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Topic: Tartar Lamb 2 - 'Kickstarter' donation offers!
Posted By: progkidjoel
Subject: Tartar Lamb 2 - 'Kickstarter' donation offers!
Date Posted: April 26 2010 at 21:11
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Tartar Lamb, a collaboration between Toby Driver and Mia Matsumiya (both from Kayo Dot) has a semi-planned release for their next album under the Tartar Lamb. Like Maudlin Of The Well's 2009 masterpiece, Part The Second, Toby and Mia are planning for this one to be funded by the fans, for the fans - although this time the donation and reward service has been polished to make the offer much more enticing...
About this project Tartar Lamb 2 is like the sound of a whale swallowing a comet, spouting a cloud of ice from its blowhole, and the shards raining down and slicing up your face. This piece is a sequel of sorts to the acclaimed 2006 Tartar Lamb debut 60 Metonymies, the modern electroacoustic quartet that took the world by storm. This time around, Toby Driver has fashioned himself a modern winds epic of immense proportions that features members of Kayo Dot plus clarinet deconstructionist Jeremiah Cymerman. The Plan: In 2009 we were able to record and self-release maudlin of the Well - Part the Second thanks to an experimental fan-funded donation drive. We had such a positive experience with this that we've decided to try it again, this time using Kickstarter.com as a way to manage the donation process and to provide backers with some really great rewards for their support. Our goal is to raise $6,000 dollars to cover studio costs, travel, a modestly sized vinyl pressing of the finished album, and the processing/shipping of your sweet, sweet rewards. We'll then create a Tartar Lamb 2 website similar to Part the Second where TL2 will be available to all for free streaming. We'll also use this site to sell digital downloads, LPs, t-shirts, and other TL2 related media. Music like ours can be a tricky thing to bring to the marketplace, and a donation drive such as this is a great way to secure the level of financial backing we believe this project calls for. We're really proud of this piece and want to give it all the attention and effort it deserves! And of course, if we can't meet our goal, then it's back to the drawing board, so please give this project your thoughtful consideration! We can't make it happen without your support! The Rewards: One of the more exciting things about this venture is the opportunity to get some really cool things into the hands of some really cool people. Everyone who donates will get access to a high quality digital download of Tartar Lamb 2. We'll also be producing a limited edition hand made CD-r of the album, available exclusively as a part of the donation drive. If you've been exposed to the Kayo Dot - Live in Bonn CD-r, then you know how seriously we take our CD-rs. And of course what we're really excited about is the vinyl pressing of Tartar Lamb 2. We plan on devoting a lot of time and energy into the creation of a truly beautiful and unique artifact for this. You will not be disappointed! We're also planning a homemade DVD of the Tartar Lamb 2 recording process, featuring behind the scenes footage, live recordings, and all sorts of secrets! We're really excited about this! There's also some great things in the works for larger donations including invitations to a VIP only NYC area release/listening party, incredible CD packages featuring TL2 collaborators, free admission to future shows, and some amazing original album artwork created by Toby Driver! See the side column for all the details! Jeremiah may even cook you a lamb dinner! Also: Backing this project will give you access to some really awesome backer only updates over the next few months. We plan on posting a lot of great music, art, and information about album progress. Should be cool! (From http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tdriver/tartar-lamb-2 - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tdriver/tartar-lamb-2 ) The specific tiers of donation and reward are as follows: Pledge $7 or more A high quality digital copy of the completed Tartar Lamb 2 record. Also: our undying appreciation and gratitude for your support of new music! Pledge $20 or more A CDR copy of Tartar Lamb 2 in a signed, customized sleeve. (Don't worry, it's gonna be classy, honest) A high quality digital download. TL Sticker. And your name listed on the "Thank You" section of the TL2 streaming website. Pledge $35 or more A signed copy of the Tartar Lamb 2 LP on delicious vinyl. The CDR copy of Tartar Lamb 2 in a signed, customized sleeve. TL Sticker. Your name listed on the "Thank You" section of the TL2 streaming website. Pledge $50 or more A signed copy of the Tartar Lamb 2 Vinyl LP. A stunningly beautiful and figure-enhancing Tartar Lamb t-shirt featuring art by Toby Driver. The signed TL2 CDR. TL Sticker. Your name listed on the "Thank You" section of the TL2 streaming website. Pledge $75 or more A signed copy of the Tartar Lamb 2 Vinyl LP. The stunningly beautiful Tartar Lamb t-shirt. A special homemade behind the scenes DVD of the TL2 recording process. The signed TL2 CDR. TL Sticker. Your name listed on the "Thank You" section of the TL2 streaming website. Pledge $100 or more Things are heating up. You'll get the signed copy of the Tartar Lamb 2 LP. The stunningly beautiful Tartar Lamb t-shirt. The homemade DVD. The TL2 CDR. TL Sticker. And your name listed on the "Thank You" section of the website. Then come more CDs: A copy of Tartar Lamb "60 Metonymies". Jeremiah Cymerman's 2007 release "Big Exploitation". And Tim Byrnes' underground hit "Hazel-Rah" CDR. Whoa. You'll also get a special invite to a VIP only listening party of the Tartar Lamb 2 record when it's released. It'll be somewhere in NYC. It'll be a whole lot of fun. Pledge $250 or more You are awesome. You're getting the signed LP. The beautiful t-shirt. The DVD. The CDR. Stickers. The works. Then EVEN MORE CDs: Tartar Lamb "60 Metonymies". Kayo Dot's "Blue Lambency Downward". Jeremiah Cymerman's "Big Exploitation". And Tim Byrnes' "Hazel-Rah" CDR. Insane. And don't forget about the VIP only listening party. You're invited too. We're also putting you on the guest list to any Tartar Lamb or Kayo Dot show of your choice, just give us a heads up. You'll also be listed in a "Special Thanks" section on all physical copies of Tartar Lamb 2 in addition to the streaming site. Pledge $500 or more Incredible. The signed LP. T-shirt. DVD. CDR. Stickers. You'll even be listed in a "Special Thanks" section on all physical copies of Tartar Lamb 2 as well as on the streaming site. We're going to send you a ton of CDs: Tartar Lamb "60 Metonymies". Kayo Dot's "Blue Lambency Downward" & "Choirs of the Eye". Jeremiah Cymerman's "Big Exploitation" & "In Memory of the Labyrinth System". Tim Byrnes' "Hazel-Rah" CDR & The Friendly Bears' classic "On Oceans, Light, and Sleep". A million dollar value. You're coming to the VIP listening party. And you're on the guest list to the show of your choice. Seriously. Also: and this is huge, you're going to get a piece of original Toby Driver artwork used in the TL2 LP. Pledge $1,000 or more You're getting everything we can possibly give you. The signed LP. T-shirt. DVD. CDR. Stickers. You'll be credited prominently as a "Patron" on all physical copies of Tartar Lamb 2 as well as on the streaming site. We're going to send you a copy of pretty much every CD any of us has ever been a part of. You're a guest of honor to the VIP listening party in NY. You've got a "golden ticket" to any show that any of us will ever be a part of for the rest of time. You're also getting your choice of original album artwork. And if you can make it to NYC, Jeremiah will make us all a delicious dinner of "roasted lamb shoulder rubbed with rosemary, garlic & anchovies in a fig reduction and root vegetable puree." Seriously, let's hang. Pledge $1,000 or more SOLD OUT You're getting everything listed above at the $1000 level, with the added knowledge that you are the one getting the original Tartar Lamb 2 LP cover artwork. There can be only one! As Toby said, if the goal isn't met, the project won't be released, so go forth and donate! 
-Joel Forgot to mention, here's the link to donate: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tdriver/tartar-lamb-2 - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tdriver/tartar-lamb-2 Its worth pointing out that you will not be charged immediately, you will only be charged, and on the set date, if the asked amount is met. GOAL REACHED, WITH: $6,916 from 116 Backers ------------- 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 00:28
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I'll kick in $7, I don't care enough about the signed CDR to spend $20 on a CD that based on the sample I will probably only find pretty good--and I've sort of committed myself to not buying CDRs. You'd think that with pre-donations they could spring for real CDs (even the Peter Brotzmann tour only self-released album I got was a real CD, but that was also limited to 525 copies), but maybe that's too ambitious and they're afraid of the whole thing failing if they tried that. But good lord, Kickstarter and Amazon could not make the process of signing up any more annoying. I prefer Amazon over Paypal, but Paypal has never errored out on me so many times! ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 00:42
| I'm very tempted to kick in $20, so I probably will. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 13:04
Due to set up costs, pressing plants wont do glass-pressed CD's unless they have a minimum run of 500 (some plants set the minimum at 1000) so they will burn CDr's instead. Will donate for this, Movement 2 on the KD CDr was brilliant. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Henry Plainview wrote:Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 20:36
Kayo Dot make beautiful CDr's as well, the live bonus with the Coyote preorder was packaged more nicely than albums I've payed 20 dollars for. -------------
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 05:39
Donated  ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 06:20
| Now, when I get my hands on 20 or 35 dollars... |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 06:28
Mine wasnt, it came in a blank carbored sleeve with #078 written on it and a red slip over it with the track list, musician names and were an when it was recorded. Not that I was at all bothered about that, its the disc I want, not the packaging. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: April 28 2010 at 06:41
So did I, but it looks very nice considering it was free. Even bands like Porcupine Tree who have a considerable bigger budget usually just ship CDr's in a clear, unmarked sleeve. -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 03:21
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Halfway up now! I'll be doing a live count in the OP as well. -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 05 2010 at 00:48
PT ships blank CDRs because Steven is on a major label, he can afford not caring. ;-) ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 23:20
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When I have the energy for it, I'll donate 110 dollars...
