively vaudeville on occasions with his keyboard tones! Moore gets my vote. I would say 'less is Moore ' perhaps...but that's taking puns to a wholly unacceptable level! ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: July 12 2018 at 09:28
At cleaning windows and preparing and serving cold dishes, of course. Tastes are personal and I happen to like technical and skilled players. Rudess is a lesser Emerson, but I prefer that to safe landscape music. He's a bit clusterf#cky at times, I give you that...but, on the other hand, Moore lacks punch. Hitting the right notes (like Banks, for instance) is not the same as missing them. Musicians like Moore or the late Wright strike me as artists who deliver rough sketches of something that could have been, without the necessary polish and detail. If I wanted concise and direct, I'd listen to Ariana Grande and read children's books. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 15 2018 at 02:48
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^ I wrote quite a bit and did not save anything but craptcha killed it, I don't know why it did not go, it's usually some emoticon that ruins things. The only thing that I agree with is that JR is "clusterf*cky" (interesting word that sums up pretty well what JR is doing sometimes, especially on ADTOE and The Astonishing). I remember you being one of the users here that enjoyed DT's last album, so I'll stop here. Tastes are personal indeed... :)
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: July 15 2018 at 20:26
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Indeed, Cristi, I quite liked it. As a matter of fact I think it's their best record with Mangini on drums and a "top 5" DT record: grandiose, operetic and blatantly over the top. James LaBrie SHINES, Mangini and Myung are precise, Petrucci is not throwing random metal solos 24/7 and Rudess brings quality and ambiance without getting too crazy. Great experiment all around...they even played a bit of tango (Lord Nafaryus)! Too bad you didn't like it. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 10:42
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Very hard to choose between the two. If a gun to my head, I guess I'd go with Moore based on Images and Words far away being my favorite DT album, and assuming Kevin had something to do with that. And jftr, I'll add that Derek Sherinian is no slouch either.
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