------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 23:21
Loistavaa! Onko soveliasta udella paljolla osallistuit? ------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 00:06
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They've gotten less than $200 in the past 10 days, I'm not sure they're going to make it... ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 02:32
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 24 2010 at 06:16
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Just donated $100 -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 03:28
Wow, they're got a lot more over the past few weeks. Looks like they might make it after all  -------------
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Posted By: Dologan
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 07:56
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The are very close now, but have a bit more than 300 bucks to go in a bit more than a week. Please consider donating if you haven't already or at least spread the word to those who might be willing to! |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 08 2010 at 08:03
I would have loved to contribute, but the recent unfortunate events I've been through make it impossible for me 
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 05:42
I'm so tempted to toss in another 20$ to help them on the way, have no money left though  Another 200$ posted since I last edited the OP, and now finally up to 100 backers. So close! -------------
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 10:12
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Sounds interesting, I wish I could donate.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 17:56
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY, they made it. Also, Matt, it'll be available for free streaming for everyone once it's all prepared. -------------
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 18:31
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Just donated even though they already made it... felt real good  ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 18:41
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Awesome, I can't wait to get all the stuff! -------------
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 20:34
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Yeah, indeed! Do you know when they are actually going to release all the stuff? I know the funding opportunity ends the 18th but I imagine then they actually have to set all of it up? Or maybe not? ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 20:50
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Not sure, I'm guessing it'll be a few months before we get all of the stuff though. They still haven't recorded it, although the whole Tartar Lamb 2 movement is written. The CDR's and other CD's will probably come fairly fast, but the studio DVD and the LP's will probably take a bit longer to get pressed and sent out. -------------
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Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 03:56
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Nice! It was looking grim there for a bit... I guess I'm out $20 haha.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 17 2010 at 17:34
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Here's a link to a live performance of Tartar Lamb 2, Movement Two: http://www.kayodot.net/tl2-2.mp3 - http://www.kayodot.net/tl2-2.mp3
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 28 2010 at 19:02
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Toby has just posted on last.fm saying they'll be going into studio on the 25th of September.
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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: August 28 2010 at 21:18
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Awesome, thanks for the update. -------------  
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 16:44
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Anyone know how this is coming along? I can't find any updates past the one on the Kayo Dot site where he says it was funded and they were going into the studio... ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 07:00
The recent update on the KD website says they intend to sell the vinyl at the KD shows in Europe early next year, I'm guessing they're busy recording it and will let everybody know the details when they're done. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 08:11
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Cool, thanks. ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 08:16
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:21
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http://soundcloud.com/tobydriver/tartar-lamb-ii-polyimage-of-known-exits-2nd-movement-rough-mix" rel="nofollow - http://soundcloud.com/tobydriver/tartar-lamb-ii-polyimage-of-known-exits-2nd-movement-rough-mix |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 17:57
New project update from Toby:FRIDAY: Tartar Lamb II Listening Party & Concert
By Toby Driver
This Friday (January 14th) we'll be spinning (and then performing) our just-finished album, POLYIMAGE OF KNOWN EXITS at the Douglass Street Music Collective in Gowanus, Brooklyn. This event is FREE to all of our qualifying Kickstarter.com contributors. There wil also be a fantastic solo performance by Jeremiah Cymerman. Sure to be amazing. 6pm - album & refreshments, toast by Tim to kickstarter peeps (not to be missed!!!) 7pm - Jeremiah Cymerman solo 8pm - TL performs -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 18:27
sounds promising
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 18:35
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Clearly the band recommends drug use. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 18:36
| ya but when can we buy it, Joerl? |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 18:40
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I'm contemplating taking a train to NYC and waiting for Toby outside his apartment. When he shows up I'll ask him if he wants to be best friends. Then when he says yes I can go to the listening party and then I assume he'll have me join the band as their mathematician. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 18:52
| Anyone pony up the grand? Love the descriptions at those high donation levels. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 19:22
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Somebody did. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: January 12 2011 at 01:49
It could take a while, actually. The release will be similar to Part the Second, and it will be released online for free. I would imagine they'll have the website up in a couple of weeks. PtS was just recently released on vinyl, so there's a possibility that you can some day buy TL2. ------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 19:59
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This morning Kickstarter sent out an email asking for extra info before they can start shipping (confirming addresses and whatnot, names to put on the Thank you list) so make sure that you check your emails if you donated and fill out the survey! It only takes a minute or two. Also, an AWESOME interview with Toby! http://vimeo.com/18797493" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/18797493 There's also some great live clips in there. Also, from on top of the survey page: The record is done! We'll be sending out digital copies shortly, with physical copies and t-shirts on schedule to be sent out sometime after we get back from tour. So with any luck we'll be able to listen to Tartar Lamb II quite soon -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 20:04
| Wow, I'm looking forward to watching that first thing in the morning. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 19:25
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...And it's live people! http://www.kayodot.net/tartarlamb/" rel="nofollow - http://www.kayodot.net/tartarlamb/  With a stream for anyone/everyone + options to buy the MP3's (or FLAC), and to preorder the shirt and/or vinyl, to be ready in April. -------------
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 19:52
YES!!!  So excited to listen to this.------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 19:56
It's fantastic so far, absolutely awesome. Very different to the first Tartar Lamb/nothing like what I was expecting. -------------
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 20:05
I have to agree, this is beautiful. I haven't heard the first Tartar Lamb, but I should be getting the CD when the rest of the rewards go out so I look forward to that as well! ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 22:51
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OMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 07:53
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Sounds good ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 12:22
| I'm getting sucked into the Toby Driver fanclub. |
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 14:23
It's an unhealthy obsession you will unfortunately never be able to kick. I'm very impressed with TLII. I like how it manages to build an atmosphere that is both soothing and somewhat unsettling at the same time. Very cool dynamics. -------------
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 17:12
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Not bad at all. Certainly more enjoyable as a whole then other recent Driver works IMHO. Part II is perhaps my favorite Driver composition yet.
Main criticism...needed more percussion (mostly to vary the mood/aesthetics). Great sax work throughout though. If it ever becomes available on CD I'll probably buy it. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 17:14
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 25 2011 at 14:05
I do say.
 Of course I say everything needs more percussion.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 06 2011 at 17:07
Bump with some news from Toby (posted on the Kayo Dot last.fm page) about the shipping of the items:
So hopefully they'll start posting some of the stuff out in a few weeks http://www.last.fm/music/Kayo+Dot" rel="nofollow - http://www.last.fm/music/Kayo+Dot
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 26 2011 at 20:21
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From Toby's twitter, it is happening http://lockerz.com/s/102519180" rel="nofollow - VINYL ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 02:34
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Any update on this? ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 18:29
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I am starting to wonder as well. -------------  |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 13:18
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Wonder no more! Packages start going out starting next week, first US and then overseas. So said the Kickstarter update I just had. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 21:43
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Where did you hear this? (does Canada count as US?) ------------- |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 25 2011 at 01:40
 Here's the entire email: Friends! Dan here! The long wait is almost over. Everything is compiled at my house and we're going to start packaging your goods and sending them out in waves starting next week! Thanks once again for your patience with how long this project has taken, I think you'll all be super pleased with the end products. We're really happy about them! A couple notes: If you've moved recently, please send an updated address to [email protected]. A bunch have you have already sent us address updates and we've been keeping a running list, so you should be set. We're going to start with domestic packages first, then the overseas ones. All the CDr's are hand burned. (as in we burned them on our laptops as god intended) So if you get a bad one let us know and we'll send you a replacement. Cool! Watch the post in a few weeks! And thanks again! ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: September 25 2011 at 20:53
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Well I got it today in my inbox. Weird. I wish I had a record player in my car. ------------- |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: October 14 2011 at 06:04
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Waiting... Always the waiting.
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